The Metasonix Wretch - idm in a box?

  metasonix said:

. I won't post any of that, because in the final analysis, WATMM is basically a marginal fansite and doesn't really deserve more attention.

LOL way to prove that fact by coming on the fucking board and whining about people not liking your products

jesus christ internets is some hilarous shit sometimes.

i don't dislike the stuff you release man, im just surprised you took the bait and spent the energy posting that here. You present all these tough hard as nails bad ass products like 'scrotum smasher' sheesh man id expect youd have a little bit thicker skin!

this reminds me of a quote i heard once: "it's only the internet"

  metasonix said:

Oh, you want musical demos of the Wretch? Try the new Nine Inch Nails albums, it's all over them.

does this crack anyone else up? i make better 'music' on the shitter.

look: you're right cant anyone talk shit on it until they get one but that will never happen bc im sure everyone on this board can think of a lot better shit to spend 2500 on

ha, and yeah, you so got busted vanity searching

  Joyrex said:

requoting the metasonix guy :

One of your heroes, Richard James, owns basically everything we've ever made.

 

Unlike some of your members, Richard is not a pathetic gear whore, so he doesn't go around bragging about his collection, nor about how little money he paid for it. He apparently does use the stuff, though.

i just find this statement rather ironic especially when describing a musician who

A) just released a series of 12" singles where half of them had as the center sticker art an obscure very old piece of analogue synthesizer gear (stuff that most middle class income level people could never obtain ) and was titled 'Analord' implying that whoever made these series of singles was a 'lord' at analogue gear. Bragging? not there is anything wrong with bragging but literally you are the first person i've heard make a statement to the effect of 'richard doesnt brag about his gear'. shit if i was him i'd brag too.

B) on Confederation Trough the most solid hint dropped on leading one to believe it was created by RDJ was the title of song 3, GX-1 solo. An extremely rare analogue synthesizer that Aphex Twin has gone on record as owning. If i had one of those too i might be tempted to name a song after it just to make my fans drool with envy.

lol @ thread

  hahathhat said:

  James Fucking Cagney said:

Internet opinions are important to business synergy.

 

i know you're being flip, but if you sell all your stuff over the net, they can actually matter...

Whoa, and here I was thinking opinions only matter in the real-world marketplace.

ERIC BARBOUR IS A N00B TROLL ASSHAT

oh and also, internet.

why does he take so easily to criticism.

dunno why everyone is hating on this thing - sure it makes some rubbish sounds in some hands but one or two of the samples go some way to sounding like a hammond novachord and that's definitely a good thing.

i wish i had the gear to try out hearing what the difference between pure tube oscillators and a regular circuit based VCO with tube distortion on it is like. (since the latter is easier and probably cheaper to do, although metasonix also seem to do a module that's a pure tube VCO and isn't hugely more pricy than a regular VCO module). i expect there's quite a difference, but which way is better?!

i don't like the distortion when it's full on but i love the juuust breaking up sounds. if i was extremely wealthy i'd buy 3-5 of these and use minimal distortion (which i think to many folk would defeat the purpose!) and make epic slightly broken sounding sci-fi pads all day. in my castle.

edit - actually i think i misread stuff and the metasonix thing is actually a tube distortion module.. it's late and i am falling asleep...

edit again -no they do both and i changed pages by accident...

  greenbank said:

dunno why everyone is hating on this thing - sure it makes some rubbish sounds in some hands but one or two of the samples go some way to sounding like a hammond novachord and that's definitely a good thing.

The not breathing guy has like 2 demos where it's not quite distorting and it's just harmonically enriching, and they sound great. Like how I thought a tube based synth would sound. I want to know if the annoying "dood extreem toob distorto intensity" thing is inherent to the device or if it's just the (poor) musical taste of the demo makers coming through.

  greenbank said:

i wish i had the gear to try out hearing what the difference between pure tube oscillators and a regular circuit based VCO with tube distortion on it is like.

Yeah same here. First you have the question of whether tube at end of signal path distorts different to tube elsewhere in signal path, and then you have the bigger question of whether it's different ENOUGH to shell out $2,500 for.

Also, with a modular or semi modular (MS20), you can patch in your tube anywhere in the signal path anyhow.

It's a funny concept, but it's just so loud and grungy that it can only be used for drum'n'bass and extreme techno imo.

  greenbank said:

dunno why everyone is hating on this thing - sure it makes some rubbish sounds in some hands but one or two of the samples go some way to sounding like a hammond novachord and that's definitely a good thing.

i'm not hating on it! i'm not even sure everyone else is either, i think this is more a case of a bunch of people standing around a flanger saying I CAN'T GET REVERB OUT OF THIS THING I HATE IT.

also, it's expensive, we're poor, and in the face of expensive things, we blame them for our poorness. it's psychologically easier to accept than blaming yourself.

also, eric barbour is a n00b troll asshat. :kiss:

  analogue wings said:

The not breathing guy has like 2 demos where it's not quite distorting and it's just harmonically enriching, and they sound great. Like how I thought a tube based synth would sound. I want to know if the annoying "dood extreem toob distorto intensity" thing is inherent to the device or if it's just the (poor) musical taste of the demo makers coming through.

whoa, whoa, he owns some metasonix stuff, has cloned it, but a most/all of his tube synths are different from metasonix's wrech machine! don't compare apples to oranges... i'm not even sure he uses the same tubes.

  analogue wings said:

  greenbank said:

i wish i had the gear to try out hearing what the difference between pure tube oscillators and a regular circuit based VCO with tube distortion on it is like.

 

Yeah same here. First you have the question of whether tube at end of signal path distorts different to tube elsewhere in signal path, and then you have the bigger question of whether it's different ENOUGH to shell out $2,500 for.

 

Also, with a modular or semi modular (MS20), you can patch in your tube anywhere in the signal path anyhow.

to me, they sound like meat and hiss, toasted.

WAI SO SRS?!

in order to return to seriousness, may i present this 420x420 image of SERIOUS SYNTHESIS TECHNOLOGY:

* Trent Reznor used one when he was 5!!

* Aphex Twin owns one (like every other synth on the market), we're not sure if he actually uses it!!

* Some crazy guy in the desert built a clone from the schematics!!

Amen Break not included.

that was a cool trick joyrex, now get Albini to join watmm!!

we have to make a thread that starts out entirely complimentary, but then degenrates to comments about how he's really good but not good enough to justify his price... then he'll be insulted enough to accidently find us during the launch of a new search engine, try to register for watmm and fail...

  hahathhat said:

we have to make a thread that starts out entirely complimentary, but then degenrates to comments about how he's really good but not good enough to justify his price... then he'll be insulted enough to accidently find us during the launch of a new search engine, try to register for watmm and fail...

imagine how awesome this world would be if he would have kept going with Roland after big black instead of starting a regular old caveman guitar band. oh but we built all our amps. that's great, it's still only just angular indie rock coming out of them.

  goodwillsidis said:

  hahathhat said:

we have to make a thread that starts out entirely complimentary, but then degenrates to comments about how he's really good but not good enough to justify his price... then he'll be insulted enough to accidently find us during the launch of a new search engine, try to register for watmm and fail...

 

imagine how awesome this world would be if he would have kept going with Roland after big black instead of starting a regular old caveman guitar band. oh but we built all our amps. that's great, it's still only just angular indie rock coming out of them.

woah woah woah..i know this thread is older than life itself...but did you just call Rapeman and Shellac "angular indie rock"?

  goodwillsidis said:

that was a cool trick joyrex, now get Albini to join watmm!!

he prefers poker forums

^ wow, this is awesome

i know 8)

steve seems like a really cool down-to-earth guy

but i sorta assumed that already