Lada Laika Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 This is the same kind of Twitter faux-woke “appropriation” shit that made RAMZi toss out her upcoming album and basically go into hiding for a year. Jesus fucking christ, a white person using a goddamn tabla or conga in their music is not appropriation. You’re basically saying that no one should use any sound that their biological ancestors didn’t singlehandedly create. That’s so xenophobic and insular that it almost pisses me off more than the alt-right. Countdown till when Four Tet gets cancelled for Morning/Evening... sidewinder and dingformung 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Lada Laika's signature Hide all signatures https://blacklivesmatters.carrd.co/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/2/#findComment-2749764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerwolf Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 Just read the RA on this. Wow. Nina K seems like a lovely lady and her hair rather lovely too. Makes my blood boil utter nonsense like this. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/2/#findComment-2749767 Share on other sites More sharing options...
markedone Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 On 10/30/2019 at 4:35 AM, Lada Laika said: This is the same kind of Twitter faux-woke “appropriation” shit that made RAMZi toss out her upcoming album and basically go into hiding for a year. Jesus fucking christ, a white person using a goddamn tabla or conga in their music is not appropriation. You’re basically saying that no one should use any sound that their biological ancestors didn’t singlehandedly create. That’s so xenophobic and insular that it almost pisses me off more than the alt-right. Countdown till when Four Tet gets cancelled for Morning/Evening... Expand But Kieren is a "POC" Yeah the Jumanji one was so wack, it just took one dude to overreact. In case you havent heard it, the whole album has showed up on certain channels, but all around a bummer for the artists who surely put lots of love into it. This thread title is such clickbait though, im pretty sure Nina will get through this just fine. Its hardly as irredeemable an offense as some others.. she could probably just apologize tomorrow and it would blow over and she'll keep getting mad huge bookings. If not she'll still get booked by aphex. Lada Laika 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/2/#findComment-2749773 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr_Nova Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 She absolutely shouldn't apologize. Lada Laika 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Zephyr_Nova's signature Hide all signatures http://zephyrnova.bandcamp.com/releases My noise: http://cthulhudetonator.bandcamp.com My band: http://theskylitup.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/2/#findComment-2749774 Share on other sites More sharing options...
o00o Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 So she does celebrity gossip as promotion now? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide o00o's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/2/#findComment-2749775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignatius Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 On 10/30/2019 at 6:17 AM, o00o said: So she does celebrity gossip as promotion now?Seems like most promo is celebrity gossip though. Social media is a constant “me” show. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ignatius's signature Hide all signatures Releases Sample LIbraries instagram Cascade Data Mastodon Reveal hidden contents "All I know about you is what a knock off Autechre lite artist you are, how many you put out?> same with your fucking mindset, vanilla...........goodnight." - arti Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/2/#findComment-2749781 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ivan Ooze Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 who member the time Billy idol got CANCELLED IDEM 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Ivan Ooze's signature Hide all signatures On 2/26/2015 at 9:39 AM, RupturedSouls said: This drugs makes me feel like I'm on song! On 9/1/2014 at 5:50 PM, StephenG said: I'm hardly a closed minded nun. Remember, I'm on a fucking IDM forum.... an IDM forum.. Think about that for a second before claiming people are closed minded nuns. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/2/#findComment-2749782 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodhidharma Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 "tired of these white girls in the techno scene, disrespectful" switch that to black and anyone saying that would get harangued...needs to stop Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/2/#findComment-2749783 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ARPA Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 On 10/30/2019 at 6:17 AM, Zephyr_Nova said: She absolutely shouldn't apologize. Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents Reveal hidden contents dingformung 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ARPA's signature Hide all signatures no-digital release is a fuggin' sh*t idea Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/2/#findComment-2749784 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted October 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 On 10/30/2019 at 6:06 AM, markedone said: But Kieren is a "POC" Yeah the Jumanji one was so wack, it just took one dude to overreact. In case you havent heard it, the whole album has showed up on certain channels, but all around a bummer for the artists who surely put lots of love into it. This thread title is such clickbait though, im pretty sure Nina will get through this just fine. Its hardly as irredeemable an offense as some others.. she could probably just apologize tomorrow and it would blow over and she'll keep getting mad huge bookings. If not she'll still get booked by aphex. Expand one must fight clickbait with clickbait Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/2/#findComment-2749808 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 On 10/30/2019 at 4:35 AM, Lada Laika said: Four Tet gets cancelled for Morning/Evening Hopefully this never happens. This is his best release imo, 'Morning Side' sounded otherworldly the first time I heard it and on subsequent listens. In an ideal world, artists would get canceled for releasing shit tracks and nothing else. But they would be able to redeem themselves by coming back strong wit da funk Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/2/#findComment-2749809 Share on other sites More sharing options...
d-a-m-o Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) On 10/30/2019 at 6:17 AM, Zephyr_Nova said: She absolutely shouldn't apologize. This. Also, big fucking lol at Rrose, virtue signalling like a champ... Edited October 30, 2019 by d-a-m-o Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/2/#findComment-2749810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted October 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 the problem is, the embrace of cancel tactics has permeated much of what you could call dance music social media, and it has taken root in the only group within dance music enthusiasts that has any kind of solidarity. but basically, people who would reject your entire artistic career for minor transgressions aren't worth having as fans. lets see what their music sounds like after 10 years of this shit. dance music has already gotten much worse since the new wave of young people have come to prominence, from 2013 ish to now. another infuriating thing: fact and RA have both disabled comment sections, so they can publish whatever they want with no accountability. really makes you want to follow the money trail..... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/2/#findComment-2749811 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xox Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 Wtf happened to the world?! Maybe i dont understand the logic behind the appropriation... but to call it out it actually seems discriminatory towards black ppl Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/2/#findComment-2749812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 On 10/30/2019 at 2:03 PM, sheatheman said: really makes you want to follow the money trail..... Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/2/#findComment-2749815 Share on other sites More sharing options...
thumbass Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 These cancel culture fuckers need to get a life. I am so done with this shit Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/2/#findComment-2749816 Share on other sites More sharing options...
colunga Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 LMAO this is ridiculous. It really feels like this is a very American POV/reaction but maybe i'm wrong. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/2/#findComment-2749821 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted October 30, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 Someone prominent really needs to call out some of these fools for the rampant cultural hegemony ARPA and Richie Sombrero 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/2/#findComment-2749825 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 Cultural exchange is cancelled ARPA and springymajig 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Silent Member's signature Hide all signatures Some songs I made with my fingers and electronics. In the process of making some more. Hopefully. Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/2/#findComment-2749826 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lyst Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 I am glad WATTM is adopting this view. On Facebook I’m on this music group and it’s not going quite the same. It’s a bunch of white/male guilt ridden eunuchs trying to tell everyone (even black people) how hard minorities have it and how bad Nina is for doing this. My God they need to go kill themselves, it’s the only way to truly get rid of their guilt. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide lyst's signature Hide all signatures my choons. Spotify Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/2/#findComment-2749828 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobDobalina Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 (edited) On 10/30/2019 at 2:22 PM, thumbass said: These cancel culture fuckers need to get a life. I am so done with this shit So wait... are you canceling cancel culture? I don't get any of this TBH. I knew it was on some dumb shit a few weeks (months?) ago when I started hearing cancelled in reference to how Chappelle's recent standup routine rustled many jimmies. So much butthurt over such things not worth it. I don't blame kids/millenials, but I do blame the cultural garbage fed to them, those that did (and still do) the feeding, and a generation of parents phoning it in, amongst others. This hyperconnectivity and all its machinations vicarious living, FOMO, etc. is not normal and not healthy. Can remember where I read or heard it, but there was an article comparing the responses to the typical "what do you want to be when you grow up?" survey question posed to kids coming of age in the 70s-80s versus those in the 90s-00s. While the earlier responses were pretty balanced across the range of typical professions for adults at the time, some absurd number in the latter group, like 60% or 70%, responded with some variation of celebrity, rap/pop-star or pro athlete. Get rich or die trying I guess. Anyway /old guy rant. Here's a picture of thoroughbred horse jockey Eric Cancel. Edited October 30, 2019 by BobDobalina Unfinished thought thumbass, sidewinder and MaartenVC 2 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide BobDobalina's signature Hide all signatures CA$HNE$$ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/2/#findComment-2749833 Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoomTssPhace Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 Lol i was so alarmed coming into this thread but yeah, dumb. RA is sensationalist for even making this an article sidewinder 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/2/#findComment-2749835 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cygnus Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 ARPA, sidewinder, aencre and 10 others 2 6 5 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/2/#findComment-2749836 Share on other sites More sharing options...
TubularCorporation Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 At least it's mainly online LARPing (so far). Read The Cowshed by Xi Jianlin and notice the similar psychology at work. This is not a good direction to be going in. It seems like every time a progressive social movement starts to really get traction, it ends up tearing itself apart over the modest influx of power and career opportunities. Meanwhile the far right has so much solidarity that even Jewish conservatives and neonazis can manage to strategically ally with each other these days. ARPA 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide TubularCorporation's signature Hide all signatures Lagoon City (from here to eternity/when I'm sick of it) Codemus2x43 (2013-14) Golfhammer 40,000 (2014-15) Tubular Corporation (2016-17) THawkins' archive of our livestreams since 2020 Instagram (new releases, music bullshit, non-music bullshit and sometimes photos of my lunch) Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/2/#findComment-2749844 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macca Posted October 30, 2019 Report Share Posted October 30, 2019 from the doc ^^ "Good Hair" should be on netflix or something, people should perhaps check this out as a useful bit of context to the discussion TubularCorporation 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/2/#findComment-2749849 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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