About Sean dissing albums

Listening to the bootlegs I'm really enjoying the sound of their recent live sets and can't wait for their release. I'm hoping the batch includes every set recorded. It seems like they're still getting better, which is an incredible achievement imo. I don't need individual tracks and just want to hear the music.

  On 10/25/2024 at 11:34 AM, phudoshin said:

 

This time.. i might use anagrams of the location or something... all for my own amusement

Make sure to post them so watmm can roast you for it

  On 10/23/2024 at 9:18 PM, cern said:

I think we need to discuss this because I can't wrap my head around this one. 

From Metal Magazine Sean said quote:

 

It seems like he have not even consider what a complete album means compare to their live sets in general. 

For me one album of them Is like a book with a story, It is that time and that moment they are perfectly laid out in a way to enjoy it track by track..piece by piece. 
The live sets is not the same tracks but rather that same sound in that era. It changes from set to set and is very enjoyable. To get the Soundboards is a bless but according to me it can not top a finished album in complete-ness. 

What are your thoughts? 

 

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I'm sorry but make whatever you want wherever you want.. if it's anything like PLUS or SIGN or bleep forbid that NTS session stuff? count me out haha.. sorry! 

  On 10/23/2024 at 9:18 PM, cern said:

What are your thoughts? 

i think, whatever the medium, as long as ae continue "broadcasting" in one way or another, that's freaking awesome.

  On 10/25/2024 at 8:51 AM, zkom said:

I understand because I also like to sometimes just play selected tracks from albums but this was basically how albums worked before CDs. You needed to drop the needle to a correct place or wind the cassette. Ah, the frustration of winding and rewinding a cassette to find the one song I wanted to hear.  Sometimes you forget how convenient the modern tools to play music are.

Edit: Oh yeah, I also remember my father berating me for using the rewind button on my Walkman too much because it ate up the batteries faster when I was constantly rewinding.

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Yeah good point. And my hands are so shaky that when I listen to vinyl I almost never actually lift the needle to change tracks. But I also like the way the format causes albums to be segmented into sides A/B/etc. One of my favorite things about listening to a record is putting on a particular side to enjoy that specific run of tracks. When I listen to albums in any format I don't actually skip around all that much but I really like being able to choose a particular track as a starting point and let it play on from there.

I prefer albums.

Unless they play live every year in belgium

I’m a bit surprised there’s so much discussion about this throughout the various Ae communities 

Was EP7 the first time they played with “what does album really mean maaan?” or was it Quaristice? for the longest time I thought of everything from Exai through the ‘16-‘18 sets as one work, one album that kept expanding. up to Sign and Plus, that felt like a different strain or fork

I like it all. 

  On 10/23/2024 at 9:18 PM, cern said:

I think we need to discuss this because I can't wrap my head around this one. 

From Metal Magazine Sean said quote:

 

It seems like he have not even consider what a complete album means compare to their live sets in general. 

For me one album of them Is like a book with a story, It is that time and that moment they are perfectly laid out in a way to enjoy it track by track..piece by piece. 
The live sets is not the same tracks but rather that same sound in that era. It changes from set to set and is very enjoyable. To get the Soundboards is a bless but according to me it can not top a finished album in complete-ness. 

What are your thoughts? 

 

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I’ll forward this to them

It's cool to see them always changing/moving directions, but I would guess over time they will eventually get the itch to make another album.  

In my experience, real creative artists are best left to do what they want, and anyone engaging with that artist's work has the choice to either drop in and out with regards to how much they engage with what the artist is doing.  As soon as you have an artist bending to what their existing audience demands, you often start getting stagnant output.  

I want Autechre to do what they want to do, and I want to give everything they do a fair shake.  If I don't always get into it 100%, so what.  They have always been really exploratory in what they do, and it's highly unlikely that they will latch on to what they are doing right now and just repeat it for the rest of eternity.  To my mind there is a massive amount of variety in their output from Exai to now, and I think it would be silly to expect that to change.

at this point, if they ever return to album, I'd be ok with 20 minutes of stuff (under earache rec, not warp), but so concentrated and dense that to get into it I'd have to work my ears for a minimum of 15 years

when i think of autechre i think about HIP HOP

I love the live stuff. The amount of music we get from Ae is amazing, especially considering only paying once per bundle associated with a tour, which has more and more material all the time added to it, I daresay it feels almost like returns on the best investment out there. Sean more than humors/entertains our extreme fangirling/fanboying, the level of love between the musicians and their devoted listeners is better than any other musical act I can think of. Even taper friendly bands with many extensive tours like Phish or the Grateful Dead never even approached what Sean and Rob do for us all. TBH, many, if not all of these soundboards are even better sound quality than how these shows sounded in person, going back to the days of AE_LIVE.

With the huge glut of material and the backlog it creates, it is hard not to feel utterly spoiled. Because, well, we are. Sean does make a very good point in his interrogation of what counts as a studio album. But a point that doesn't necessarily address the issue of live recordings vs. albums. Whether "studio" or otherwise there remains something very desirable about format of the album itself. Even while sprawling (elseq 1-5's 4+ hours and NTS Session's ~8 hours rank highly among many of our userbase's favourites, myself included) the material released as albums often at least appear to have a higher degree of concision and focus to them, whether or not you can hold them in your hands.

So Mr. Booth, and presumably Mr. Brown with him (I would like to hear more from Rob tbh but I guess there's always one who's more talkative) are, at least for the moment less interested in the album as a format. That's fine and dandy, I'm thankful for getting what we do and I do not mean to look a gift horse in the mouth, but as suggested above, a corresponding elseq style album (the length of one of the five volumes) with each bundle would be something I'd be more than appreciative of.

*kanye west voice* "sean booth doesn't care about albums"

  On 10/26/2024 at 6:20 PM, splesh said:

especially considering only paying once per bundle associated with a tour, which has more and more material all the time added to it, I daresay it feels almost like returns on the best investment out there.

Not sure this will be the case. I'm pretty sure there will be an additional cost. My guess €1 extra per set when you already have the first batch, as it was with AE_LIVE.

  On 10/26/2024 at 6:20 PM, splesh said:

TBH, many, if not all of these soundboards are even better sound quality than how these shows sounded in person, going back to the days of AE_LIVE.

  On 10/26/2024 at 7:16 PM, t yst r said:

Not sure this will be the case. I'm pretty sure there will be an additional cost. My guess €1 extra per set when you already have the first batch, as was the case with AE_LIVE.

Ah, maybe so. Still, that's a relative pittance when you think about the amount of music in there.

Really curious if the new soundboards will sound different with the new recording equipment!

  On 10/26/2024 at 8:28 AM, DyeMyBlueBlack said:

I’ll forward this to them

I hope u do! 

..Like they care haha! My message sounds just like a whining AE-fan that is bit down about the album-news. All the AE-Albums means ALOT to me, WAY more than the Live-sets. 
Im still happy they are releasing their stuff. 

I think if they could cut the tracks down from a clean soundboard recording and make like compilation albums for Example: Chosen Lords by AFX. 
That would been really rad. 

i think there should be a thread of Sean dissing specific albums with incredible vitriol

"that drukqs album, it's quite good innit?"

  On 10/26/2024 at 9:41 PM, oscillik said:

"that drukqs album, it's quite good innit?"

lol. richard absolutely seething

  On 10/26/2024 at 9:41 PM, oscillik said:

"that drukqs album, it's quite good innit?"

“We don’t get along always but that pneumatic stuff is quite good”

  On 10/26/2024 at 10:00 PM, DyeMyBlueBlack said:

“We don’t get along always but that pneumatic stuff is quite good”

each time rdj releases a proper full-length album their relationship worsens a bit 

  On 10/26/2024 at 10:59 PM, xox said:

each time rdj releases a proper full-length album their relationship worsens a bit 

Mad rdj never responded to drane2