dingformung Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 I had been banned for basically saying that the word n*gger is bad, but I didn't replace the "i"with a "*", so in the eyes of the mods I was using racist language. That's such an American mentality, basically the equivalent to the beep sounds in American media when somebody uses a bad word. ManjuShri and ARPA 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide dingformung's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/8/#findComment-2750620 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr_Nova Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 Yeah, that is a very strange thing. Whether you say "n-word" or say it in full, everyone knows the word you're referencing. (cue Louis CK bit.) That sort of censorship serves absolutely no purpose.... unless your audience is so young they wouldn't know wtf an n-word is. ARPA and dingformung 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Zephyr_Nova's signature Hide all signatures http://zephyrnova.bandcamp.com/releases My noise: http://cthulhudetonator.bandcamp.com My band: http://theskylitup.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/8/#findComment-2750624 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 On 11/2/2019 at 7:17 PM, cooliofranco said: housing discrimination, targeted voter suppression, police brutality, the drug war, racial profiling, sentencing disparities, accumulated wealth disparities, public school funding, health disparities, etc etc. you don't need systemic racism to explain any of those issues imo. they're consequences of a lower socio-economic status or a socially toxic environment and the vicious circle it can get you into: less ressources > less opportunities > less public investment > more bullshit blame the socio-economic system and rightly so but none of that shit is the result of racial discrimination. ARPA 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/8/#findComment-2750634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingformung Posted November 2, 2019 Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 On 11/2/2019 at 11:19 PM, brian trageskin said: you don't need systemic racism to explain any of those issues imo. they're consequences of a lower socio-economic status or a socially toxic environment and the vicious circle it can get you into: less ressources > less opportunities > less public investment > more bullshit blame the socio-economic system and rightly so but none of that shit is the result of racial discrimination. But people of unpriviledged race suffer from these issues more. Their ancestors were slaves so the generations after them had it way harder because their parents had less access to education and wealth. It's a transgenerational trauma that still persists Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide dingformung's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/8/#findComment-2750637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted November 2, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 2, 2019 xox 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/8/#findComment-2750640 Share on other sites More sharing options...
drillkicker Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 It's surreal that people actually care about this. Our age has gotten way more comfortable than humans were ever meant to be. ARPA and donquixote 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide drillkicker's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/8/#findComment-2750644 Share on other sites More sharing options...
drillkicker Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) The world's most significant changes are now determined by massively wealthy and unsustainable deceptive online companies that make 100% of their money by selling people's lives to a dark Masonic government that convolves entire civilizations overnight and people are somehow under the impression that the world's problems are caused by bad hair choices. Edited November 3, 2019 by drillkicker sheatheman 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide drillkicker's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/8/#findComment-2750649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingformung Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 Well yes, on the long term trend we as humanity in many ways move into the right direction: Death by starvation has reduced significantly and - even if the news make it seem otherwise - violence world wide is decreasing. The way our economies work allowed this but at the same time drove us more and more towards an ecological crisis which we don't have the power and political will to stop. And ontop of that this positive long term trend is perturbed by major setbacks related to the global political right shift and a number of severe humanitarian crises and wars. This cancelling bullshit seems pretty meaningless compared to the real problems Extralife and Uros 2 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide dingformung's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/8/#findComment-2750653 Share on other sites More sharing options...
drillkicker Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 If humanity is moving in the right direction, I fail to see it. It seems to me that the old problems are just giving way to a cast of new ones that are no better, and maybe even worse. At least starvation encourages people to work together. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide drillkicker's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/8/#findComment-2750656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
dingformung Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 The modern standard of living must seem utopian to a person living 200 years ago, no? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide dingformung's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/8/#findComment-2750657 Share on other sites More sharing options...
drillkicker Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 It depends on the person and the priorities they have. To someone like St. Seraphim of Sarov, the modern standard of living would be unthinkably oppressive. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide drillkicker's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/8/#findComment-2750659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
xox Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) On 11/2/2019 at 7:17 PM, cooliofranco said: ya. having gone through this thread i'm coming 'round on kraviz being just kinda naive about the issue, which again, makes me wish she hadn't come out so hot with IM NOT A WHITE EUROPEAN. but fine. and from some of the comments on here, i tend to think these subtle controversies do actually do damage because they lead to the usual, honestly guys, i'm sorry, but just straight up dumb statements like "why can't i complain when black people straighten their hair" and "why should present day white people be responsible for historical wrongs." for the love of god get out of your bubble and read about why those don't stand up to any reading of recent recent history and culture: housing discrimination, targeted voter suppression, police brutality, the drug war, racial profiling, sentencing disparities, accumulated wealth disparities, public school funding, health disparities, etc etc. if you not from the US, fine. but if you are here, you have no excuse. Expand This is total bullshit! What bubble?! What i, me, i and me, Xox the Great, have to do with any of this historical wrongs?! It’s a wrong type of solidarity! It’s counterproductive in the long run! I want my freedom bc im giving others the same! Ppl need to just leave others alone to do what ever they want unless they _________ (enter rational stuff here, dangerous stuff, not a fakin haircut!!!). Fak! edit: fak! Edited November 3, 2019 by xox Bodhidharma 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/8/#findComment-2750660 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) ah forget it Edited November 3, 2019 by Guest Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/8/#findComment-2750665 Share on other sites More sharing options...
user Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 On 11/2/2019 at 7:17 PM, cooliofranco said: ya. having gone through this thread i'm coming 'round on kraviz being just kinda naive about the issue, which again, makes me wish she hadn't come out so hot with IM NOT A WHITE EUROPEAN. but fine. and from some of the comments on here, i tend to think these subtle controversies do actually do damage because they lead to the usual, honestly guys, i'm sorry, but just straight up dumb statements like "why can't i complain when black people straighten their hair" and "why should present day white people be responsible for historical wrongs." for the love of god get out of your bubble and read about why those don't stand up to any reading of recent recent history and culture: housing discrimination, targeted voter suppression, police brutality, the drug war, racial profiling, sentencing disparities, accumulated wealth disparities, public school funding, health disparities, etc etc. if you not from the US, fine. but if you are here, you have no excuse. Expand I heard she's closing her sets with this right now: Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/8/#findComment-2750693 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 wartmm is dying ManjuShri 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide oscillik's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/8/#findComment-2750721 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted November 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 Lol ManjuShri 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/8/#findComment-2750732 Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooliofranco Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 On 11/3/2019 at 9:54 AM, user said: I heard she's closing her sets with this right now: Expand ha! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide cooliofranco's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/8/#findComment-2750735 Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDEM Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 On 11/2/2019 at 7:16 AM, Richie Sombrero said: Can't wait for The Black Madonna to weigh in like every other single faux-controversy. On 11/2/2019 at 7:04 PM, dr lopez said: oh she'll weigh in alright Where does body shaming start? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/8/#findComment-2750738 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheatheman Posted November 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 (edited) It starts with thinking supersizing everything all the time is normal. Edited November 3, 2019 by sheatheman Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/8/#findComment-2750747 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soloman Tump Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 Looking at Nina's Insta account, looks like she is back to having normal white woman hair. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Soloman Tump's signature Hide all signatures https://intrusivesignals.blogspot.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/8/#findComment-2750763 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignatius Posted November 3, 2019 Report Share Posted November 3, 2019 america's cultural hegemony still intact? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ignatius's signature Hide all signatures Releases Sample LIbraries instagram Cascade Data Mastodon Reveal hidden contents "All I know about you is what a knock off Autechre lite artist you are, how many you put out?> same with your fucking mindset, vanilla...........goodnight." - arti Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/8/#findComment-2750765 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Candiru Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 Zoe Kravitz is my kind of Kravitz imo Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/8/#findComment-2751205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zephyr_Nova Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 Everybody just stick to their own culture okay? We don't want any cross pollination. That would be fucked up and weird. Whites just be whites, blacks be blacks, and whoever else do whatever it is you do. This is totally not a racist line of thinking. It's a well known fact people imitate the things they fear and despise. It's why I started making IDM music - to take it away from the Aphex Twins, and teh 'chre. dingformung 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Zephyr_Nova's signature Hide all signatures http://zephyrnova.bandcamp.com/releases My noise: http://cthulhudetonator.bandcamp.com My band: http://theskylitup.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/8/#findComment-2751264 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ignatius Posted November 5, 2019 Report Share Posted November 5, 2019 On 11/5/2019 at 6:06 PM, Zephyr_Nova said: It's why I started making IDM music - to take it away from the Aphex Twins, and teh 'chre. technically it's ok for you to make that British music.. the queen is on your money so that's that. us people south of the canadian border are appropriating the culture of our former rulers. we've been internally colonized by the butter toothed fish and chips eating subjects of british royalty. a revolt is due. Lada Laika 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ignatius's signature Hide all signatures Releases Sample LIbraries instagram Cascade Data Mastodon Reveal hidden contents "All I know about you is what a knock off Autechre lite artist you are, how many you put out?> same with your fucking mindset, vanilla...........goodnight." - arti Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/8/#findComment-2751269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
brian trageskin Posted November 9, 2019 Report Share Posted November 9, 2019 Bodhidharma 1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/97961-nina-kraviz-has-been-cancelled/page/8/#findComment-2752024 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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