chaosmachine Posted July 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 On 7/25/2009 at 11:22 AM, modey said: i'm sure if you had a donate button you'd get $$240 pretty quickly! OK, let's see if you're right... http://forum.watmm.com/donate.html :) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures WATMM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/47610-were-back-stuff-is-gone-read-this/page/2/#findComment-1090276 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Benedict Cumberbatch Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 bring the ads back!!! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/47610-were-back-stuff-is-gone-read-this/page/2/#findComment-1090298 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kakapo Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 People should donate $1 for every 100 posts they have. In theory this would raise over $10,000. Possibly enough to also buy George a new liver, procured from a Burmese street urchin. Although he would be paying for half of it himself obviously. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/47610-were-back-stuff-is-gone-read-this/page/2/#findComment-1090304 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Salads Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Member donations are tough. I personally dont think its worth it to pay for archiving all this stuff. Let's live like we're gonna die tomorrow. Keep it lean. Use those ads. Let's get sponsored by Rephlex or something. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/47610-were-back-stuff-is-gone-read-this/page/2/#findComment-1090305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Iain C Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 To be honest a subtle banner ad at the bottom wouldn't bother me at all, I might even click it if papa asked nicely. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/47610-were-back-stuff-is-gone-read-this/page/2/#findComment-1090306 Share on other sites More sharing options...
impakt Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Quote This transaction will appear on your bill as "WATMM". There we go, 50$ from me. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/47610-were-back-stuff-is-gone-read-this/page/2/#findComment-1090307 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosmachine Posted July 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 Awesome, thanks! If my math is correct, we're less than $100 away from our goal now! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures WATMM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/47610-were-back-stuff-is-gone-read-this/page/2/#findComment-1090315 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazen Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 (edited) On 7/25/2009 at 6:44 PM, chaosmachine said: On 7/25/2009 at 1:54 PM, zazen said: 4 or 5 years ago we were in a situation where watmm relied on member donations to stay on a dedicated server and it did not prove to be sustainable. the $10 a month plan might work out OK, as Tauboo suggests. The server we had at the time was $99/month. $40/month is a lot easier to raise. We already have an "unlimited" plan. The problem is we share this server with hundreds of other accounts, and we're using most of the CPU, so all the other sites get slowed down. It reached a point where they had to take our site offline to avoid affecting all the other customers. With a private server, that's no longer an issue. Thats interesting. If you're paying for a certain level of service and the ISP is stuggling to provide that service and their other customers are suffering as a result, that is their problem, not yours, I would have thought. They need to buy more servers, not ask you to go dedicated. (I understand that it might not work like that in practice. It sounds like you don't have much choice at the moment - I get the impression they are saying upgrade to a full server or they will have to turn watmm off to be fair to their other customers?) Edited July 25, 2009 by zazen Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/47610-were-back-stuff-is-gone-read-this/page/2/#findComment-1090329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosmachine Posted July 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 On 7/25/2009 at 9:54 PM, zazen said: On 7/25/2009 at 6:44 PM, chaosmachine said: On 7/25/2009 at 1:54 PM, zazen said: 4 or 5 years ago we were in a situation where watmm relied on member donations to stay on a dedicated server and it did not prove to be sustainable. the $10 a month plan might work out OK, as Tauboo suggests. The server we had at the time was $99/month. $40/month is a lot easier to raise. We already have an "unlimited" plan. The problem is we share this server with hundreds of other accounts, and we're using most of the CPU, so all the other sites get slowed down. It reached a point where they had to take our site offline to avoid affecting all the other customers. With a private server, that's no longer an issue. Thats interesting. If you're paying for a certain level of service and the ISP is stuggling to provide that service and their other customers are suffering as a result, that is their problem, not yours, I would have thought. They need to buy more servers, not ask you to go dedicated. (I understand that it might not work like that in practice. It sounds like you don't have much choice at the moment - I get the impression they are saying upgrade to a full server or they will have to turn watmm off to be fair to their other customers?) Our database alone is probably bigger than 80% of the other sites on the box, and that's not including our 80+ gig download collection. It would be nice if we could use their entire server for $6/month, but that's not really viable. It's like tap water. In theory, it's unlimited. You can turn the tap on full and let it run all day. But if everyone did that, things would break in a hurry. Shared hosting relies on the same idea: that most people will make sparing use of the unlimited resources. In practice, the contract says if we're using more than 10% CPU, they reserve the right to suspend the account. This is the same problem we ran into on Dreamhost. It just took us a bit longer to run into it on the new host. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures WATMM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/47610-were-back-stuff-is-gone-read-this/page/2/#findComment-1090335 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEK Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 what happened to the google links at the bottom of the page? bring those back, if only for the fact they were random and fun Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide YEK's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents !:/music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/47610-were-back-stuff-is-gone-read-this/page/2/#findComment-1090336 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosmachine Posted July 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 On 7/25/2009 at 10:08 PM, yek said: what happened to the google links at the bottom of the page? bring those back, if only for the fact they were random and fun The market for those died in the recession last year. Site advertising is a very bad market right now, it's hard to find good sponsors. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures WATMM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/47610-were-back-stuff-is-gone-read-this/page/2/#findComment-1090338 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEK Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 fucked Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide YEK's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents !:/music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/47610-were-back-stuff-is-gone-read-this/page/2/#findComment-1090341 Share on other sites More sharing options...
zazen Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 (edited) On 7/25/2009 at 10:07 PM, chaosmachine said: On 7/25/2009 at 9:54 PM, zazen said: blah Our database alone is probably bigger than 80% of the other sites on the box, and that's not including our 80+ gig download collection. It would be nice if we could use their entire server for $6/month, but that's not really viable. It's like tap water. In theory, it's unlimited. You can turn the tap on full and let it run all day. But if everyone did that, things would break in a hurry. Shared hosting relies on the same idea: that most people will make sparing use of the unlimited resources. In practice, the contract says if we're using more than 10% CPU, they reserve the right to suspend the account. This is the same problem we ran into on Dreamhost. It just took us a bit longer to run into it on the new host. Oh, I see. Can they throttle us down to 10% max while we think about it? Slow running would be preferable to pulling the plug. (so kindof the way this got fixed last time was essentially by losing all the history during the move to the new host. as much as I admire XLT's unbroken history and as much as I dislike losing threads, the reality is that most of the threads on this forum would not be mourned for very long if they got lost. we have survived through it before ; ) probably you could delete everything past page 3 on each forum index and no one would even notice as long as their post counts stayed the same!) Edited July 25, 2009 by zazen Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/47610-were-back-stuff-is-gone-read-this/page/2/#findComment-1090343 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ZeroHour Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 mmmmm evony Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/47610-were-back-stuff-is-gone-read-this/page/2/#findComment-1090344 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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chaosmachine Posted July 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 On 7/25/2009 at 10:20 PM, zazen said: Oh, I see. Can they throttle us down to 10% max while we think about it? Slow running would be preferable to pulling the plug. (so kindof the way this got fixed last time was essentially by losing all the history during the move to the new host. as much as I admire XLT's unbroken history and as much as I dislike losing threads, the reality is that most of the threads on this forum would not be mourned for very long if they got lost. we have survived through it before ; ) probably you could delete everything past page 3 on each forum index and no one would even notice as long as their post counts stayed the same!) There isn't an easy way to throttle it, because everybody shares the same web server and database process. This is what makes it possible to efficiently host hundreds of sites, but at the same time, you're vulnerable to any one site eating all the resources. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures WATMM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/47610-were-back-stuff-is-gone-read-this/page/2/#findComment-1090350 Share on other sites More sharing options...
YEK Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 i actually thought my dvda thread crashed the service... i guess we'll never know Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide YEK's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents !:/music Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/47610-were-back-stuff-is-gone-read-this/page/2/#findComment-1090352 Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAXIMUS MISCHIEF Posted July 25, 2009 Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 are the people who paid going to get access to the secret lifetime members forum!? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide MAXIMUS MISCHIEF's signature Hide all signatures official sup barnstar of coolness Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/47610-were-back-stuff-is-gone-read-this/page/2/#findComment-1090357 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaosmachine Posted July 25, 2009 Author Report Share Posted July 25, 2009 On 7/25/2009 at 11:03 PM, MAXIMUS MISCHIEF said: are the people who paid going to get access to the secret lifetime members forum!? You mean Valhalla? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures WATMM Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/47610-were-back-stuff-is-gone-read-this/page/2/#findComment-1090361 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yegg Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 Just donated $15, long live WATMM! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/47610-were-back-stuff-is-gone-read-this/page/2/#findComment-1090383 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Salads Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 On 7/25/2009 at 10:12 PM, chaosmachine said: On 7/25/2009 at 10:08 PM, yek said: what happened to the google links at the bottom of the page? bring those back, if only for the fact they were random and fun The market for those died in the recession last year. Site advertising is a very bad market right now, it's hard to find good sponsors. Fuck, what the fuck Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/47610-were-back-stuff-is-gone-read-this/page/2/#findComment-1090384 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest abracadabra Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 I only have $12 in my bank account right now and have to worry about how I'm going to make my $900 rent for next month. FUCK, I will help when things look smooth for me financially Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/47610-were-back-stuff-is-gone-read-this/page/2/#findComment-1090390 Share on other sites More sharing options...
impakt Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 I'm expecting some epeen boost after giving you my money! watmm-cialis. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/47610-were-back-stuff-is-gone-read-this/page/2/#findComment-1090395 Share on other sites More sharing options...
modey Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 donated. the super hidden rephlex/warp subforum is a good incentive, thanks guys! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide modey's signature Hide all signatures youtube | bandcamp | soundcloud | twitter | facebook 0F.digital Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/47610-were-back-stuff-is-gone-read-this/page/2/#findComment-1090430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest A/D Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 i request that my donation be put in the secret watmm milk money fund and then be used for drugs Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/47610-were-back-stuff-is-gone-read-this/page/2/#findComment-1090433 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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