4utechre (Ae twitch.tv)

That takes some foreknowledge to be able to see it

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death to the new flesh long live to twitchdrome

https://we.tl/t-rLtnoh9gfQ

  On 5/14/2020 at 1:51 PM, jaderpansen said:

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Yep, I knew it was that, but I meant that it's hard to make out if you don't know what you're looking for.

that's some prospect alright, thanks for sharing!

If the "deadlines" are getting the album finished, then get on with it FFS

j/k

All work and no play makes Sean a dull boy

https://we.tl/t-cbqOwNjmTE

makes sense that they're cool with sharing the video / experimental work, it doesn't have the pressure of being considered an autechre album or whatever that implies.  for that reason I was disappointed that there were articles "reporting" new album in the works (quoting richard devine posting a screenshot on twitter).. when they were just being honest and chatting with fans.. better to leave it to fans in the know and report when there is actual news when they decide to package something up.

serious space travel flotsam:

 https://we.tl/t-cbqOwNjmTE

  On 5/16/2020 at 1:57 AM, Draft78 said:

serious space travel flotsam:

 https://we.tl/t-cbqOwNjmTE

 

^^wrong link, it's from yesterday^^

today:

https://we.tl/t-aYBbbHxLTT

I've spent what feels like an unhealthy amount of time in there today. Time for a break.

I returned yesterday after supper and hung around until 1 a.m. local time, it had definitely calmed down then though. Woke up to find it still going at more or less the same pace. Yesterday afternoon it was sounding pretty wild.

still p surreal that this is happening.. much love ae

well thanks for the chat report,

'coz i've been on twitch a few minutes, then leave for lunch with family just when the chat with Sean started,

then came back just when it was over  hahah  (nevermind, familly is way mor important) but ....

happy I will be able to read all this interesting stuff  (even if it feel like a paparrazi thing , quoting every single sing sean says on then chat to report...idk... well fuck it)

  On 5/17/2020 at 3:13 PM, Draft78 said:

4utechre: idk who recorded mcr qtr

4utechre: iirc we grabbed it of slsk

that's quite hilarious.

hehe... well, i report only if i find something intersting or specifically funny... in this case there are a lot of technical tips and reviews that I'm sure many will be interested in ..i hope so, at last 

thx for quoting Sean's explanation of how the twitch channel works.  That's insane

I think he's explained it before, no? At least the part about the RGB values. Not sure if it went into this much detail then.

  On 5/17/2020 at 3:13 PM, Draft78 said:

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4utechre: everyone else can be a noise artist

ccribbe: have you shown any of this to chris cunningam yet

4utechre: chris would prob just laugh

4utechre: its all max and jitter this

metacodex4: to insert some boring grey brutalism textures

martybyrnemusic: class

4utechre: the audio all derives from the video signal

uviol8: i believen you reverred 2 it as the system

4utechre: so its a sort of group composition

rephlexwest: afternoon all

metacodex4: the audio is generated by the video itself ???

4utechre: it sounds better if post lots of coloured emotes

uviol8: i mean pure the music

nixtrove: Weirdcore melted my brain once. its total overload

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4utechre: yeah all the synths are using the video signal as data

 

4utechre: also the drums but u cant tell as much

metacodex4: wow it really changes

metacodex4: maybe the velocity ?

uviol8: Ow Interesting

metacodex4: maybe you should write this into the description or so

martybyrnemusic: Lovely

uviol8: it's cool if u don't wanna Say

4utechre: yeah its a bit of a long description though

4utechre: not really into describing things

4utechre: but i can tell u how it works

uviol8: ok gonna be a big One?

metacodex4: only this i mean ; )

thetwistedprocess: thought it was the reverse relation

bamTommyS: i'd like to hear it

bamTommyS: if you don't mind saying

4utechre: pretty simple just swapped out the oscillators in a load of synths with a custom oscillator based on jit.peek~

metacodex4: i always wanted to acompany my music with visuals, i hope its not that complicated

nixtrove: i knew they were jit oscillators

metacodex4: awesome thanks !!!

4utechre: the custom osc is actually 3 oscillators

bamTommyS: what does colour do?

4utechre: so basically there are 3 colour channels, r g b

metacodex4: ah ok

4utechre: and each channel has its own oscillator

uviol8: can i ask musical question? how did u do All End

ccribbe: what a simple question^

metacodex4: loool

bamTommyS: that's cool, and weirdly simple

metacodex4: paulstretch

nixtrove: Red sounds tight

 

metacodex4: its evolving !

nixtrove: You could like hold a sustain pedal and bring up some strings or winds on a keyboard and layer notes and boom

nixtrove: All end

metacodex4: kick is louder now !

4utechre: the 3 oscillators are mixed using a kind of crossover

tebbisimo: how does the crossover work, cos my man was complaining it just picks the like, dominant Freak

tebbisimo: or spectrum or whatever

4utechre: so the red is lowest freq and blue is highest, green in the mid

tebbisimo: like there was no nuance for him

4utechre: did it by ear/taste/feel

martybyrnemusic: so is red : more bass? 

4utechre: sort of

4utechre: it depends

4utechre: like how ur then filtering the output of the osc

 

uviol8: u asked for red blue indeed,

martybyrnemusic: aha

4utechre: but yeah in general yellow sounds warm and colourful, red is war, blue is cool

uviol8: what was White 4

mrgypsum: i really like that the visuals have all been pretty varied on this channel there was like old bbc stuff and now stuff like this good diversity of stuff

metacodex4: if you would insert yoru faces you would get sort of an a e puzzle

4utechre: *warm

nixtrove: yellow rocks this one

tebbisimo: u said Robs gonna do a twitch????

4utechre: if you had only once oscillatr yeah u can re-encode into an image

tebbisimo: whats his called 8utechre

 

martybyrnemusic: hehe, red is war! Could be interesting... Certain colours dominating triggering some really wild card moments.

4utechre: but becasue there are many oscillators you get many overlaid differently scaled images

4utechre: bt still u can sometimes make out the source

tebbisimo: no ketchup

tebbisimo: raw source

nixtrove: so the oscillators are modulating each other?

martybyrnemusic: yellow is doing some cool filtering it seems

4utechre: theres one fm synth in there

4utechre: doing the sort of chirp sound

nixtrove: i hear it its nice

4utechre: the rest are just straight what youd call digi subtractive

4utechre: but with this mutant jit.peek~ osc ting

nixtrove: long the random sustains

nixtrove: love

tebbisimo: and u upgraded the reverb eh

tebbisimo: cos some times its like corrr

4utechre: ah yeah

4utechre: its not really a reverb

tebbisimo: wot issit

4utechre: but it can do some reverby sounding things

tebbisimo: haha

tebbisimo: its a delay

tebbisimo: wait

rephlexwest: how would the patch respond to the tri repetae green/brown/grey color I wonder

nixtrove: its like EG

nixtrove: isnt it

4utechre: yeah sort of compound delay thing

bamTommyS: can we ask how you made other tracks?

4utechre: bit more configurable than a reverb but similar topology

tebbisimo: isnt reverb just a v small delay

AnotherJimmy: Is this just having fun or would you release anything based on this?

nixtrove: thats pretty cool as well

4utechre: theres tons of ways to do it tbh

4utechre: but yeha usually combs delays and apfs

nixtrove: do any colora affect this delay?

tebbisimo: yeh i remember in an interview u were like

nixtrove: s

tebbisimo: We just route off into delays and reverbs like x100

tebbisimo: and we sort of lose a bit of track of it all

4utechre: yeah i shove all kinds of random shit in there

tebbisimo: niiiice

4utechre: feedback loops supergood

tebbisimo: and then just make envelopes around the weirdness

nixtrove: there was this cool dissonant pad yesterday for a hot minute

tebbisimo: "just"

martybyrnemusic: so you mean, you've a load of different oscs / synths / beats etc going off into many different delay / feedback channels?

4utechre: usually control some aspect of the process in the loop yeah

uviol8: can i ask bout music

neurone45: dor thos who wants a bit of hint about how reverb works (old and new) : ***

4utechre: yeah when i used hardware was always routing things in weird nonlinear ways

tebbisimo: yeh i noticed in the machinedrum

tebbisimo: like wtf

diurn_: hello good morning all

tebbisimo: how u do dat

tebbisimo: mornin

cognessence: Good morning

pobelterzzzz: does anyone know if they use FL Studio and what sample pack is this?

4utechre: tbh i seen way more impressive stuff out there than out md bits

martybyrnemusic: how long have yous been NOT using hardware? 

uviol8: mornin

4utechre: for ages now

4utechre: idk

tebbisimo: you kinda have to live through it yrself to make sense of it tho eh

4utechre: 10 years

nixtrove: s35an any tricks using a nord lead

tebbisimo: like I dunno, for me anyway

martybyrnemusic: I wondered if maybe yous had mad rigs of modular, but I'm actually chuffed to hear that that's not the case.

tebbisimo: why pay 300£ a pop when he can copy and paste from notepad

4utechre: wow u just reminded me of a whole nord lead thing i did in max ages ago

4utechre: might try to revive that

tebbisimo: niiiiiiice

nixtrove: That is the shit

hellospiral: 

pobelterzzzz: s34n btw that spectral morphing part in the 2016/18 live sets, around 13 mins is my favorite sound i have ever heard, can't get enough of it

nixtrove: I picked up a rack version

cognessence: Nord Lead 3 so underrated!

nixtrove: Got the original it really sounds its time

tebbisimo: Are u or Russel undisputed king of the fart noises btw?

tebbisimo: or is it a patch u gave Russ

tebbisimo: like onesix is very gutteral

uviol8: Yeah what's that morphin sound in onesix

4utechre: russ has patches from a few people idk

martybyrnemusic: the Nord Lead has a powerful synth engine, right? And I think there's a software editor, so you can get into some deep places

4utechre: i think i only ever made him a dj thing

tebbisimo: ahhh fair, I thought he was using ur AE_live bits for Russ_Live

nixtrove: pls revive the nord that would be so damn dope

4utechre: the nord lead doesnt need a software editor

4utechre: idk if there is one

cognessence: It’s true, the interface is so easy

4utechre: i mean its sort of good because of no menu diving

nixtrove: Its a beautiful machine

4utechre: all there on the panel

nixtrove: yeah

4utechre: one of fastest synths for me

nixtrove: Was used a lot on cichlisuite?

solojazzcup: not sure if anyone's asked this yet, but where do you get your ideas from

martybyrnemusic: lol

pobelterzzzz: lol

4utechre: also has a sor tof weirdly distinct thin but nice sound sort of glassy and delicate

4utechre: depending which one they all sound a bit diff

nixtrove: It has amazing engines and it rlly is all so simple

nixtrove: Yeah glassy

martybyrnemusic: I'm picturing you sort of hacking it to incorporate it into some glitchy generative stuff

4utechre: yeah u can do a bit with sysex

nixtrove: Would be cool to dust off and use if you got it lyin around

4utechre: the thing i found though was i had to limit controller data

diurn_: do you like any stuff from behringer? lately they're doing dope synths

diurn_: Im in love w/ deepmind one

4utechre: like it breaks if u send it too much even though it can receive it all

nixtrove: Theres a panic button

uviol8: Well, hmm, more of a bass player myself. Don't have a clue bout this technical stuff

martybyrnemusic: breaks but not in the nice way? hehe

nixtrove: press button to panic lol

4utechre: but if i do something like quantize the controller data to 16ths its a fucking beast

4utechre: can handle quite a bit of input then

nixtrove: Yea id sequence it with other shit for basic 16 step stuff

nixtrove: i*

uviol8: is xflood same fx used as One - six live recordings

cognessence: That’s so interesting. Like overloading too much polyphony into a synth you’ve made purposefully lower to make nice sounds with note stealing

nixtrove: but could go way more

nixtrove: yeah note stealing is so fun

4utechre: yeah shit the voice stealing on the first nord leads was hilarious

4utechre: so we abused it loads

nixtrove: What did you mean about drum maps?

4utechre: like if u got 4 sounds in the track off that u can get all sorts of weird choking/quick morph action

martybyrnemusic: aaaah nice

nixtrove: Oh yeah the layers there, if you sequenced each of them diff

nixtrove: get some overlaps

nixtrove: oversteps

rephlexwest: overlapsteps

nixtrove: Idk i magically found one in mtl

nixtrove: Would not expect to find one

rephlexwest: stepoverlaps

nixtrove: I did 13k steps yesterday btw

nixtrove: Wheres my medal

cognessence: “weirdly distinct thin but nice sound sort of glassy and delicate” sums up NL so well, it’s why it always works in some many contexts easily with little need for faffing compared to others

rephlexwest: nice

cognessence: *so many

4utechre: yeah clavia are smart to hang onto their algos and go after keyboard players, but still the g2 was a kind of pinnacle imo

4utechre: and the lead basic template isnt gonna age ever

rephlexwest: I wish I understood like a quarter of all the tech jargon going on here rn lol

4utechre: they should do a proper full software release of g2 imo

uviol8: me too

martybyrnemusic: you reckon it wouldn't lose anything in the digital domain?

nixtrove: Its really solid. the fm knob there especs

martybyrnemusic: Is it all digital anyway?

4utechre: it might yeah

4utechre: but i doubt it

cognessence: There would be a tonne of interest for sure!

4utechre: think u could emu what need to

4utechre: its nice having nord sound and that workflow

martybyrnemusic: maybe you'd lose that choking / stealing thing ... or they could offer you that mode... To make it more like the real thing.

4utechre: i prob prefer using max anyway these days but i like having their sound in that domain

nixtrove: Youd sequence a nord on max?

4utechre: i used to quie a bit

4utechre: not now at all

4utechre: been 100% itb for ages now

Master_Chang: o/ all

rephlexwest: do you do much field recordings nowadays btw?

4utechre: none really

4utechre: not that i dont enjoy that kind of stuff tons

nixtrove: Its funny how getting out of the box kind of makes you still go in the box

MirandaGemini: we're sounding very menacing today

cognessence: I want a Yamaha FS1R in software! Love the plastic sound. Not paying that much for a module again

rephlexwest: what was the last irl object you recorded, and used in a track?

4utechre: fs1r is amazing i gave mine to daz fitton though

martybyrnemusic: see the live stuff, are yous turning up with your max system and just hitting play and seeing what happens? Do yous set some new variables and parameters before each show?

martybyrnemusic: Are they based on things specific to that time or place, or more just arbitrary and whatever feels good at the time? ( I'm being very nosey now hehehe)

4utechre: sometimes theres some little tweaks before we go on but its mainly just see what happens

nixtrove: does tri repetae have that nord/max seq stuff i kind of hear it there

monoppus: what sample rate u guys work at?

martybyrnemusic: amazing

nixtrove: dw im makin coffee you can go on

4utechre: no nord on tri rep no that was a couple of years before

nixtrove: O right im 20 anyway jeez

pobelterzzzz: not sure if you remember, during onesix in Tourcoing, at the chord part round 44mins, sounded like some cpu issues and the silence part never came, it was just blasting the chords for a few mins 

 was that intentional? sounded really sick tho

nixtrove: By the time i was born youll have done so much shit already

4utechre: ok so yeah in 95 we had quite a diff setup

diurn_: can you recommend me any max/msp devices? I guess that you're using a lo of gate'd effects

4utechre: the main computer was atari st

tebbisimo: i like this bit

nixtrove: Nice atari

4utechre: running c-lab creator

tebbisimo: corrrr

4utechre: and then we had loads of hardware but mosty roland gear

nixtrove: Oh yeah never asked about software you used before max

nixtrove: how was C lab? was it grid style?

cognessence: I like the Alessi Midi/quadraverb (?) vibe from that era, so rusty murky nice vivid reverb spaces

4utechre: nah creator is cool its weird though sort of like a tracker for midi

4utechre: and can do live jamming by muting unmuting midi channels

4utechre: and can record the muting etc

monoppus: the event list

4utechre: its a cool program

prefuturism_0: which tecker alllllbum sounds the most colourful?

4utechre: also had groove mapping before anything else

nixtrove: Yeah sounds sick. do youd link up all the gear into creator and basically jam?

4utechre: lot of the weird timing stuff on chiastic was done with c-lab

agecp: Really dig sunvox as a tracker

4utechre: yeah

4utechre: the roland r8 was like our main drum machine

agecp: So poweful

4utechre: cos it had the sort of mpc workflow but was pre-mpc

4utechre: also it has tape sync and din sync as well as midi sync

4utechre: so very fucking useful

nixtrove: Yea i discovered it at a friends and hes a bit older so i was intrigued about the R8 for some time

4utechre: as a result was the centre of the tudio p much

4utechre: *s

nixtrove: Heard you only used it to sequence not the sounds themselves?

martybyrnemusic: then just feed it through tonnes of effects? hehe

4utechre: used the sounds loads

nixtrove: oh wow

4utechre: but also used as a sequencer

4utechre: the thing is u cant do any pitching over midi

nixtrove: Yea seemed like a capable sequencer for that period

4utechre: well u can but its not the same methos it uses for internal pitching

nixtrove: oh no octaves?

4utechre: like if u do a hi hat in r8 and vary pitch param in r8 it stays same midi note

nixtrove: ok i see it doesnt affect the data

4utechre: anyway yeah tons of our early stuff is just r8 sounds heavly edited pitched around etc

4utechre: like making a kick out of a tom or whatever

nixtrove: was there a workaround for the pitching?

nixtrove: yeah kicks of toms is dope

4utechre: no u just sequence the r8 internally

4utechre: anyone buying an r8m is doing it wrong

4utechre: basically

nixtrove: it just seems to be lyin around in ppl studios

nixtrove: collecting dust

tebbisimo: would u do it all with a view to make the machines do it from start to end?

4utechre: yeah its so editable though

tebbisimo: or just to sample and figure out live later

4utechre: like at the time was so OTT

4utechre: yeah so all tri rep was live takes sort of

4utechre: the arrangemnt would be mostly planned and then run thru it by feel

4utechre: do it a few times until u do 'the one'

cognessence: That’s really old school! Nice It has that feel

nixtrove: yeah i love this livetake approach

4utechre: but some would be like the track made in creator and then we sort of mix it live, some we'd have the loops going and just do the arrange by ear

tebbisimo: thats even more amazing

4utechre: yeah it can be good

tebbisimo: so the core is there

4utechre: although maybe end up with tracks too long cos ur really into it idk lol

tebbisimo: then human tweaks for feel

nixtrove: those long tracks are something

4utechre: been working really differently recently not like these long jam things

tebbisimo: hahaha yeh man, then going through must be a nightmare.... Quarastice sounds like a time of many many versions hahaha

uviol8: so it's a mixed approach, planned and jammin

4utechre: this twitch thing is a red herring don't be fooled

ovalvoal: So when can we hear that recent new approach, then?

4utechre: idk warp saying last qtr 2020, but it depends on logistics which idk corona

4utechre: but its in progress

martybyrnemusic: would love to know the process that led to Confield's opening track, it seems to be like a major progression from the live jams and gear explorations mixed with getting deeper with the code / Max world, but it also sounds like neither. The tempo changes and morphing about seems so abstract to my ears, still. Was it different to how yous worked before or since?

tebbisimo: I think they got the cheeddar for full ozs now

4utechre: lol idk what the big deal with confield is

4utechre: that track yeah was a weird method i gues

nixtrove: Confield seemed to be a game changer for ppl idk

martybyrnemusic: hehe, I love it. But I see how some people would be like "where's the beats, maaaaan" but fuck those people. hehehe

uviol8: it has something different

tebbisimo: well its just a lazy persons way of saying

nixtrove: “Difficult”

tebbisimo: hahaha

tebbisimo: rite

mrgypsum: my favs untilted the beats!!!

4utechre: i think its just cos track one isnt what u normally call a steady beat

uviol8: weird yet normal weird

n05uchk3y: the basss slower sounds even nicer

n05uchk3y: melting in my brain like

uviol8: Yeah but ae has many trx Like that

martybyrnemusic: yeah, it's like this liquid metal sort of trickling thing, it's amazing

4utechre: like when u ask people why its a weird album they always think of only that track, maybe the last track

uviol8: bine 's also weird

nixtrove: in the mixes

4utechre: yeah bine

n05uchk3y: I think people will get this really in year 4040 aprox

tebbisimo: m,an MCR quarter

tebbisimo: who recorded that

4utechre: but the rest arent that weird i ***

tebbisimo: i fukkkin love that

4utechre: like sort of weird but not that weird

ovalvoal: I recall using Confield those years for studio monitors testing haha

4utechre: idk who recorded mcr qtr

4utechre: iirc we grabbed it of slsk

nixtrove: LOL

tebbisimo: its such a lovely recording

tebbisimo: like the energy is all sucked together

tebbisimo: and then when it breathes to like go round again

tebbisimo: man

n05uchk3y: then should be a sub bass even lower than 5 hz

4utechre: yeah best bootleg 10/10 would dl again

4utechre: the way i see the live things is its so far just 2 albums worth of stuff but with a ton of versions of one and a few of the other

tebbisimo: wld it have killed u to bookmark it

tebbisimo: i cba to cut em up

4utechre: lol

tebbisimo: but would be so good to cut them all up and listen to THAT TRACK

hellospiral: lol

tebbisimo: u know, the gd bit of C16 Deep tread that u didnt include

4utechre: yeah u can do that though i mean u can dl the wares for free

tebbisimo: the spiral head fuck crescendo ting

tebbisimo: yeh but thyyyyyyyyyme

4utechre: well same

tebbisimo: audacity sure but cba cant a warp temp do it

4utechre: NO

 

 

 

 

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