Guest zaphod Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 i'm not a lynch devotee. i think mulholland drive is one of the best movies of the last ten years. i've seen lost highway, and parts of it work, parts of it don't. i hate dune. i haven't seen anything else that lynch has made. i understand that his style takes some getting used to, and i believe that when he's firing on all cylinders, as he does with mulholland drive, he creates an atmosphere that approximates a nightmare better than any horror movie ever can. so i want you guys to explain to me how something like this can be considered good. it's obviously terrible. unless there's something tongue in cheek about it, or ironic, or it's somehow hip like every other fashionable artifact of the eighties and early nineties. is there some historical critical perspective that i need in order to appreciate the level of shittiness present in the first episode of this show? how the hell is this considered a classic? as soon as the old guy goes "laura palmer" and that ridiculous soap opera music starts playing, i just started laughing. is this actually a comedy? the acting and direction is atrocious and stilted even by lynch standards, there's nothing artful or interesting about the camera work...i'm dying to know why i should watch another episode, let alone two seasons and a movie. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52252-twin-peaks/ Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 you should watch them in order to retain your cinematic dignity. (although you can skip season 2 and still retain your street cred) Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide lumpenprol's signature Hide all signatures After this I listened to geogaddi and I didn't like it, I was quite vomitting at some tracks, I realized they were too crazy for my ears, they took too much acid to play music I stupidly thought (cliché of psyché music) But I knew this album was a kind of big forest where I just wasn't able to go inside. - lost cloud I was in US tjis summer, and eat in KFC. FUCK That's the worst thing i've ever eaten. The flesh simply doesn't cleave to the bones. Battery ferming. And then, foie gras is banned from NY state, because it's considered as ill-treat. IT'S NOT. KFC is tourist ill-treat. YOU POISONERS! Two hours after being to KFC, i stopped in a amsih little town barf all that KFC shit out. Nice work! So i hope this woman is not like kfc chicken, otherwise she'll be pulled to pieces. -organized confused project Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52252-twin-peaks/#findComment-1206595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneaksta303 Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide sneaksta303's signature Hide all signatures The Dark Tower Cycle Pplz ep The Swarm H.P. Sneakstep's Educational Tours Vol. 1 Branch Acidian - Acid's Done Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52252-twin-peaks/#findComment-1206596 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zaphod Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 see, there we go with the facepalms. explain, please, for fucks sake, why this show is actually good. i'm not shitting all over the beatles here, i'm saying a show that has all the characteristics of a bad movie is what it is: bad. so why is it good? is this an irony thing? Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52252-twin-peaks/#findComment-1206599 Share on other sites More sharing options...
essines Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 i never liked it but i also didn't give it much thought/credit. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide essines's signature Hide all signatures On 8/19/2011 at 11:51 PM, Luke Fucking Hazard said: Essines has, and always will remind me of MacReady. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52252-twin-peaks/#findComment-1206600 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fishtank Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 When I want to watch what happens next I consider it good I watched this series because I liked most of lynch's work and had never seen all of Twin Peaks I found myself always wanting to see what would happen next or how the story would pan out Compared to other stuff on TV it's good because it's different The only parts (I felt) showed any lynch style was the first and last episodes everything else is very 'normal', for lack of a better term but I liked the characters and the mood Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52252-twin-peaks/#findComment-1206601 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Calx Sherbet Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 do NOT take the weird elements of the show seriously. that's all i have to say. keep watching the show, it'll make more sense Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52252-twin-peaks/#findComment-1206602 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest vodor Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 i love lynch, and coincidentally i just watched the twin peaks pilot episode last night--never seen even 5 seconds of the show until then. i loved it and can't wait til the next disc arrives! i was smiling with glee at so many parts, and it didn't seem to be nearly as "weird" as everyone's comments had me expecting. only the pilot so far though, so yeah. i dunno, i eat that shit up. the deer head on the conference table, the crying cop, the flubbed line that lynch left in (i had read about it beforehand on wikipedia or some shit... it really was great to leave in--it just works) ... they all just tickle me in lovely places. kyle's character and his portrayal are sublime too. i never really cared for his acting in the other lynch films, but he's awesome here. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52252-twin-peaks/#findComment-1206612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Also zaphod, how have you not seen elephant man or blue velvet? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide lumpenprol's signature Hide all signatures After this I listened to geogaddi and I didn't like it, I was quite vomitting at some tracks, I realized they were too crazy for my ears, they took too much acid to play music I stupidly thought (cliché of psyché music) But I knew this album was a kind of big forest where I just wasn't able to go inside. - lost cloud I was in US tjis summer, and eat in KFC. FUCK That's the worst thing i've ever eaten. The flesh simply doesn't cleave to the bones. Battery ferming. And then, foie gras is banned from NY state, because it's considered as ill-treat. IT'S NOT. KFC is tourist ill-treat. YOU POISONERS! Two hours after being to KFC, i stopped in a amsih little town barf all that KFC shit out. Nice work! So i hope this woman is not like kfc chicken, otherwise she'll be pulled to pieces. -organized confused project Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52252-twin-peaks/#findComment-1206614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest viscosity Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 I liked the first and last episodes, but you need to watch everything in between for it to make some sense Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52252-twin-peaks/#findComment-1206616 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sneaksta303 Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 (edited) The real question is Zaphod, what is there NOT to like? EDIT nvm 1. "Just you" 2. Evelyn Marsh/James subplot Edited January 8, 2010 by sneaksta303 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide sneaksta303's signature Hide all signatures The Dark Tower Cycle Pplz ep The Swarm H.P. Sneakstep's Educational Tours Vol. 1 Branch Acidian - Acid's Done Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52252-twin-peaks/#findComment-1206630 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zaphod Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 On 1/8/2010 at 4:21 AM, lumpenprol said: Also zaphod, how have you not seen elephant man or blue velvet? no and i don't much care to! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52252-twin-peaks/#findComment-1206634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
chassis Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 I havent watched Twin Peaks but I was going to soon. Elephant Man is fuckin' brill. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide chassis's signature Hide all signatures Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52252-twin-peaks/#findComment-1206637 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest nene multiple assgasms Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 you gotta watch blue velvet. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52252-twin-peaks/#findComment-1206638 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Fishtank Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Watch the Twin Peaks movie first if you want to see it in proper order Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52252-twin-peaks/#findComment-1206650 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest vodor Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 oh, and the music is great. "ridiculous soap opera music" ... i think you're broken! i do think you have to really dig david lynch to dig the show though. there are indeed moments of stiltedness and soapyness, but it IS a soap at its core, and it's from 1990. it's a david lynch soap from the 90s, and that's exactly how it plays. if you're not wild about lynch and get hung up on the soapy aspects, i can certainly see that you wouldn't care for it. but again, i've only seen the pilot. and i'm also a fanboy. i admit it. i love lynch, and angelo badalamenti too (music). Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52252-twin-peaks/#findComment-1206652 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 the thing is, I'm actually not a huge lynch fan myself - he's not as near and dear to my heart as say, Tarkovsky or Herzog - but even so, I don't get your intense dislike. Admit it, you're just bored and trolling Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide lumpenprol's signature Hide all signatures After this I listened to geogaddi and I didn't like it, I was quite vomitting at some tracks, I realized they were too crazy for my ears, they took too much acid to play music I stupidly thought (cliché of psyché music) But I knew this album was a kind of big forest where I just wasn't able to go inside. - lost cloud I was in US tjis summer, and eat in KFC. FUCK That's the worst thing i've ever eaten. The flesh simply doesn't cleave to the bones. Battery ferming. And then, foie gras is banned from NY state, because it's considered as ill-treat. IT'S NOT. KFC is tourist ill-treat. YOU POISONERS! Two hours after being to KFC, i stopped in a amsih little town barf all that KFC shit out. Nice work! So i hope this woman is not like kfc chicken, otherwise she'll be pulled to pieces. -organized confused project Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52252-twin-peaks/#findComment-1206654 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 Twin Peaks the show is about the only Lynch thing i could not get into that much, but i like it in theory. watching it from the very first episode didn't really suck me in but i've heard season 2 gets better Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52252-twin-peaks/#findComment-1206662 Share on other sites More sharing options...
essines Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 On 1/8/2010 at 4:43 AM, zaphod said: On 1/8/2010 at 4:21 AM, lumpenprol said: Also zaphod, how have you not seen elephant man or blue velvet? no and i don't much care to! way to answer the wrong question, faggot. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide essines's signature Hide all signatures On 8/19/2011 at 11:51 PM, Luke Fucking Hazard said: Essines has, and always will remind me of MacReady. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52252-twin-peaks/#findComment-1206663 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zaphod Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 On 1/8/2010 at 5:01 AM, lumpenprol said: the thing is, I'm actually not a huge lynch fan myself - he's not as near and dear to my heart as say, Tarkovsky or Herzog - but even so, I don't get your intense dislike. Admit it, you're just bored and trolling this show was built up as some kind of work of art, mainly by people on this messageboard. turns out it's shit. get it? fuck you essines, get a haircut you canadian nothing i knew nothing about it going in, so the fact that's it's meant to be taken in the context of a soap opera doesn't matter. all i knew was that it's supposedly one of the best shows ever made. i'd rather just watch garth marenghi's darkplace. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52252-twin-peaks/#findComment-1206698 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 On 1/8/2010 at 5:56 AM, zaphod said: this show was built up as some kind of work of art, mainly by people on this messageboard. turns out it's shit. get it? you do an admirable job of standing up for the little guys on the forum. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide lumpenprol's signature Hide all signatures After this I listened to geogaddi and I didn't like it, I was quite vomitting at some tracks, I realized they were too crazy for my ears, they took too much acid to play music I stupidly thought (cliché of psyché music) But I knew this album was a kind of big forest where I just wasn't able to go inside. - lost cloud I was in US tjis summer, and eat in KFC. FUCK That's the worst thing i've ever eaten. The flesh simply doesn't cleave to the bones. Battery ferming. And then, foie gras is banned from NY state, because it's considered as ill-treat. IT'S NOT. KFC is tourist ill-treat. YOU POISONERS! Two hours after being to KFC, i stopped in a amsih little town barf all that KFC shit out. Nice work! So i hope this woman is not like kfc chicken, otherwise she'll be pulled to pieces. -organized confused project Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52252-twin-peaks/#findComment-1206704 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Calx Sherbet Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 On 1/8/2010 at 5:56 AM, zaphod said: On 1/8/2010 at 5:01 AM, lumpenprol said: the thing is, I'm actually not a huge lynch fan myself - he's not as near and dear to my heart as say, Tarkovsky or Herzog - but even so, I don't get your intense dislike. Admit it, you're just bored and trolling this show was built up as some kind of work of art, mainly by people on this messageboard. turns out it's shit. get it? fuck you essines, get a haircut you canadian nothing holy jesus, fucking LOL Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52252-twin-peaks/#findComment-1206722 Share on other sites More sharing options...
SR4 Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 as a big fan of the X-files I completely understood where they got their mood and pacing from....fuckin Twin Peaks. I love it, but I can see how its either a love it or hate it type thing Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide SR4's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52252-twin-peaks/#findComment-1206727 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redruth Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 On 1/8/2010 at 4:05 AM, zaphod said: see, there we go with the facepalms. explain, please, for fucks sake, why this show is actually good. i'm not shitting all over the beatles here, i'm saying a show that has all the characteristics of a bad movie is what it is: bad. so why is it good? is this an irony thing? it's all about the space in between. it's about the feeling of things more then how they look. it a mood, it's emotion, it's like nothing else, it's david lynch. some like it and some don't . Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52252-twin-peaks/#findComment-1206728 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zaphod Posted January 8, 2010 Report Share Posted January 8, 2010 On 1/8/2010 at 6:23 AM, ieafs said: On 1/8/2010 at 5:56 AM, zaphod said: On 1/8/2010 at 5:01 AM, lumpenprol said: the thing is, I'm actually not a huge lynch fan myself - he's not as near and dear to my heart as say, Tarkovsky or Herzog - but even so, I don't get your intense dislike. Admit it, you're just bored and trolling this show was built up as some kind of work of art, mainly by people on this messageboard. turns out it's shit. get it? fuck you essines, get a haircut you canadian nothing i knew nothing about it going in, so the fact that's it's meant to be taken in the context of a soap opera doesn't matter. all i knew was that it's supposedly one of the best shows ever made. i'd rather just watch garth marenghi's darkplace. well i mean, it's not hilarious... but there's definitely some lighthearted jabs at the genre. it's not like garth marenghi is to that sort of twilight zone type show. if anything i just like that warm-heartedness of a lot of the humour. i think it's overrated definitely. but the reason i like it is for the same reasons that lynch seemed to want to make it - how everything is really slowly moving and kind of dripping with the atmosphere of the place. there's probably also a nostalgia element cause it reminds me of the first things i ever watched on TV when i was growing up - stuff like eerie indiana or sitcom things like doogie howser and that. i think it's a little like sonic youth are to certain people into music or something - they overrate it because it's their first exposure to something slightly left-of-centre which is probably why i liked it a lot more when i first saw it . for some reason though in the last two years i've heard TP mentioned way more than ever before that, by sort of... 18 year old girls that wear cardigans. that 20 year cycle i guess. that's reasonable. i can move on now Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/52252-twin-peaks/#findComment-1206729 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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