Selected Ambient Works 85-92 - The Remake

hello sicone id like to personally apologise for the morons having a go at you. carry on.

hello weetabix.. want to be on faggy quotes? again?

i don't mind being a fag if it brings young fresh idmers to watmm. .

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Don't worry about me weetabix - i enjoy being rubbed up the wrong way by homophobes

  sicone said:

Don't worry about me weetabix - i enjoy being rubbed up the wrong way by homophobes

rhâââ! u're welcome here sicone! ;-)

I posted a msg on this thread yesterday which was about 7+ msgs down... all it simply said was 'feel the love'. now it has vanished. ??? perhaps I should have verbally shorned sicones choad instead. anyhow, this has been one of the funnier threads in a while.

whoops, nevermind, I didn't see the similar thread a few down. wtf?

its ok to make mistakes you just need to learn afterwards

Is there any way to take out the tape hiss without redoing it completeley?

  green_calx said:

Is there any way to take out the tape hiss without redoing it completeley?

There are lots of noise reduction techniques and I have a fair bit of audio restoration experience and in my opinion it could not be done satisfactorily. Either you would be left with hiss or the desired signal would be altered "unpleasantly". Anyway, hiss isn't the only issue. The higher frequencies of the tracks are plain missing and although it would be a mistake to make the remake very sparkly, clearly (in my opinion) there was more there (composed by Aphex Twin) that we're not hearing.

Lets be clear - RDJ did not compose (nor engineer or whatever you want to call it) the hiss. It was an unwanted side effect of poor mastering.

Someone suggested a remix album would be less sacreligious but for me it is exactly because every note is so perfectly composed that it needs remastering not remixing. Unfortunately i assume remastering is not possible as the original equipment and files etc are no doubt long gone (anyone looked into this?). However, faithful reengineering is possible (maybe) and I think it's worth a shot. I understand I am in the minority but if anyone wants to give it a go I for one would look forward to hearing any attempts. Unfortunatley I lack the talent to do it myself.

Abuse aside, I was fairly disappointed by the dogmatic responses (obviously). Lets hear what people can come up with before dismissing it as shit.

Nah. It's better with the hiss. It's not even hiss, it's just texture. Makes it more chill, adds nostalgia.

But I doubt anyone'd remaster it. It's fine.

  green_calx said:

Is there any way to take out the tape hiss without redoing it completeley?

B7

  Thisket said:

Nah. It's better with the hiss. It's not even hiss, it's just texture.

So no doubt whenever you listen to SAW II you add a bit of cassette hiss in to get that same "texture" you love so much. Face it - it was a mistake.

Anyway - how can you say it's better when you haven't heard the alternative?

HI,

I think the tape hiss melds sounds together in tracks like xtal. What sounds like one sound is actually 3 sounds put together. Like the breathy vocals. Xtal is a track that even my sister's friends enjoy.

  sicone said:

  Thisket said:

Nah. It's better with the hiss. It's not even hiss, it's just texture.

 

So no doubt whenever you listen to SAW II you add a bit of cassette hiss in to get that same "texture" you love so much. Face it - it was a mistake.

 

Anyway - how can you say it's better when you haven't heard the alternative?

thanks but i like it the way it is

  jedy hairy balls said:

thanks but i like it the way it is

me too

  jedy hairy balls said:

thanks but i like it the way it is

If you like it the way it is, it doesn't sound like you're the "target audience".

Um, how exactly are analog tape artifacts accidents? Its the nature of the medium and are in fact well sought after within the digital realm. To put it simply: Analog = warm, Digital = cold (but getting warmer)

You could take out the hiss but it wouldn't really be worth it for the ammount on SAW (very little to be honest). You'd possibly loose quite a lot of that yummy bass or other specific frequencies. Really not worth touching it at all.

here is my re doing of ageispolis

i hope this proves its a bad idea

  chris moss acid said:

here is my re doing of ageispolis

 

i hope this proves its a bad idea

Wow, you really brought out all the harmonics, so warm yet, so... moderne!

In all seriousness though, this has been done before. Kraftwerk supposedly spent years cleaning up all their albums for the Catalog box set. State of the art techniques and all that. And while it sounds great in the car, they just fucked with it too much - you can hear the processing. The box set remains unreleased. Noise reduction is generally horrible. I'd rather have analog dirt, over digital dirt.

  sicone said:

  Thisket said:

Nah. It's better with the hiss. It's not even hiss, it's just texture.

 

So no doubt whenever you listen to SAW II you add a bit of cassette hiss in to get that same "texture" you love so much. Face it - it was a mistake.

 

Anyway - how can you say it's better when you haven't heard the alternative?

why do people ADD hissing noise to ambient tracks today then?

  chris moss acid said:

here is my re doing of ageispolis

 

i hope this proves its a bad idea

It sounds very Xmassy Chris!

My housemate came in during the ending and said it sounds "cool", maybe there's a future for this dreadful idea, who knows

i see what people mean about the tape hiss on Xtal.

i never noticed before,just sounded like falling water.

  chris moss acid said:

here is my re doing of ageispolis

 

i hope this proves its a bad idea

:laughing:

Point proven.

  chris moss acid said:

here is my re doing of ageispolis

 

i hope this proves its a bad idea

yeah,i think we should leave SAW85-92 as is.

didnt't sound half bad though.