Guest boo Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 (edited) edit: that made no sense because it has music, never mind Edited April 17, 2009 by tauboo Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/44763-new-chris-cunningham-advert/page/2/#findComment-1015727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Salads Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 grinningcat said: i like it love the thought of some clever spark in the gucci advertising department trying to convince all the other gucci people that chris cunningham is the right man for this job, by showing them rubber johnny etc. how the hell did he land this! With ad agencies i think cunningham is usually at the top of their lists anyways. They probably try to get him for a lot of stuff (hence why he doesnt worry about doing movies) Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/44763-new-chris-cunningham-advert/page/2/#findComment-1015737 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braintree Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Nice use of a classic disco track. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Braintree's signature Hide all signatures colindyer.bandcamp.com williamsbraintree.bandcamp.com Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/44763-new-chris-cunningham-advert/page/2/#findComment-1015752 Share on other sites More sharing options...
takeshi Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Beautiful. I know I'm beating a dead horse but I really think his version of Neuromancer would have been amazing. Sigh... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide takeshi's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/44763-new-chris-cunningham-advert/page/2/#findComment-1015764 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AOOproductions Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 takeshi said: Beautiful. I know I'm beating a dead horse but I really think his version of Neuromancer would have been amazing. Sigh... you really are though... because if Cunningham ever had to make anything longer then 10 minutes, people watching it would be oddly compelled to shove their heads up their own asses. I mean, he's a genious in his medium. But please no movie. Just look what happened when he was given all the creative power he wanted = Flex. Super head asss crushing. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/44763-new-chris-cunningham-advert/page/2/#findComment-1015775 Share on other sites More sharing options...
takeshi Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 AOOproductions said: takeshi said: Beautiful. I know I'm beating a dead horse but I really think his version of Neuromancer would have been amazing. Sigh... you really are though... because if Cunningham ever had to make anything longer then 10 minutes, people watching it would be oddly compelled to shove their heads up their own asses. I mean, he's a genious in his medium. But please no movie. Just look what happened when he was given all the creative power he wanted = Flex. Super head asss crushing. I've only seen parts of Flex but didn't he say it was intended as an "experiment"? That's like saying he can't do tell a story because he did Monkey Drummer. I think it'd be more appropriate to look at something of his like Windowlicker to draw a conclusion about how he would do in a longer medium. And for me the non-music parts of the video aren't so esoteric as to make me think he can't carry a narrative. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide takeshi's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/44763-new-chris-cunningham-advert/page/2/#findComment-1015788 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AOOproductions Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 takeshi said: AOOproductions said: takeshi said: Beautiful. I know I'm beating a dead horse but I really think his version of Neuromancer would have been amazing. Sigh... you really are though... because if Cunningham ever had to make anything longer then 10 minutes, people watching it would be oddly compelled to shove their heads up their own asses. I mean, he's a genious in his medium. But please no movie. Just look what happened when he was given all the creative power he wanted = Flex. Super head asss crushing. I've only seen parts of Flex but didn't he say it was intended as an "experiment"? That's like saying he can't do tell a story because he did Monkey Drummer. I think it'd be more appropriate to look at something of his like Windowlicker to draw a conclusion about how he would do in a longer medium. And for me the non-music parts of the video aren't so esoteric as to make me think he can't carry a narrative. thats just a small scene with people talking. you cant go by that. And everything he does is an "experiment". I just dont think I can see him working with a huge budget and not jizzing his pants. and i can totally see him reshooting a leaf blowing across the ground like 100 times. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/44763-new-chris-cunningham-advert/page/2/#findComment-1015791 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Shit Attack Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 that was cool i liked it better than most of his music videos Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/44763-new-chris-cunningham-advert/page/2/#findComment-1015797 Share on other sites More sharing options...
takeshi Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 AOOproductions said: takeshi said: AOOproductions said: takeshi said: Beautiful. I know I'm beating a dead horse but I really think his version of Neuromancer would have been amazing. Sigh... you really are though... because if Cunningham ever had to make anything longer then 10 minutes, people watching it would be oddly compelled to shove their heads up their own asses. I mean, he's a genious in his medium. But please no movie. Just look what happened when he was given all the creative power he wanted = Flex. Super head asss crushing. I've only seen parts of Flex but didn't he say it was intended as an "experiment"? That's like saying he can't do tell a story because he did Monkey Drummer. I think it'd be more appropriate to look at something of his like Windowlicker to draw a conclusion about how he would do in a longer medium. And for me the non-music parts of the video aren't so esoteric as to make me think he can't carry a narrative. thats just a small scene with people talking. you cant go by that. And everything he does is an "experiment". I just dont think I can see him working with a huge budget and not jizzing his pants. and i can totally see him reshooting a leaf blowing across the ground like 100 times. Believe me, I could give a fuck if you think he is or isn't capable of directing a film. My point is if you want to make correlations between what you think he can do and what he's done you might want to choose a work of his that is closest to a feature film instead of an art installation that is 17 minutes of a naked couple fucking and hitting each other...IN SPACE. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide takeshi's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/44763-new-chris-cunningham-advert/page/2/#findComment-1015810 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest abusivegeorge Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 lol Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/44763-new-chris-cunningham-advert/page/2/#findComment-1015812 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zaphod Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 (edited) pretty fucking cool. all ads should be this pretty. i would be interested in his neuromancer actually, now. for some reason this was cooler than a lot of his music videos. also neuromancer is all style anyway. Edited April 17, 2009 by zaphod Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/44763-new-chris-cunningham-advert/page/2/#findComment-1015841 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JohnTqs Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 this had nothing to do with anything but it was so ill Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/44763-new-chris-cunningham-advert/page/2/#findComment-1015843 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beneboi Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 zaphod said: pretty fucking cool. all ads should be this pretty. i would be interested in his neuromancer actually, now. for some reason this was cooler than a lot of his music videos. also neuromancer is all style anyway. Neuromancer is cool and all but I think the first book in the bridge trilogy would make for a much better/more coherent movie. I would love to see a full length movie directed by Cunningham, though, regardless of what it is. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/44763-new-chris-cunningham-advert/page/2/#findComment-1015846 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Adjective Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 JohnTqs said: this had nothing to do with anything but it was so ill the girl was getting overwhelmed by the beautiful fragrance around her, with every squirt of gucci perfume hitting her like a field of flowers, mist, and light. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/44763-new-chris-cunningham-advert/page/2/#findComment-1015848 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JohnTqs Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 makes sense Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/44763-new-chris-cunningham-advert/page/2/#findComment-1015855 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rubin Farr Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 whos version of i feel love was that Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Positive Metal Attitude Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/44763-new-chris-cunningham-advert/page/2/#findComment-1015876 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneaksta303 Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 beneboi said: I would love to see a full length movie directed by Cunningham, though, regardless of what it is. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide sneaksta303's signature Hide all signatures The Dark Tower Cycle Pplz ep The Swarm H.P. Sneakstep's Educational Tours Vol. 1 Branch Acidian - Acid's Done Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/44763-new-chris-cunningham-advert/page/2/#findComment-1015881 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Betty Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 Flower scented perfumes, what will they think of next? Rubin Farr said: whos version of i feel love was that Chris Cunningham. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/44763-new-chris-cunningham-advert/page/2/#findComment-1015890 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Salads Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 He always had some weird movie ideas too. The xanxerox manga adaptation comes to mind. Shit thats pretty out there stylistically. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/44763-new-chris-cunningham-advert/page/2/#findComment-1015892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beneboi Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 ranxerox is fucking awesome its kind of like miller's hard boiled, but french Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/44763-new-chris-cunningham-advert/page/2/#findComment-1015896 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zaphod Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 god i'm getting sadder and sadder that the guy who made torque is making neuromancer. this is apparently a poster for it: wtf it's not fucking steampunk. and then his reaction to people thinking maybe he isn't the man for the job Quote Variety blew my cover over the weekend. This is the screenplay I've been working on for the last two years. As to the backlash. There's going to be a backlash. You have to be nuts or stupid to take on a monster like this. I knew what I was getting myself into. Stanley Kubrick could take this on and he'd have a 14 year old in Iowa blogging on how wack the cgi effects were in 2001, and then on the otherhand a 45 year old child molestor completely insistant nothing will ever look as good as the visuals in his own head. And they'd both hate Torque. I could see how the combination of the Britney Spears director with William Gibson is a controversial choice. But the problem is, the summation of my career is not Britney Spears. I've done plenty of "cred" videos: Moby, Chemical Brothers, Korn, U2, Muse to name a few. The headlines sound attractively pessimistic to slap the successful pop example of my work to a supposedly nihilistic work like Neuromancer. It really just demonstrates how little most people know of the music video world and how it pertains to filmmaking. For instance, before David Fincher became the dark auteur that fanboys salivate over, he made his name doing...Paula Abdul videos. And hard core Michael Bay with his rumbling guns and explosions made...Meatloaf videos, as well as...The Divinyls "I Touch Myself." Those of you in the music video business know the score and understand why this is. I guess this is turning into a defense of myself, so I will defend myself. The other complaint lodged at me is that my movie Torque basically sucked. It's either a sell out piece of commercial crap, or an incompetant long form music video, or both, and it's a sure sign I'm clueless as a filmmaker. And to all of this, I'll say: they're wrong. Making your first movie under the Hollywood studio system is hard. It's the hardest thing I've ever done. I'm telling you honestly with no exaggeration: you have no clue what it's like to be put through that studio grinder and retain any sort of authorship. The politics, the pressure, the scapegoating, the interference, the pure physicality of an intense 70 day shoot, the budget hysterics, the permeating sense of fear and negativity from everyone. Torque is not 100% of what I wanted, but I'm proud of what it is, because at the end of the day, after going through this studio machine that blends movies together into mediocrity, it split people. Some hated it, others loved it. Some actually had both reactions at the same time. Whatever it was, it wasn't safe. The ice cream on the cone couldn't be digested without a strong opinion. That's a tall order for an Ice Cube biker flick. Your welcome. So that's one of the reasons why "they" hired me to do Neuromancer, and make no mistake, Gibson is one of "them." There's no way in hell I'm on this without at least a half disinegnous grunt of approval from him. Yes, Chris Cunningham was attached to this years ago and you may think him as a far cooler director than me, but he quit. HE QUIT. Understand? Sorry. He abandoned the baby on the doorstep, and it will never come to daddy again. I'm on it because I am nuts, and I am stupid, and I will throw everything I have at making a book that's been ripped off left and right and considered impossible to adapt...work. I've spent my whole life making things. People who don't know me seem to dismiss me as some cliché blinged out music video director, and even if that jealous perception were true then remember this - I started with nothing. No contacts in Hollywood, no money, nothing. All I've ever had to survive is the dedication to my craft. All I know how to do is make things, and if Neuromancer is on my plate, I am going to make it. That's why this film finally has a chance at getting made. Now here we are and all I know is this: the movie in my head rocks. I've already watched it, I just need to execute. Is it Gibson's vision? Not quite. There's no way this film can ever achieve what Gibson did. He practically changed the world and how we imagined ourselves growing up into it. The novel is always going to be the superior work of art. The book's a legitimate work of genius in a millenial way, not the Richard Roeper thumbs up way. I'm working on a two hour movie, so it's my distillation of his vision into a much shorter form. Compomises and interpretation will be required, and the personal issues I chose to focus on will be the things that turn me on about the book. So at the end of the day, there's wiggle room: the good shit is his, the bad shit is mine. But when it gets made, maybe on some level, everyone will be ecstatic to see some version of it moving on a movie screen, like when a parent is happy to see their toddler draw a crayon of the sun. If I'm lucky, maybe even Gibson himself will dig it. So there it is. I only have one more thing to say. When Variety broke the story, this is how they described me: Joseph Kahn, a Korean-American commercials director who made "Torque" for Warren Bros., has inked to direct. What the fuck does my race have to do with directing Neuromancer? what an asshole. i think cunningham is extremely overrated but the guy does need to make a feature. and why not this. he'd at least make it interesting and new. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/44763-new-chris-cunningham-advert/page/2/#findComment-1015912 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beneboi Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 he doesn't know kubrick is dead? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/44763-new-chris-cunningham-advert/page/2/#findComment-1015913 Share on other sites More sharing options...
takeshi Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 (edited) beneboi said: zaphod said: pretty fucking cool. all ads should be this pretty. i would be interested in his neuromancer actually, now. for some reason this was cooler than a lot of his music videos. also neuromancer is all style anyway. Neuromancer is cool and all but I think the first book in the bridge trilogy would make for a much better/more coherent movie. I would love to see a full length movie directed by Cunningham, though, regardless of what it is. Man, if I ever saw Gibson in public they'd have to taser me to get me to leave because I'd basically beg him to let me have the movie rights to Idoru. I know exactly how to make that novel into a film, I even wrote up a screenplay for it a few years ago, just for writing practice. zaphod said: Is that a bluetooth headset? Edited April 17, 2009 by takeshi Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide takeshi's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/44763-new-chris-cunningham-advert/page/2/#findComment-1015940 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest AOOproductions Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 takeshi said: AOOproductions said: takeshi said: AOOproductions said: takeshi said: Beautiful. I know I'm beating a dead horse but I really think his version of Neuromancer would have been amazing. Sigh... you really are though... because if Cunningham ever had to make anything longer then 10 minutes, people watching it would be oddly compelled to shove their heads up their own asses. I mean, he's a genious in his medium. But please no movie. Just look what happened when he was given all the creative power he wanted = Flex. Super head asss crushing. I've only seen parts of Flex but didn't he say it was intended as an "experiment"? That's like saying he can't do tell a story because he did Monkey Drummer. I think it'd be more appropriate to look at something of his like Windowlicker to draw a conclusion about how he would do in a longer medium. And for me the non-music parts of the video aren't so esoteric as to make me think he can't carry a narrative. thats just a small scene with people talking. you cant go by that. And everything he does is an "experiment". I just dont think I can see him working with a huge budget and not jizzing his pants. and i can totally see him reshooting a leaf blowing across the ground like 100 times. Believe me, I could give a fuck if you think he is or isn't capable of directing a film. My point is if you want to make correlations between what you think he can do and what he's done you might want to choose a work of his that is closest to a feature film instead of an art installation that is 17 minutes of a naked couple fucking and hitting each other...IN SPACE. I'm just saying. The very nature of him, the fact he made a 17 minute art film about people fuckin space... when he had all the control he wanted and and amazing 35 millimeter camera... he made flex. It shows you where his priorities r at. his bread and butter is matching visuals to music. he loves it, hes good at it, and thats that. He wont, and can't make a feature film. If he could of he would of by now. He knows himself better than we can speculate. He was in the same class as Spike Jonze and Michel Gondry in terms of creativity... he could of taken the same route but he didnt. mistake... bad timing... i think not. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/44763-new-chris-cunningham-advert/page/2/#findComment-1015981 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kokoon Posted April 17, 2009 Report Share Posted April 17, 2009 takeshi said: an art installation that is 17 minutes of a naked couple fucking and hitting each other...IN SPACE. lol Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/44763-new-chris-cunningham-advert/page/2/#findComment-1015992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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