On 12/3/2021 at 10:11 PM, Ayya Khema said:

As if im really a paramedic, I was a year ago. I'm not a paramedic as in today for multiple reasons. I have many paramedic friends obviously

unvaxxed capitalism

  On 12/3/2021 at 10:11 PM, Ayya Khema said:

yeah, I think the last stats for people under 50 who dies of covid is something between 0.02% to 0.05% fatalities.

and stats surrounding covid death are quite telling. over 80% of people who dies of covid have over 2.5 factors of co-morbidities. something like 50% are Vitamin D deficient, ect.

the influenza was by many factors more dangerous for people under 70. Covid is more dangerous then influenza for people over 70 years old

As if im really a paramedic, I was a year ago and I hope ill be able to come back: the way it looks though is that it might not be possible.. I'm not a paramedic as in today for multiple reasons. I have many paramedic friends obviously

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Not trying to be an asshole here but you ignored the first 2 questions and instead rephrased what you already said. Are these stats about case mortality or overall deathrate? If you'd link to the stats then I could go and look for myself. I mean, if the stats you link to provide this info.

Hope you're able to go back to work soon.

  On 12/3/2021 at 10:11 PM, Ayya Khema said:

the influenza was by many factors more dangerous for people under 70. Covid is more dangerous then influenza for people over 70 years old

This is blatantly untrue:

https://www.thelancet.com/article/S2213-2600(20)30527-0/fulltext

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Findings

89 530 patients with COVID-19 and 45 819 patients with influenza were hospitalised in France during the respective study periods. The median age of patients was 68 years (IQR 52–82) for COVID-19 and 71 years (34–84) for influenza. Patients with COVID-19 were more frequently obese or overweight, and more frequently had diabetes, hypertension, and dyslipidaemia than patients with influenza, whereas those with influenza more frequently had heart failure, chronic respiratory disease, cirrhosis, and deficiency anaemia. Patients admitted to hospital with COVID-19 more frequently developed acute respiratory failure, pulmonary embolism, septic shock, or haemorrhagic stroke than patients with influenza, but less frequently developed myocardial infarction or atrial fibrillation. In-hospital mortality was higher in patients with COVID-19 than in patients with influenza (15 104 [16·9%] of 89 530 vs 2640 [5·8%] of 45 819), with a relative risk of death of 2·9 (95% CI 2·8–3·0) and an age-standardised mortality ratio of 2·82. Of the patients hospitalised, the proportion of paediatric patients (<18 years) was smaller for COVID-19 than for influenza (1227 [1·4%] vs 8942 [19·5%]), but a larger proportion of patients younger than 5 years needed intensive care support for COVID-19 than for influenza (14 [2·3%] of 613 vs 65 [0·9%] of 6973). In adolescents (11–17 years), the in-hospital mortality was ten-times higher for COVID-19 than for influenza (five [1·1% of 458 vs one [0·1%] of 804), and patients with COVID-19 were more frequently obese or overweight.

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https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-12-gum-sars-cov-transmission.html

''A chewing gum laced with a plant-grown protein serves as a "trap" for the SARS-CoV-2 virus, reducing viral load in saliva and potentially tamping down transmission, according to a new study.

The work, led by Henry Daniell at Penn's School of Dental Medicine and performed in collaboration with scientists at the Perelman School of Medicine and School of Veterinary Medicine, as well as at The Wistar Institute and Fraunhofer USA, could lead to a low-cost tool in the arsenal against the COVID-19 pandemic. Their study was published in the journal Molecular Therapy.''

  On 12/4/2021 at 3:02 AM, thefxbip said:

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2021-12-gum-sars-cov-transmission.html

''A chewing gum laced with a plant-grown protein serves as a "trap" for the SARS-CoV-2 virus, reducing viral load in saliva and potentially tamping down transmission, according to a new study.

The work, led by Henry Daniell at Penn's School of Dental Medicine and performed in collaboration with scientists at the Perelman School of Medicine and School of Veterinary Medicine, as well as at The Wistar Institute and Fraunhofer USA, could lead to a low-cost tool in the arsenal against the COVID-19 pandemic. Their study was published in the journal Molecular Therapy.''

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sounds like the Big Gum lobby 

''Alien Martian technology''

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Italian man tries to dodge Covid vaccine wearing fake arm

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/05/1059828993/data-vaccine-misinformation-trump-counties-covid-death-rate

  On 12/4/2021 at 12:45 AM, chenGOD said:

This is blatantly untrue:

https://www.thelancet.com/article/S2213-2600(20)30527-0/fulltext

 

 

Ive actually started googling this stuff up. I admit I cannot find the stats about influenza and death rates.

now im even more scared. when you google covid death per 100 000. in the world, they say: 666

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_death_rates_by_country

https://www.google.com/search?q=covid+death+per+100+000&rlz=1C1MSIM_enCA923CA923&oq=covid+death+per+100&aqs=chrome.0.0i512l2j69i57j0i512l7.4241j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

  On 12/3/2021 at 11:45 PM, user said:

Not trying to be an asshole here but you ignored the first 2 questions and instead rephrased what you already said. Are these stats about case mortality or overall deathrate? If you'd link to the stats then I could go and look for myself. I mean, if the stats you link to provide this info.

 

Hope you're able to go back to work soon.

 

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iirc many did look up if the stats were legit. and they are directly from Hopkins. In the video, the stats shown are the death rates iirc

lol

  On 12/3/2021 at 9:35 PM, user said:

Wrong again. Jon Hopkins. I thought this was a music forum ffs. Bunch of fact-free goddamn hippies. 

  On 12/6/2021 at 8:46 AM, Ayya Khema said:

Ive actually started googling this stuff up. I admit I cannot find the stats about influenza and death rates.

now im even more scared. when you google covid death per 100 000. in the world, they say: 666

Country	Deaths per million	Deaths	Cases
World	666	5,248,669	265,423,384
Peru	6,036	201,360	2,242,646
Bulgaria	4,176	28,805	702,454

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/COVID-19_pandemic_death_rates_by_country

https://www.google.com/search?q=covid+death+per+100+000&rlz=1C1MSIM_enCA923CA923&oq=covid+death+per+100&aqs=chrome.0.0i512l2j69i57j0i512l7.4241j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 

iirc many did look up if the stats were legit. and they are directly from Hopkins. In the video, the stats shown are the death rates iirc

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  On 12/6/2021 at 8:58 AM, usagi said:

lol

Wonderful!

This thread is now about The Cure. The Cure with capitals.

She’s bad, but this is cray cray

I got the J&J. I admit to being a little spooked by mRna. Now they want the kids to get it, though? At least with adults we might not see long term consequences. This is really new tech. I probably sound like an idiot but is there a chance you could get super viruses this way? Much like stronger antibiotics stronger superbugs. What do I know.

  On 12/7/2021 at 7:27 PM, marf said:

I got the J&J. I admit to being a little spooked by mRna. Now they want the kids to get it, though? At least with adults we might not see long term consequences. This is really new tech. I probably sound like an idiot but is there a chance you could get super viruses this way? Much like stronger antibiotics stronger superbugs. What do I know.

i'm an idiot but.. the mRNA aren't a piece of the active virus. you can't get the virus from the mRNA vaccines. whereas the non-mRna vaccines are a slice of the actual virus but modified. i probably explained this using the wrong terms and only added to confusion but you can google the differences and find a good source that isn't a mom's group on facebook for the data/details. all kinds of results pop up when searching on google. 

antibiotics and mRna technology are way different. 

cdc is a good source for how they work

mRNA info

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mRNA.html?s_cid=11347:%2BmRNA %2Bvaccines:sem.b:p:RG:GM:gen:PTN:FY21

traditional "virus vector" vaccines

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/viralvector.html

  On 12/7/2021 at 7:58 PM, ignatius said:

i'm an idiot but.. the mRNA aren't a piece of the active virus. you can't get the virus from the mRNA vaccines. whereas the non-mRna vaccines are a slice of the actual virus but modified. i probably explained this using the wrong terms and only added to confusion but you can google the differences and find a good source that isn't a mom's group on facebook for the data/details. all kinds of results pop up when searching on google. 

antibiotics and mRna technology are way different. 

cdc is a good source for how they work

 

mRNA info

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/mRNA.html?s_cid=11347:%2BmRNA %2Bvaccines:sem.b:p:RG:GM:gen:PTN:FY21

traditional "virus vector" vaccines

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/different-vaccines/viralvector.html

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Pretty sure the J&J is a different (inactive) virus (adenovirus) that's been modified to have the COVID spike proteins on the surface.

There's some pretty good info in the article I linked a page or two earlier in the thread.

I made my final decision on the J&J after seeing this. How can these artists want to hurt me?

(in honesty my father almost sold his business to the Johnson company in the 80's and they almost stole everything.)

I remember when AIDS was scary as fuck. 100 % death rate and the world kind of shrugged. 

  On 12/10/2021 at 12:12 AM, marf said:

I remember when AIDS was scary as fuck. 100 % death rate and the world kind of shrugged. 

Did it?

Everyone around me has COVID. I'm staying in the studio.