Richard D James > Drukqs

  stolemb said:

  Ghostbusters III said:

  Velazquez said:

I think I'm in the minority here but I feel the RDJ album is far superior. Drukqs has its moments but the RDJ albums flows much better and is not as disjointed.

 

yeah im in fully agreement. I never saw Drukqs as a real album, its more of a compilation of unreleased tracks to me. It even sounds like unreleased stuff from I care and Saw II got on there. The piano tracks are very forgettable, and the prepared piano tracks are unforgivably pretentious and boring. The crazy drill tracks are gold, and it would be the best AFX album if it was just 1 disc instead of the filler 2.

 

the fact that Drukqs is an unecessary filler 2 entire discs, most of Aphex Twins full albums stand up superior to it. I would rate Hangable Autobulb, Analog bubblebath 3, I care because you do, Saw II, Richard D James, Donkey Rhubarb, Melodies from mars all as better more well rounded complete works than the finished product of Drukqs.

 

and for those of you who say "all the tracks fit on drukqs" , you would say the same thing if your favorite electronic musician recorded him making flatulences on half the tracks. People would think it was grea t and integral to the flow of the album. Drukqs as it stands is an extremely disjointed album. If this was his intention to have jarring track changes fine, but it doesnt work for me. the only way i can tolerate listening to Drukqs is by makign my own custom mix cd of it

 

Not again ffs. Its saying "yeah im in fully agreement. I never saw Drukqs as a real album, its more of a compilation of unreleased tracks to me. It even sounds like unreleased stuff from I care and Saw II got on there" a fuckin trend?

 

I don't see how anyone would say those tracks are unreleased stuff from (AND SOUNDS LIKE, FFS??') "stuff from I care and Saw II".

 

Now I quote myself:

 

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Seriously, anyone believing that "I LOST MAE MP3 WITH 99999999999 SONGS ON A PLANE" fails. Also you fail if you believe that Drukqs is just random MP3 "thrown randomly because im afraid of the guy that has the lost ipod because he can release it on the internets". Aphex worked an insanely amount of time, and put an insanely amount of effort on every single track. IMO I don't believe he has lots of "unreleased" stuff that sounds like that, due to the amount of time a track like those would take to make.

 

Again, make a proper listen to Drukqs, CD1+CD2 straight, nigth, quality headphones, alone etc. Like someone said, "its the only way". I recommend you this since diagnost says: u dun geddit

i will point by point explain why this album is not my favorite

songs that seem to be old tracks :

Gwely Mernans = sounds like an outtake from SAW II

Bbydhyonchord = sounds like an outtake from Come to daddy or melodies from mars

Orban Eq Trx 4 = sounds straight off of I care because you do or Ventolin remixes

what i consider filler tracks that distract me from the flow of the album completely :

Gwarek 2 = jarring

Aussois = jarring

Btoum-Roumada = sounds like an improvised organ solo

Penty Harmomium = sounds like an improvised organ/harmonium solo

Lornaderek = kind of funny

Bit 4 = fm synth masturbation through reverb

i actually like most of the piano stuff, its just these short filler like tracks that seem to distract from the album as a whole. The aphex albums im most into have a continuous flow with not much noisey or short interludes. If the album did not have any of the tracks i just mentioned it very well could be the best aphex twin album.

Both albums are amazing but Drukqs gets my own personal vote for best.

I love all the faster stuff and the piano/experimental stuff across both discs.

It also definitely doesn't feel like a compilation of unreleased material to me.

well in an interview richard said he tought of drukqs as an mp3 album. a big collection of tracks from which everyone could build his own playlist.

personally, i prefer that chaotic style drukqs holds over those happy melodies on rdj album. dont get me wrong, rdj album is well good, but i get more of a buzz putting on 54 cymru beats than fingerbib :angry: ofcourse getting a certain kick out of a song doesn't mean it's better than something which is more toned down....

  GORDO said:

well in an interview richard said he tought of drukqs as an mp3 album. a big collection of tracks from which everyone could build his own playlist.

yes and then there was that curiously telling rumor aphex spread about someone finding an mp3 player with a bunch of songs on it in a plane. And that he released it all as 'Drukqs' to prempt any leaks on the internet coming out. I think this is a fabrication but it may be his idea of a way to rationalize (to the public and maybe even to himself) why the album does not sound like a continuously flowing piece of work intended to be a full album and not a compilation of tracks.

Does anyone even listen to full albums any more? If I can get through one song without skipping ahead I feel like I've earned my scooby snack.

  fleetmouse said:

Does anyone even listen to full albums any more? If I can get through one song without skipping ahead I feel like I've earned my scooby snack.

only if ive listened to it past the point

of decency. ive listened to go plastic

so many times i sometimes skip the

first half. i dont skip the drukqs hard

tracks remaster though. or any ae. in

cidentally i treat later-era ae like a stu

dy session usually & paying attention.

i try to buy records by artists that main

tain one style throughout their record,

preferably drillnbass. for example, i do

skip alot of atol scrap for tascel7s sake.

  fleetmouse said:

Does anyone even listen to full albums any more? If I can get through one song without skipping ahead I feel like I've earned my scooby snack.

come to think of it, you're right!

It depends on what it is. Most autechre doesnt lend itself to being skipped around on. I think Aphex's albums could be much easier skipped around on. RDJ has a lot of single type songs. I can easily listen to RDJ without Goon Gumpas, but I cant listen to Confield without anything.

  fleetmouse said:

Does anyone even listen to full albums any more?

Yeah, all the time.

when i'm sitting about listening to music i usually start off with a playlist of about 20 minutes or so of tunes that i'm really into right now, then i'll add full albums or EPs to my playlist and normally listen to them straight through.

you really don't need that much of an attention span to get through a full release :)

I always listen to full albums all the time, probably why I think Drukqs is the inferior disc.

Drukqs flows perfect and its better than anything else. If you still don't agree, go listen to it with high end headphones at night. CD1 then CD2, the whole album. Obviously use the original, perfectly selected playlist.

Deal with facts!

  stolemb said:

Obviously use the original, perfectly selected playlist.

 

Deal with facts!

But there are two different official released tracklists.

cd / vinyl

1. Jynweythek / Jynweythek
2. Vordhosbn / Vordhosbn
3. Kladfvgbung Micshk / Kladfvgbung Micshk
4. Omgyjya Switch7 / Strotha Tynhe
5. Strotha Tynhe / Omgyjya Switch7
6. Gwely Mernans / Gwely Mernans
7. Bbydhyonchord / Cock/Ver10
8. Cock / Ver 10 / Bbydhyonchord
9. Avril 14th / Orban Eq Trx4
10. Mt. Saint Michel + Saint. Michaels Mount / Mt Saint Michel Mix+St Michaels Mount
11. Gwarek2 / Beskhu3epnm
12. Orban Eq Trax4 / Aussois
13. Aussios / Hy A Scullyas Lyf A Dhagrow
14. Hy A Scullyas Lyf A Dhagrow / Kesson Daslef
15. Kesson Dalef / Avril 14Th
16. 54cymru Beats / Gwarek2
17. Btoum-Roumada / 54 Cymru Beats
18. Lornaderek / Btoum-Roumada
19. Qkthr / Lornaderek
20. Meltphace 6 / Penty Harmonium
21. Bit4 / Prep Gwarlek 36
22. Prep Qwarlek 3b / Father
23. Father / Petiatil Cx Htdui
24. Taking Control / Meltphace 6
25. Petiatil Cx Htdui / Bit4
26. Ruglen Holon / Taking Control
27. Afx237 V7 / Ruglen Holon
28. Ziggomatic 17 / Afx237 V7
29. Beskhu3epnm / Ziggomatic V17
30. Nanou2 / Nanou2

Personnally I think the vinyl tracklist, especially spread out on eight plates, makes much much more sense.

  aencre said:

  stolemb said:

Obviously use the original, perfectly selected playlist.

 

Deal with facts!

 

But there are two different official released tracklists.

 

cd / vinyl

1. Jynweythek / Jynweythek
2. Vordhosbn / Vordhosbn
3. Kladfvgbung Micshk / Kladfvgbung Micshk
4. Omgyjya Switch7 / Strotha Tynhe
5. Strotha Tynhe / Omgyjya Switch7
6. Gwely Mernans / Gwely Mernans
7. Bbydhyonchord / Cock/Ver10
8. Cock / Ver 10 / Bbydhyonchord
9. Avril 14th / Orban Eq Trx4
10. Mt. Saint Michel + Saint. Michaels Mount / Mt Saint Michel Mix+St Michaels Mount
11. Gwarek2 / Beskhu3epnm
12. Orban Eq Trax4 / Aussois
13. Aussios / Hy A Scullyas Lyf A Dhagrow
14. Hy A Scullyas Lyf A Dhagrow / Kesson Daslef
15. Kesson Dalef / Avril 14Th
16. 54cymru Beats / Gwarek2
17. Btoum-Roumada / 54 Cymru Beats
18. Lornaderek / Btoum-Roumada
19. Qkthr / Lornaderek
20. Meltphace 6 / Penty Harmonium
21. Bit4 / Prep Gwarlek 36
22. Prep Qwarlek 3b / Father
23. Father / Petiatil Cx Htdui
24. Taking Control / Meltphace 6
25. Petiatil Cx Htdui / Bit4
26. Ruglen Holon / Taking Control
27. Afx237 V7 / Ruglen Holon
28. Ziggomatic 17 / Afx237 V7
29. Beskhu3epnm / Ziggomatic V17
30. Nanou2 / Nanou2

Personnally I think the vinyl tracklist, especially spread out on eight plates, makes much much more sense.

is the vinyl version hard to find? i do like the sound of that track list a lot better actually.

  stolemb said:

Drukqs flows perfect and its better than anything else. If you still don't agree, go listen to it with high end headphones at night. CD1 then CD2, the whole album. Obviously use the original, perfectly selected playlist.

 

Deal with facts!

I disagree.

  Velazquez said:

  stolemb said:

Drukqs flows perfect and its better than anything else. If you still don't agree, go listen to it with high end headphones at night. CD1 then CD2, the whole album. Obviously use the original, perfectly selected playlist.

 

Deal with facts!

I disagree.

Repeat the process. If you still don't get it, then give up, you are not worth the Drukqs.

  stolemb said:

  Velazquez said:

  stolemb said:

Drukqs flows perfect and its better than anything else. If you still don't agree, go listen to it with high end headphones at night. CD1 then CD2, the whole album. Obviously use the original, perfectly selected playlist.

 

Deal with facts!

I disagree.

 

Repeat the process. If you still don't get it, then give up, you are not worth the Drukqs.

...I care because you do >[Richard D James > Drukqs]

  Ghostbusters III said:

is the vinyl version hard to find? i do like the sound of that track list a lot better actually.

nah not particularly - http://www.discogs.com/sell/list?release_id=13966

it pops up on ebay a lot too, might be cheaper going via ebay

i bought my copy from someone selling it on discogs for about 30 quid i think

i don't think it generally sells much cheaper than that though, you might get lucky on ebay, but there's generally quite a lot of interest in aphex twin items that pop up on there (at least in my experience, and "aphex twin" is stored as one of my favourite searches on my ebay account). you can get really cheap aphex CDs on ebay (like 2 quid a shot), but the vinyl stuff generally attracts a lot of interest.

oh and i should have said this in my last post but ziggomatic is seriously one of the best tunes ever made :)

ill endecoize some mp3s at 64 kbps and ill lend some nice headphones for you all to listen to these albums on an ipod....prefereably with a couple of adaptions throughout the connection process and the files will undergo a digital bounce copy several hundred times compressed and burnt to cd compressed represeed expressed enough

then well listen, maybe on some laptop speakers then

then

come