I'm scared of ignorant right-wing bigots.

  On 9/17/2009 at 7:22 AM, azatoth said:

obama is a bad president and the dems are spineless shits when a bunch of fat people in lawnchairs and rascalscooters can sway them to make a reform for the worse.

as long as the american system only allows two parties to share the power, no meaningful reforms are going pass. two-sides of the same shitty coin.

those fat people in lawn chairs have the same amount of voting power as anyone else. and there's more of them. so naturally everyone panders to them.

  On 9/17/2009 at 3:51 AM, abusivegeorge said:

I'll ask again, why would you need a fucking gun for these faggot pussies?

they have guns, i do not. and they carry signs that say things like, "Unarmed... this time."

  On 9/17/2009 at 7:22 AM, azatoth said:

obama is a bad president

lol.

  On 9/16/2009 at 6:10 PM, The Overlook said:

  On 9/16/2009 at 12:12 PM, my usernames always really suck said:

I don't have a problem with people protesting government-run health insurance.

 

I do have a problem with neo-conservatives pretending to be libertarians when they're NOT, and they've been doing such a thing very often at these tea party protests. These people who pretend they give a shit about how unconstitutional such a program would be (and it would be unconstitutional, at least if run at the federal level) are the same shitbag traitors who told us Libertarians to STFU when we openly took issue with the existence of the Patriot Act and the war in Iraq.

 

These "tea party" bottom-feeders have no problem with unconstitutional government programs. They just want THEIR unconstitutional government programs, not YOUR unconstitutional government programs, in place.

 

tl;dr -- fuck both of you

Amen.

 

There's a name for such a twat. LINO: Libertarian in name only.

lol, LINOS. I agree with this sentiment, there was a "tea party" protest in the spring here in Austin, which is may be the liberal mecca of Texas but has an above average presence of libertarians as well. I checked it out, chatted with some fellow libertarians, and we all expressed how annoyed we were at the presence of so many neo-con Republicans. The mood was far less bigoted and right-wing than clips I've seen at other protests, but I know more than half of those people have never protested anything like this before.

They weren't there for the 2003 anti-war protests, they didn't give a shit about W's federal program expansions or the patriot act, and I doubt many even voted for someone like Ron Paul. But as soon as Obama was elected they went into a frenzy. It was like watching that South Park episode where they tried hiding in a cave and wait for the endtimes.

Plus I live in a state with a rather well organized succession movement endorsed by a neo-con governor. It's a shit time to be a libertarian or lean that way.

  On 9/17/2009 at 4:25 PM, blicero said:

  On 9/17/2009 at 7:22 AM, azatoth said:

obama is a bad president

 

lol.

seriously. has he done anything he promised during his campaign? yeah, i know politicians say anything to get elected, but for all that talk about change this and that, obama hasn't done anything really to change the status quo. he bent over real fast to the health insurance lobbyist. the promised transparency was oddly absent when doling out billions to the failed banks, all without any sort of regulation or overshight and they just pocketed the money and kept on doing what started the whole mess. the troops are still in iraq and shit's a mess in afghanistan, meanwhile he's already planning operations in pakistan. what about the torture scandal, noone held accountable for it and precious little done to correct it. i am thinking obama was way too much of an idealist and when he sat behind the desk in the oval office he found him powerless fighting the corporate interests that has had their tentacles in washington for so long that they are practically running the country. he can't even keep his own party in line with the blue dog dems throwing up a stink. it probably wouldn't have been much worse if a half-dead dude and a hockey mom would be running that shit.

not worth my time

or maybe obama is playing the game so far ahead that he got them all where he wants them. yeah, right. america is forever going to have more or less shit leaders.

PALIN/JINDAL 2012 WOOOOOOOOO!

europe FTW generally

europe is generally alright, but the far-right is getting more foothold around the continent, which is worrying.

  On 9/17/2009 at 10:19 PM, azatoth said:

or maybe obama is playing the game so far ahead that he got them all where he wants them. yeah, right. america is forever going to have more or less shit leaders.

 

PALIN/JINDAL 2012 WOOOOOOOOO!

lol you live in fucking finland

yeah, up here life's so peachy i got to look elsewhere to get my anger fix.

  On 9/17/2009 at 10:34 PM, azatoth said:

europe is generally alright, but the far-right is getting more foothold around the continent, which is worrying.

really? i know we've had a (percieved?) rise in ultra-nationalism in the UK with the British Nationals, but they're a laughing stock for all save the tards. The UK tends to be the anomaly in europe anyway, like a halfway house between sensible secular europe and yee-haw $ $ $ $$$$$ jesus jesus jesus america. there was Le Pen in France a while back, but his little sub-fascist movement seems long dead.

  On 9/17/2009 at 10:41 PM, azatoth said:

yeah, up here life's so peachy i got to look elsewhere to get my anger fix.

lol come to britain and beat up some pakis

  On 9/17/2009 at 10:02 PM, azatoth said:

 

 

seriously. has he done anything he promised during his campaign? yeah, i know politicians say anything to get elected, but for all that talk about change this and that, obama hasn't done anything really to change the status quo. he bent over real fast to the health insurance lobbyist. the promised transparency was oddly absent when doling out billions to the failed banks, all without any sort of regulation or overshight and they just pocketed the money and kept on doing what started the whole mess. the troops are still in iraq and shit's a mess in afghanistan, meanwhile he's already planning operations in pakistan. what about the torture scandal, noone held accountable for it and precious little done to correct it. i am thinking obama was way too much of an idealist and when he sat behind the desk in the oval office he found him powerless fighting the corporate interests that has had their tentacles in washington for so long that they are practically running the country. he can't even keep his own party in line with the blue dog dems throwing up a stink. it probably wouldn't have been much worse if a half-dead dude and a hockey mom would be running that shit.

yup...the saddest thing is that college students and the majority of the voting population that got him to that place of power will most likely refuse to back down from trusting, basically, another shitty politician. This in turn, reinforces guaranteed partisanship in America.

looking at the recent europarliament elections showed an increase in right-wing reps getting through.

most european countries have right-centrist parliaments now.

I think probably the coolest part of Christianity is when they'll be raptured. Shits gonna be off the hook nahmean?

seriously though i dunno what we're gonna do about all the muslims.

maybe when can get the jews to cancel them out?

edit: when can?

didn't europe and asia have bank bail outs too?

  On 9/17/2009 at 7:22 AM, azatoth said:

obama is a bad president and the dems are spineless shits when a bunch of fat people in lawnchairs and rascalscooters can sway them to make a reform for the worse.

as long as the american system only allows two parties to share the power, no meaningful reforms are going pass. two-sides of the same shitty coin.

You just sound like a European that yet again has a thing against America. I like Europe and Europeans. I have friends there, but it is a common trait to moan about America for some reason

i think anyone with common sense would agree that the American two-party system is worthless.

  On 9/18/2009 at 2:50 AM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said:

i think anyone with common sense would agree that the American two-party system is worthless.

It's ridicuously ingrained of the American public's mentality. For example, the local community weekly newspaper, The Austin Chronicle, which is bleeding heart liberal, has never endorsed a third party candidate and usually sticks with incumbent Democrats, even if they voice major issues with them. I drive around and there are cars with Obama stickers and "END THIS WAR" bumper decals, and I can't help but want to smash their face in. Or that "Clinton lied, no one died" shit. He bombed the hell out of the Balkans twice, and a medicine factory in Sudan. It's so hypocritical.

Some people like a winner, and others are complacent with feeling like they make a difference. My most left-wing friend hates Ralph Nader because he says he ruined the 2000 election. Fuck that mentality. Nader's done more good than either Gore or W.

  On 9/18/2009 at 2:13 AM, marf said:

You just sound like a European that yet again has a thing against America. I like Europe and Europeans. I have friends there, but it is a common trait to moan about America for some reason

a lot of people in europe watch the TV and see all these right-wing fundie gun-toting nutters in the US and are completely alienated by it. you don't really get people like that in europe. so people there start wondering how such people can come to exist in a society that is supposedly very highly developed. plus the whole AMERIKER IS BESTEST unneccesserily-high-patriotism mentality that a high proportion of american tourists in europe (and americans in general?) seem to have. plus the whole warmongering thing (although UK is pretty much as bad) and the whole healthcare thing making europeans think wtf america is backward and shit.

this shit makes me want to cry

this is america in the making, this is history, this is BAD folks

all americans: this is fucking BAD and needs to be taken seriously

we're looking at violence inside our own country

we're looking at a civil war, no joke. both sides know it. this has grown out of hand. we must make sure it doesn't reach that point

I think it's terrifying that the modern political situation in America has devolved into ill-informed white trash yelling at educated students on one side, while representatives interrupt our president while he is stating a simple fact. As was said earlier, the misinformation that has been spread by the mainstream media has genuinely affected the way our country thinks. It's awful that people base their entire worldview on one source, like Fox news or MSNBC. I try to watch BBC whenever possible, I find it's the least biased of all the news sources.

"Democracy is the worst form of government except for all those others that have been tried."

-Winston Churchill