Grooveboxes are NOT dead!

The origin is basically arturia plugins run on its own hardware. U mite as well buy there big vst instrument bundle buy a controller and run it from ur laptop, and as soundwave has said if arturia's vst's are anything to go by it will be full of bugs yeah.

I dont think its worth the dosh.

quasimidi 309 yo

I think it's funny to say to use 1 peice by it's self (groovebox) and yet most people I see who use them, try to use as much other shit with it to try to make it better. (and it still fails most of the time)

good grooveboxes are er, good - the Yamaha RS7000, monomachine, Yamaha RM1x and the MC-505 are all worthy additions to a hardware setup

  BCM said:

good grooveboxes are er, good - the Yamaha RS7000, monomachine, Yamaha RM1x and the MC-505 are all worthy additions to a hardware setup

i rock a rm1x and korg esx-1 as far as grooveboxes go.

ive got the esx jam packed with monomachine waves and i liiiike the things it does :)

Is an MPC a groovebox? Those are good.

  Glass Plate said:

I think it's funny to say to use 1 peice by it's self (groovebox) and yet most people I see who use them, try to use as much other shit with it to try to make it better. (and it still fails most of the time)

also yes i understand this to be true myself. but it CAN be done well.

  scones to die for said:

Is an MPC a groovebox? Those are good.

yeah, I guess they are kind of the original groovebox.

  e440hz said:

i just love being able to carry one piece (and not a laptop, although i guess it sorta is like grooves-in-a-box) and jam

For something new the Korg EMX is a good all rounder for the price, two of my mates come round with theirs for MIDI jam sessions and they have no problems having fun espe.

2nd hand I'd look at the Quasimidi 309 (sequencer can be a bit awkward for improv work tho) or the E-mu XL/MP/PX series and I'd really reccomend a 2nd hand Monomachine if you can stretch to it. The Rolands are wank imho.

Anyhowz for the ultimate take anywhere all-in-one I think the DS10 is fucking amazing.

i had an emu xl and i couldn't wrap my head around it

grooveboxes are cool, nice to get your eyes off a computer screen, and most def. are very popular now and probably forever. Electribes, emu, radikal spectralis, roland/boss stuff, Linn Drum II, etc.

However arturia's plugins are not my cup of tea. Most of their emulations sound the same and i just can't get why they charge so much for this hardware box that is an extension of their (imo) mostly similar sounding plugins.

Wood panels cost money.

my pro-12 has wood panels. it's ace.

Native Instruments just revealed a new groovebox at NAMM

these companies should stop being dumb cunts and release a modular sequencer. Fuck all the modular synth parts, give me a hardware Numerology.

i really fucking want an analogue sequencer. but they're either out of production or very expensive. but i'll get one. ONE DAY I'LL GET ONE.

Build a Klee Sequencer, or do you mean something else like the MMT or what not? Don't you have something from the QY series? I want to the QY-10 I think.

i heard spectralis 2 was announced, i'd prefer that over the VA of arturia.

as far as sequencers go - there are some nice options out there, i have a klee kit right there on the table, and i just found out about SND SAM-16 which should nicely complement the experimental nature of klee. it's not cheap though... midibox seq3 would be another option.

2400 euros!! >:O

  Glass Plate said:

Build a Klee Sequencer, or do you mean something else like the MMT or what not? Don't you have something from the QY series? I want to the QY-10 I think.

yeah I have a QY10 and a QY70 but really want an (already assembled) analogue style sequencer with knobs or sliders for note and gate input. the Doepfer MAQ 16/3 is about the only one I can find that you can just buy from a website/shop but it's like £580.

seriously, build a klee. A lot cheaper than that for sure.

Do you use your QY-10 much?

yeah, I use the QY10 all the time, I love it, but want the hands on, realtime changability of a hardware sequencer ideally.... so how hard is it to build a Klee then? I've had a look at them and they look perfect. i would pay good money for a ready built one! I know you just buy all the circuit boards basically and have to get all the transistors and diodes etc from am electrical shop....also the housing to put it in. it's not a "kit" you get essentially, just some of the innards.... seems like a lot of work and expense (to buy all the gear and tools to build it)

hmm i bought a kit for klee, separate from the boards. they might be long-gone though.

it's not that easy, TBH. especially if you don't have much experience. i always get stuck in the stage of figuring out the enclosure/frontpanel. but some people really don't have problems with that, they just put the stuff in a cardboard box or whatever. just so that it works.

beware though - klee is not an ordinary sequencer.

what about midibox seq? i still think that's the best hardware sequencer out there.

^

yeah, sounds too fraught with problems and hassle for me..... I'll check out the midibox seq though cheers....