On 3/10/2021 at 6:08 PM, chenGOD said:

Beijing to HK loyalists: let's show you what authoritarianism is all about.

paywall. 

  On 3/10/2021 at 6:47 PM, ignatius said:

paywall. 

Sorry about that - must have been my last free article for the month.

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China turns its back on Hong Kong loyalists

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At the opening session on Friday, Wang Chen, an NPC vice-chairman, said Hong Kong’s electoral system had “loopholes and deficiencies” that could allow “anti-China forces” to seize control of the city.

Regina Ip, a staunch pro-government lawmaker who has most recently supported China’s internationally condemned Xinjiang policy, suggested she was out of the loop and Beijing was changing who it listened to.

“I am not privy to any thoughts on the part of Beijing officials ...  maybe they have consulted the top, most trusted advisers,” she told the Financial Times. “The former strategy of consultation [with Hong Kong elites] did not end well, it did not produce the results Beijing wanted.”

A member of the executive council, which advises Hong Kong chief executive Carrie Lam, said he did not believe any council member had seen a blueprint of the reforms a month before they were due to be announced.

One pro-establishment lawmaker said he and many of his colleagues were excluded from a symposium in Shenzhen in February on the electoral changes, which was attended by the new officials, “old guard” politicians such as Rita Fan, a former representative to China’s legislature, and some businessmen.

“What the central government is determined to create is not rubber stamps or loyal garbage, but virtuous patriots,” wrote Tian Feilong, the director of the Chinese Association of Hong Kong and Macau Studies – a mainland semi-official think tank in Beijing – in Ming Pao, a Hong Kong newspaper.

In his first big intervention since taking office, Xia Baolong, the head of Beijing’s office that oversees Hong Kong and Macau, said the central government had to take charge of the changes, rather than Hong Kong officials.

The reforms would increase Beijing’s already significant role in Hong Kong politics. China can already determine who is elected chief executive as the candidate is chosen by a committee weighted heavily in favour of the financial hub’s pro-Beijing camp and tycoons who have traditionally supported the government.

Opposition parties used to at least have a chance of winning a majority in the city’s legislature but authorities have disqualified, or are prosecuting, opposition politicians.

We are not Singapore

China did not want to take the “slightest chance” of the elections not going their way, said Johns Hopkins University professor Ho-Fung Hung.

“[The Chinese government] are not sure they have full control of the elite [and] Beijing don’t fully trust the tycoons in the election committee post-2019,” Mr Hung said, referring to the pro-democracy demonstrations.

The city was promised a high degree of autonomy in the 1997 handover from the UK. The electoral changes, however, would increase the tempo of Beijing’s direct interventions in Hong Kong’s affairs, which began with the imposition of a national security law last year.

Jasper Tsang, a founding member of Hong Kong’s largest pro-Beijing political party, said the last time he had been consulted by Chinese officials was following the law’s introduction. “I’m not sure how much difference it [the consultation] made,” he said.

CY Leung, a former Hong Kong chief executive, vice-chairman of the mainland’s top political advisory body and one of China’s most vocal advocates in the territory, said he had not attended any formal consultation sessions on electoral reforms.

Caught by surprise by the strength of the pro-democracy protests in 2019, Beijing signalled its displeasure at the lack of warning by replacing officials who represented the central government in the city.

Some of its new appointees are known for overhauling wayward provinces. Luo Huining, Beijing’s newly appointed head of the Central Liaison Office, rooted out corrupt officials in Shanxi province.

Two pro-Beijing Hong Kong politicians told the FT that mainland officials appointed to the Liaison Office were keeping their distance from the city’s traditional elites.

“I think Beijing would like to have some new blood,” said Lau Siu-kai at the Chinese Association of Hong Kong and Macau Studies.

 

To that end, China has expanded its official presence in the city with a new National Security Department office based on Hong Kong island.

“[Carrie Lam] will govern day to day, but the office is like a big brother with his arm around her shoulder,” one government official said.

Mr Leung suggested Hong Kong lawmakers and elites had to accept Beijing’s greater role in the city’s affairs. “[Hong Kong] is a local government after all,” he said. “We are not Singapore.”

Financial Times

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  On 3/10/2021 at 8:18 PM, chenGOD said:

new National Security Department office based on Hong Kong island.

i'm sure that'll be fun for everyone. eek. 

  On 3/10/2021 at 8:31 PM, ignatius said:

i'm sure that'll be fun for everyone. eek. 

Everyone in that office.

https://gowans.blog/2021/03/02/the-watchdogs-of-imperialism-and-the-uyghur-genocide-slander/

Another useful idiot. 

Mmm super transparent justice system:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/spavor-kovrig-michaels-trial-spying-1.5955938

https://www.atlanticcouncil.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/The-Longer-Telegram-Toward-A-New-American-China-Strategy.pdf

>At home, Xi has returned China to classical Marxism-Leninism and fostered a quasi-Maoist personality cult, pursuing the systematic elimination of his political opponents. China’s market reforms have stalled and its private sector is now under direct forms of party control.

B A S E D

(im in no way endorsing anything more than that sentence out of this disgusting imperialist document)

>use China’s growing influence within international institutions to delegit-imize and overturn initiatives, standards, and norms perceived as hostile to China’s interests—particularly on human rights and international mar-itime law—while advancing a new, hierarchical, authoritarian conception of international order under Xi’s deliberately amorphous concept of a “community of common destiny for all mankind”

literally beyond hilarious as if the US gives half a fuck about human rights and maritime law lmao

>address persistent shared global threats, including preventing cata-strophic climate change

addressing climate change apparently isnt something we must do to save the biosphere, but instead something we must do to undermine Chinese economic dominance.  nazi settler state literally self btfod

the paternalistic nature of this document is enough to make you sick

mask off, these mentally deranged fucks who wrote this literally want to decrease living standards for the Chinese people

>Tenth, for Xi, too, “It’s the economy, stupid.” Short of defeat in any future military action, the single greatest factor that could contribute to Xi’s fall is economic failure. That would mean large-scale unemployment and falling liv-ing standards for China’s population. Full employment and rising living stan-dards are the essential components of the unspoken social contract between the Chinese people and the CCP since the tumult of the Cultural Revolution.

"red lines" they want china back in its place, they want to hurt the chinese people so they get back to work as the primary exporter to western capitalist nations.  fuck the US so much

>continued refusal by China, within a defined time frame, to participate in substantive bilateral or multilateral strategic nuclear arms reduction talks, with the object of securing a cap on China’s program of nuclear modern-ization and expansion

lmao

nazistic death drive with american characteristics

>any act of genocide or crimes against humanity against any group within China

this one here is their trump card. as long as they manufacture consent in the west they can do whatever they want

>investing at scale, alongside US allies, in the World Bank and the regional development banks, in order to provide emerging economies with an effective means of funding the development of their national infrastruc-ture, thus encouraging use of the World Bank (including its transparent governance standards) as a credible alternative to the BRI

more asceticism for the working class of third worldized nations to pay off debt to the World Bank great.

>And May the Best Side Win in the Global Battle for Ideas

there are no ideas at battle here only US military violence

Chinese people still eat dog meat?

  On 3/22/2021 at 1:17 AM, Milwaukeeeee said:

Chinese people still eat dog meat?

Have you seen those Chinese wet markets? They’ll eat anything with four legs. 

and inevitably the western discussion of china devolves into "chinese people eat dogs and anything with four legs" thinly veiling the same anti-asian racism used to justify numerous western atrocities in various bordering regions

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ban chengod

  On 3/22/2021 at 3:48 AM, cyanobacteria said:

and inevitably the western discussion of china devolves into "chinese people eat dogs and anything with four legs" thinly veiling the same anti-asian racism used to justify numerous western atrocities in various bordering regions

When you talk shit about chenGOD in the China thread, you fucked up.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lychee_and_Dog_Meat_Festival

  On 3/22/2021 at 11:38 AM, dingformung said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lychee_and_Dog_Meat_Festival

Guanxi is the Alabama of China. Your point is?

I have no point. Just curiosity. I can see your point, though, and agree.

You are forgiven.

Let's meet up for hot dogs and lychees some time.

I've seen some Chinese wet markets, btw, and they were fine. Nobody is worried about those. It's the wet markets in South East Asia that are problematic.

I don't see how eating dog is worse than eating other meats tbh, cows and lamb are pretty cute as well. Fish are kind of asking for it.

Chickens, too, in a way.  They are arseholes.  We should all eat more insects.

  On 3/22/2021 at 3:48 AM, cyanobacteria said:

and inevitably the western discussion of china devolves into "chinese people eat dogs and anything with four legs" thinly veiling the same anti-asian racism used to justify numerous western atrocities in various bordering regions

How is it racist to state a fact? Koreans still dogs as well. I've tried dog a few times while I was living there. I'm not saying it's wrong or they are bad people for doing it, I'm simply saying they do it.

To make that leap to justifying numerous western atrocities in various bordering regions in an incredible fallacy. Also, which Western atrocities are you referring to?

  On 3/22/2021 at 3:24 PM, dingformung said:

We should all eat more insects

Fried crickets are good, though they can be a little oily at times. Silkworm pupae on the other hand should never be eaten by anyone at anytime.

Although not an insect, fried bullfrog legs are actually not bad at all. Tastes like chicken.