Is it socially unacceptable to play live...

why bother? hello, at least for the experience of it. he wants his music to be heard just like the rest of us. don't pass up a chance.

it wouldnt bother me if i were watching.

i would shit all over the place if i had to poop

AMAZING!! never really heard anything like it, apart from when Nigel Benn used to DJ.

i can appreciate wanting to get heard but what on earth are you talking about. The term is generally known as playing "LIVE". which means having an effect on the music in real time.

The fact that you have a gig, and there are thousands of people working their arses off trying to create a reasonable live show that can't ever get the chance to play live is toss.

Do something or do nothing at all, its that simple. And sorry to be negative, im not being hostile its just frustrating as hell, when people use brain power and physical energy to be creative and others get a gig for doing none of that.

do your gig entirely in semaphore

there's a simple economic driver here.. if you get the chance to play live, take it. even it the only thing you can do is simply be there while your music is pumping out of the PA. Not ideal of course, but the brutal truth is - it helps a great deal when it comes to selling records, if people have actually heard your music. A gig is a good place to get this happening. If it's good material, you probably will sell a few CDs etc. Plus they go home 'aware' of you and might later go out and buy your stuff or at worst recommend you to their friends.

Hiding away in the bedroom just because you feel you can't manipulate the sound in a live fashion up to a level that meets the approval of your internet music forum peers is bollocks.

Don't be afraid. If you've made the music and someone is giving you the chance to play it loud to a crowd of people - go for it. You'll probably find that it gives you the confidence to actually start manipulating what the crowd hears anyway.

Don't listen to some of the overly negative sniping here.

^----wise words

I agree with you in many respects ism, but the fact of the matter is you are not playing live, therefore dont call it a live performance. Simple as that.

I dont think you should do it to someone elses standards, cos those are varying and simply subjective, but it should be a creative process whereby you have at least some interaction with what you are doing.

Alot of DJ's get stik for "just playing other peoples records" but they spend the time to sew them together in a creative manner therefore making it a performance of some sort, and involving an emotional connection.

Simply hitting play, is not under any circumstances a performance, it is something that rudimentary machine from the 1800's could do, just set some weights and a timer to hit the space bar when your set begins.

I know its a good way to get records sold and get publicity which is never a bad thing. And if this gig is last minute and you cant get anything together well cool, its hard to geta live set sorted in a few days. But not doing it cos "i dont like CPU's" is one of the most bizarre things i have ever heard.

good luck to you Thisket i hope your career goes well, but surely you know that its a Jip and its other people you are Jipping?

  mrx said:

sounds like the worst show ever

agreed.

this topic has pissed me off more and more as of late. i too used to be guilty of just a few knob twiddles with a midi controller in ableton and calling it a day.

do your fucking homework.

Well, to clear a few things up this isn't MY OWN show. TO be brutally and shamefully honest, it's a "battle of the bands" type thing the college I go to is having. I know, I know - so gross, so gay.

I get to play two songs, but I'm opting for one, on account of I'll most likely be the only "electronic" person there. I don't make music with a computer. I hate software. I make it with a lot of hardware controlled by other hardware. I'm not about to try and hurriedly bring a carload of things onto a stage and set up in 5 minutes. Also, I don't have a car or that many friends. It'd be easier just to have a laptop as a "player".

I can understand some of you being infuriated (I might be as well), but I'm not getting paid and might even get shot or something. I'm not even going to plug any records or anything - maybe just a website in the "handbill". I didn't mention all of this cause I guess I wanted honest opinions.

Let the barrage begin, or end. Whatev, damn. Sorry I got some of you so mad.

just fuckin play guitar, or set up a mic and try singing over your tracks lol

I sold my old guitar for drum machines recently

ka-blam

that makes it more acceptable, actually.

if people were paying to see you, that would be pathetic.

i'm more bothered by your attitude about it than anything else.

if you're too lazy to spend 5 minutes with audiomulch, or something, what the fuck would you do if someone actually liked your music and wanted you to do more?!

i don't know about many people who have made it in music by being lazy... even the really sucky no-talent artists have to put in work at some point.

  Thisket said:

I sold my old guitar for drum machines recently

 

ka-blam

This is prolly my most favorite quote in this forum, ever.

Ha ha, wow - I'm honored, Mr. LJG. :embrassed: But yeah, I did that a few weeks ago and am not regretting it in the least.

But my attitude stems from my fear that these rock-'n'-roll Sufjan Stevens might boo me off stage. I'm really not going to fit in, so I figured I'd need to make it impersonal and strange.

If you are only going to push play, at least dance around in a hot dog costume.

ah ffs, if you think about it, your basically just pressing play like a wav file when you open up say ableton and run the tune all broken up. Ive lost alot of my analysis files, so if i were to do a gig, I would cut up all my songs and mix them up a little. in real time i'd just take some sort of effects unit with me to the gig, like someone previously said in this topic the kaoss pad or something, and just make sick effects over your tunes live.

Don't you think you'd feel stupid just sitting there? If anything it would make rock fans hate electronic music even more

"Man that electro shit, all you do is spend 70 hours in your room in front of a monitor and program, where's the spirit, where's the fun" You'll just perpetuate that stereotype.

Also, I'm in agreement with the "guitar for drum machines" quote's epicness.

I am enthused, I like to play live when I can.

I know no one's gonna "love" it, and I might even get thrown off or something, but it's a chance to play live, so...

And yes I'm not a band and yes I like the idea of confusing and putting people off. Imagine: metallica cover, nirvana cover, awfully-written and sung song on acoustic, laptop boy with beard, too-fat kid screams loudly about girlfriend...

I've never even played in a conventional gig - just taking chances when they come. And I'm not about to go on down to the disco-club for 80s nite and try to play something.

Besides - grand prize is $100 gift certificate to guitar center yeeeahh

  Thisket said:

Besides - grand prize is $100 gift certificate to guitar center yeeeahh

Awesome, you'll be able to afford a guitar pick and 3 midi cables!

Jesus christ I don't understand why you people are comming down so hard on the guy. Nobody is going to know what he's doing up there regardless. It will all be black voodoo magic to them. Please get a grip and come down from your "Well, you could custom map a midi performance program to an Eiderol midi controller" high horses. Nobody there will know the difference either way. He could play with MS Paint on his laptop while and Fischer Price My First Casette Player pumps out the tunes from under the table and nobody would notice. Please lighten up.

Yeah, exactly. I know they won't know what I'm doing. I'm in a southern USA state school - nobodee knows whut a synthesizer is. At least someone isn't popping blood vessels over this. ;)

Keytar

Opinions. I don't really get on here often and examine what the "internal essence" of watmm is about, so I thought I'd ask. It's not like anyone's paying you to reply to stuff ;). But I am sorry for getting you mad, ieafs, as you've been nice to me before.

But yes, I did consider keytars.

the overwhelming majority of "electronic music" "performers" hit play on abelton live and pretend to exert lots of control over the music by furrowed brow mouse clicking expressions.

welcome to the world of half assed electronic music

youll be fine