Guest sicone Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Hi All, This may sound like heresy but has anyone thought about "remaking" SAW 85-92. I think it's some of the yummiest music ever composed but as for the sound quality - yuk and we all know why: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selected_Ambient_Works_85-92 I've heard it said that the tape hiss and other artifacts are desirable on this album but I disagree. Certainly some of the "lo-fi" (no offence intended) sounds are very desirable but the tape hiss??? come on. I've done some experiments with noise reduction and frankly it's not the way ahead as it artifacts too much and does nothing to bring back the missing top end. I've come to the conclusion that the only way to do this is to remake the entire album as faithfully as possible. Obviously, what the "correct" mix should sound like is open to interpretation as nobody has heard what the top end ever sounded like originally (except the man himself) but.... Have you ever made a bassline or warm pad or blippy bleep in your home studio and thought "hey that sounds just like "Agiespolis" only cleaner". Maybe the "final" version of any track would end up being a collaboration - my bassline, your bleeps and Kate from Norway's beats. Maybe there will be no final version just an open source project without an end. Maybe the twin himself could judge entries. Maybe someone has suggested this before and I'm 10 years late to the party. Whatever - thoughts on a postcard please. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/14426-selected-ambient-works-85-92-the-remake/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest frogdog Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 wha?? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/14426-selected-ambient-works-85-92-the-remake/#findComment-293117 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaen Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 no Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaen's signature Hide all signatures trumps toe fungus Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/14426-selected-ambient-works-85-92-the-remake/#findComment-293119 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest novayshun Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 bye Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/14426-selected-ambient-works-85-92-the-remake/#findComment-293121 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alzado Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 die Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Alzado's signature Hide all signatures RIP Farm Eagle Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/14426-selected-ambient-works-85-92-the-remake/#findComment-293122 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaini Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 no, bye. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide kaini's signature Hide all signatures On 5/7/2013 at 11:06 PM, ambermonk said: I know IDM can be extreme On 6/3/2017 at 11:50 PM, ladalaika said: this sounds like an airplane landing on a minefield Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/14426-selected-ambient-works-85-92-the-remake/#findComment-293123 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josso Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 No, anyone attempting to remake it would fail miserably or ruin it. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Josso's signature Hide all signatures Visit My Site My Last.fm Page mosca said: you and me need to have a nice long chat little man Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/14426-selected-ambient-works-85-92-the-remake/#findComment-293124 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gump Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 should this not be in the twin sub forum or maybe it should just not exist at all Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/14426-selected-ambient-works-85-92-the-remake/#findComment-293125 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dinner at my house Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Dude are you like, evil Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/14426-selected-ambient-works-85-92-the-remake/#findComment-293126 Share on other sites More sharing options...
theocide Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 So stupid Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/14426-selected-ambient-works-85-92-the-remake/#findComment-293127 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest frogdog Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 to the Nonsense/Crap Thread Forum with ya Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/14426-selected-ambient-works-85-92-the-remake/#findComment-293130 Share on other sites More sharing options...
impakt Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Hahaha Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/14426-selected-ambient-works-85-92-the-remake/#findComment-293132 Share on other sites More sharing options...
perunamuusi Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 you fucking prick Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/14426-selected-ambient-works-85-92-the-remake/#findComment-293135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest novayshun Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 sicone said: Hi All, This may sound like heresy but has anyone thought about "remaking" SAW 85-92. I think it's some of the yummiest music ever composed but as for the sound quality - yuk and we all know why: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selected_Ambient_Works_85-92 I've heard it said that the tape hiss and other artifacts are desirable on this album but I disagree. Certainly some of the "lo-fi" (no offence intended) sounds are very desirable but the tape hiss??? come on. I've done some experiments with noise reduction and frankly it's not the way ahead as it artifacts too much and does nothing to bring back the missing top end. I've come to the conclusion that the only way to do this is to remake the entire album as faithfully as possible. Obviously, what the "correct" mix should sound like is open to interpretation as nobody has heard what the top end ever sounded like originally (except the man himself) but.... Have you ever made a bassline or warm pad or blippy bleep in your home studio and thought "hey that sounds just like "Agiespolis" only cleaner". Maybe the "final" version of any track would end up being a collaboration - my bassline, your bleeps and Kate from Norway's beats. Maybe there will be no final version just an open source project without an end. Maybe the twin himself could judge entries. Maybe someone has suggested this before and I'm 10 years late to the party. Whatever - thoughts on a postcard please. who the fuck do you think you are?? George Lucas?? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/14426-selected-ambient-works-85-92-the-remake/#findComment-293140 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Moss Acid Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 thats a great idea NOT!!!!!!!!!! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/14426-selected-ambient-works-85-92-the-remake/#findComment-293141 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chim Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 novayshun said: sicone said: Hi All, This may sound like heresy but has anyone thought about "remaking" SAW 85-92. I think it's some of the yummiest music ever composed but as for the sound quality - yuk and we all know why: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selected_Ambient_Works_85-92 I've heard it said that the tape hiss and other artifacts are desirable on this album but I disagree. Certainly some of the "lo-fi" (no offence intended) sounds are very desirable but the tape hiss??? come on. I've done some experiments with noise reduction and frankly it's not the way ahead as it artifacts too much and does nothing to bring back the missing top end. I've come to the conclusion that the only way to do this is to remake the entire album as faithfully as possible. Obviously, what the "correct" mix should sound like is open to interpretation as nobody has heard what the top end ever sounded like originally (except the man himself) but.... Have you ever made a bassline or warm pad or blippy bleep in your home studio and thought "hey that sounds just like "Agiespolis" only cleaner". Maybe the "final" version of any track would end up being a collaboration - my bassline, your bleeps and Kate from Norway's beats. Maybe there will be no final version just an open source project without an end. Maybe the twin himself could judge entries. Maybe someone has suggested this before and I'm 10 years late to the party. Whatever - thoughts on a postcard please. who the fuck do you think you are?? George Lucas?? LOL also, for instance, part of why Xtal is so fucking great is because of the way the tape stuff affects the sound Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/14426-selected-ambient-works-85-92-the-remake/#findComment-293145 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred McGriff Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 worst dupe ever p.s. crap analogy skytree sorry Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/14426-selected-ambient-works-85-92-the-remake/#findComment-293148 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bfs Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 yeah...like...whatever...bro... Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/14426-selected-ambient-works-85-92-the-remake/#findComment-293149 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest novayshun Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Fred McGriff said: worst dupe ever p.s. crap analogy skytree sorry exactly, the bible is just a silly book. we are talking about a historic work of art. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/14426-selected-ambient-works-85-92-the-remake/#findComment-293152 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicone Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Popular idea it seems - so, when do we start. Maybe you're all just afraid of how turned on you are right now. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/14426-selected-ambient-works-85-92-the-remake/#findComment-293153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
tec Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 You have ruined the day for many WATMM'ers, and in my opinion, the entire year. Someone please ban him before he comes up with any other suggestions. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide tec's signature Hide all signatures "They're about guns, lasers, robots with laser guns in space. Monsters from the future. Explosions. Sylvester Stallone doing a backflip on top of a spike while Robocop carries a ghost up a mountain. Bombs and swords and that... IDM is awesome." Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/14426-selected-ambient-works-85-92-the-remake/#findComment-293162 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dreddy Schwager Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 sicone said: Maybe you're all just afraid of how turned on you are right now. Dupe. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/14426-selected-ambient-works-85-92-the-remake/#findComment-293165 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shockerbrown Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 frogdog said: wha?? kaen said: no novayshun said: bye LOL Alzado said: die kaini said: no, bye. Josso said: No, anyone attempting to remake it would fail miserably or ruin it. Gump said: should this not be in the twin sub forum or maybe it should just not exist at all dinner at my house said: Dude are you like, evil theocide said: So stupid LUDD said: you fucking prick lol Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/14426-selected-ambient-works-85-92-the-remake/#findComment-293168 Share on other sites More sharing options...
perunamuusi Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Sicone has brought us together, unified by our common repulsion to his idiocy and for that he should be commended and then burnt to death and then banned Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/14426-selected-ambient-works-85-92-the-remake/#findComment-293170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sicone Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Dreddy Schwager said: sicone said: Maybe you're all just afraid of how turned on you are right now. Dupe. What does dupe mean? LUDD said: Sicone has brought us together, unified by our common repulsion to his idiocy and for that he should be commended and then burnt to death and then banned I can tell you want me Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/14426-selected-ambient-works-85-92-the-remake/#findComment-293171 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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