Autechre Autechre.. totally different live?

I've just listened to 'live at lees palace, april 12, 2008' all the way through (think I got the link from these forums), seriously this is the autechre I love, it's the electronic music that I especially enjoy and feel is best encapsulated by autechre..

It's just, why can't they sell their live sets?.. I really need a high quality version of these - it's the music that is actually really good with brilliant grooves - hardly anyone does that these days, only a tiny few and usually they are surrounded by useless other "special electronic music effects"..

I have some autechre live sets much better quality which I too got from here, but it's not enough dammit.

i got your vibe , have you listened to Mcr Quarter ???? if not roll a big fucken joint and listen to that shit with a big ass stereo system

yea man, muchly agreed. it would be amazing to hear a soundboard recording.. though a live release doesn't seem likely. there's something about this last tour that has extreme replay value.. it's just really rich stuff with a lot of depth.

the L.A. show is good quality too.

I think their live stuff is the best electronic music going. Full stop. Why they won't release it is beyond me. It's a crying shame. If they split up either of their last two tour set in to an album format, it'd be head and shoulders above any of their LPs in my daily playlist.

just cut the sets up in to tracks and burn.. but yea.. that doesn't really.. do          it         i know.

Yeah, totally agree with you guys .. I was thinking either of these two options:

Master the fuck out of the sets to make a nice cut-up play list with individual tracks as separate mp3's belonging to a zip file.

Actually go over the music to pretty much re-do the best songs that seem to be unreleased (lots of the tracks on the mix I listed in my first post I hadn't heard before).. It wouldn't be *that* hard, depending on how good the person is at music and overall quality of the music. I wouldn't say I'm capable, it wouldn't be half as good.

Maybe they dont release it 'coz as a live show Ae has nothing to show, just some sounds to offer. So in order to give something special to the audience, they (re) create a unique piece of music every time on stage. Something special that cannot be heard on records. A bit like Arpanet, i saw them live during the release of Reference frame in 2006 & everything they played was (at the time) unreleased, unknown.

btw: some of my favorite autechrian music are live recordings..

Funny to see this thread here today, as I was JUST listening to the Quaristice set last night for the first time in months and thinking how awesome it STILL is.

Time and time again I have the same feelings as you.

If withholding these live sets or soundboards is an attempt to make the fans salivate for more, force them to hock up the money to get tickets and see them live and buy merch (both where the real money is), etc., it could have an adverse affect at this point. Withholding this shit is really making me start to resent them. If they think the crap factory that is Queersauce even approximates their live set, they are out of their minds. Clearly, they. are. wrong. No further explanation needed. No defense. They. are. wrong. Case closed.

Glasgow 2005 SoundBoard and Toronto 2008 have infinite more replay than the albums they support.

Also, try Toronto 2001. Thats an awesome set too!

well i know that you guys don't have the soundboard, but i was actually at the lees place show. it was one of the best mixed performances i've ever seen. this is taking into account all genres of music i've seen live, local or national acts. these guys are fucking masters at filling the room. i relive the experience every once in a while with all the lights out in my room, the sub pumpin, smokin a blunt and drinking bad ice beer.

all i gotta say is they better release quaristice soundboards some day. i don't care if it takes them 10 years, but i needs that shit before i die.

  gl0tch said:

Funny to see this thread here today, as I was JUST listening to the Quaristice set last night for the first time in months and thinking how awesome it STILL is.

Time and time again I have the same feelings as you.

 

If withholding these live sets or soundboards is an attempt to make the fans salivate for more, force them to hock up the money to get tickets and see them live and buy merch (both where the real money is), etc., it could have an adverse affect at this point. Withholding this shit is really making me start to resent them. If they think the crap factory that is Queersauce even approximates their live set, they are out of their minds. Clearly, they. are. wrong. No further explanation needed. No defense. They. are. wrong. Case closed.

 

Glasgow 2005 SoundBoard and Toronto 2008 have infinite more replay than the albums they support.

 

Also, try Toronto 2001. Thats an awesome set too!

the quaristice tour and the untilted tour are hard to compare because those albums were so different. i'd say that right now, i like the live untilted soundboards a little more than untilted itself, but that album is close to my favorite album evar. quaristice will take some time to grow on me, but the live material was so different than that album that it's hard to say one is clearly better. plus i've yet to listen to quadrange

  k h o v said:

So in order to give something special to the audience, they (re) create a unique piece of music every time on stage.

That logic would be awesome if each tour set wasnt exactly the same (almost down to the minutes and seconds for specific breakdowns) from city to city.

Listen to LA, then listen to Toronto. I remember hearing both sets before they played in Philly... perhaps I ruined it for myself, but I remember counting down aloud and yelling "boom!" right when shit would drop. How did I know that would happen right at that time? Its b/c the whole thing is planned out.

Same goes for Untilted set. Listen to Glasgow 2005, then listen to Pontins 2007. Same set, but with more orchestration in the background. Whoopdy doo for two full years later.

You couldnt imagine my frustration when I would read reviews for Queersauce and writers would praise them for breaking their own rules — "They are sooooo progressive once again because they included soooooo many short tracks / complete thoughts on this disc and then sooooo many versions on subsequent companion releases."

Again, whoopdy doo. They would have been progressive if they recorded this set in the studio properly, mastered the fuck out of it, and released it as a proper release, either continuously tracked or as one big track. Fuck it, release a proper double disc for once.

  theSun said:

all i gotta say is they better release quaristice soundboards some day. i don't care if it takes them 10 years, but i needs that shit before i die.

Amen, brother. Amen.

  theSun said:

all i gotta say is they better release quaristice soundboards some day. i don't care if it takes them 10 years, but i needs that shit before i die.

I wasn't kidding when I mentioned re-creating them.

If you want something done, you gotta *get lots of other people to help you create* it.

I'd be interested in re-creating the tunes, they wouldn't sound half as good but still - the grooves, beats - tempo, etc would still be the same..

It would be a fun for me to re-create a particular track out of those (minimally) - post it, then let another person work on it and if we all agree that the second person persons work has been admirable, we'll then let it go on again for another edit or leave it as it is if it's good enough.

Hopefully, after about 10 edits we'd get to a good level of quality.

Mad idea I know, but I reckon it could work - the project would work better if we all used ableton or agreed on a sequencer for an easy transition (using built in plugins, unless additional wav's are left within the project)

lol wtf

  LUDD said:

lol wtf

what?

Hmmm... recreating them huh?

That reminded me... back in late spring I was working around the idea of a long set / track thing, partially (or obviously?) inspired by the Quaristice set.

You can listen to it if you want... its about 35min long. If you're feeling the live sets, there might be some parts of this you can get into.

Relistening to this, I need to fix some things up, and make it longer... but I like it. It was a nice experience making it.

That logic would be awesome if each tour set wasnt exactly the same (almost down to the minutes and seconds for specific breakdowns) from city to city.

that (playing a special set of a unreleased tunes) make more sense if you consider most people dont see Ae more than one time at each tour. Most people dont follow the tour either (& i guess avoid listening to bootlegs before the show.)

sure, I'm not necessarily disagreeing with you, I'm just saying it can't be THAT "special" (to use your words) for them if they're doing the same shit every night.

And as for people following them, if there is any fanboy band out there that would warrant people following them or discussing about them incessantly online or listening to bootlegs, it would be Autechre

the shows aren't EXACTLY the same, but the timing is. they gotta keep their shit to 60 minutes, and there are a ton of songs/song snippets to work in there. anyone who's ever put together a live electronic set knows that if you don't have fairly strict timing things can get boring or annoyingly repetitive pretty quickly. i don't know if they have the all the beats programmed in their sequencer or beats and melodies or what, but there is certainly plenty of variation for every live set, even if the songs are laid out in the same timeframe.

Totally totally agreed.

  gl0tch said:

Hmmm... recreating them huh?

 

That reminded me... back in late spring I was working around the idea of a long set / track thing, partially (or obviously?) inspired by the Quaristice set.

You can listen to it if you want... its about 35min long. If you're feeling the live sets, there might be some parts of this you can get into.

 

MP3 Link

 

Relistening to this, I need to fix some things up, and make it longer... but I like it. It was a nice experience making it.

link isn't working.

Gave the Bloc Weekend set another blast today at work.

I listen to the live stuff than I do more their regular albums now, why there is no official release of these is beyond me cost I would make a real effort to get them on CD. :undecided:

  joshier said:

  gl0tch said:

Hmmm... recreating them huh?

 

That reminded me... back in late spring I was working around the idea of a long set / track thing, partially (or obviously?) inspired by the Quaristice set.

You can listen to it if you want... its about 35min long. If you're feeling the live sets, there might be some parts of this you can get into.

 

MP3 Link

 

Relistening to this, I need to fix some things up, and make it longer... but I like it. It was a nice experience making it.

 

link isn't working.

It should be. Right click and save to your desktop. Its a fairly large file: 80+ mb. Otherwise, just wait for it to load. I just tested it and it worked, unless of course it was cached in my browser.

Can anyone else confirm?

  soundwave said:

Gave the Bloc Weekend set another blast today at work.

 

I listen to the live stuff than I do more their regular albums now, why there is no official release of these is beyond me cost I would make a real effort to get them on CD. :undecided:

Agreed. I said it before, I would have paid twice the cost of the LMTD. edition AND the versions EPs together, just to have this officially on disc.

ae live are amazing. I understand that they don't want it to be released because they think it ought to be heard live and it is not the same on headphones or smaller speakers. I still think they need to release an album in the style of their live sets. They are so great. Totally agree that live AE is the best electronic out there today.

They shows aren't exactly the same, but very very close. The NY show had some things in a different order from the lee's place gig. And obviously the tweaks are all live.