twin peaks

i think you're taking way too many preconceptions and snobby baggage into it. just fucking watch it for what it is.

i love twin peaks.

I haven't thought too hard about it either, but my impression was that it was sort of a dark-comic spoof on daytime soaps, so what is so entertaining about it, and darkly, absurdly and sometimes frighteningly funny is all this weird, sometimes horrific shit going on around the world of the 'straight man' actors on the show. A lot of what gives Cooper (is that his name?) his character is his determination to continue on with the most mundane of rituals (his coffee and pie) in the midst of a batshit crazy world. I don't know if I'd say it has some profound thing to say about humanity, but I did find it entertaining.

And contrary to GBIII, I found season two to have jumped the shark.

  On 1/8/2010 at 5:54 AM, ieafs said:

 

 

i mean, nadine getting super-strength, the endless convolutions of the storyline, andy, cooper's tactics... is that not pretty obviously meant to be tongue-in-cheek? loads of it is just really silly and funny, in contrast with the darker stuff i guess.

 

i'm not a great fan of irony, but i think this more like an affectionate take off. that he liked the idea of a soap opera where you can really draw things out and let things slowly happen.

yeah, all this is why I love this show. and I like it simply because there is something comforting about it, it has this slow pace, everybody knows each other, nice surroundings.

  On 1/8/2010 at 2:28 PM, encey said:

And contrary to GBIII, I found season two to have jumped the shark.

and how... and I wouldn't recommend watching firewalk with me first, save that till the end.

I guess I just felt like the ending of the first season seemed like a natural stopping point for the story, so that season two seemed to be needlessly dragging things out, complicating them, making them ridiculous or adding extra elements to keep interest and losing the sense of unity that the first story arc had on its own.

never watched the series but i really want to, i heard so many good things about it. anyway the movie is total crap.

and watch elephant man, zaphod

  On 1/8/2010 at 6:49 PM, Brian Tregaskin said:

never watched the series but i really want to, i heard so many good things about it. anyway the movie is total crap.

and watch elephant man, zaphod

did you see Lost Highway?

I thought it was pretty goofy, but always entertaining. Audrey Horne is so fucking hot.

you haven't seen elephant man? wtf

also the straight story

  On 1/8/2010 at 4:05 AM, zaphod said:

see, there we go with the facepalms. explain, please, for fucks sake, why this show is actually good. i'm not shitting all over the beatles here, i'm saying a show that has all the characteristics of a bad movie is what it is: bad. so why is it good? is this an irony thing?

you have to watch PAST the 2nd episode..

  On 1/8/2010 at 7:00 PM, troon said:

  On 1/8/2010 at 6:49 PM, Brian Tregaskin said:

never watched the series but i really want to, i heard so many good things about it. anyway the movie is total crap.

and watch elephant man, zaphod

 

 

did you see Lost Highway?

yeah, it's wicked! it might be even better than mulholland drive.

i heard one autechre track and i don't get it waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

basically yeah. i thought zaphod was supposed to be reasonably intelligent. why would you make such a solid decision about the whole thing and then make an angry thread about it after watching 1 partz. unless of course you're just being contrary and trolly with your sandy pussy.

I think ieafs hit it on the head.

Twin peaks is definitely not a massive artistic masterpiece or anything and the soapy aspect of it is a bit unappealing but it's part of what makes the whole thing so enjoyable, that you've got this daytime soap environment which has an occasionally extremely dark edge to it and some absolutely bizarre moments. I would imagine if I turned on the first episode when it came on TV I would have never watched it again but I suppose some people liked that kind of thing and kept watching and shortly found themselves watching batshit insane dream sequences and being caught off guard. I like how surprising it can be, once or twice I nearly shat myself. Plus I do find Kyle Maclachlans performance generally entertaining in itself.

edit:

didn't realise there was a 3rd page, everyone has said what I just said basically word for word

BLWIN BLEAKS

  On 1/8/2010 at 7:11 PM, Brian Tregaskin said:

  On 1/8/2010 at 7:00 PM, troon said:

  On 1/8/2010 at 6:49 PM, Brian Tregaskin said:

never watched the series but i really want to, i heard so many good things about it. anyway the movie is total crap.

and watch elephant man, zaphod

 

 

did you see Lost Highway?

 

yeah, it's wicked! it might be even better than mulholland drive.

Lost Highway is my #1 ....then Eraserhead, Dune, Elephant Man, Blue Velvet and Wild At Heart.

  On 1/8/2010 at 3:58 AM, zaphod said:

unless there's something tongue in cheek about it

Watch this and you'll probably be able to make up your mind if it's tongue in cheek in places:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdTex8Ga1Mo

  On 1/8/2010 at 4:59 AM, Fishtank said:

Watch the Twin Peaks movie first if you want to see it in proper order

I would seriously not do that, unless of course you want to spoil the first season and a half.....

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Reason enough to watch innit?

okay I just watched mulholland drive. don't get why this gets so much praise really.

I can understand symbolism, but what the fuck is up with this movie, can't say that I enjoyed this to be honest.

It's a puzzle that you may not solve on first viewing - now that you've watched it, try reading some of the explanations out there, might give you added insight.

  On 1/9/2010 at 1:19 AM, lumpenprol said:

It's a puzzle that you may not solve on first viewing - now that you've watched it, try reading some of the explanations out there, might give you added insight.

yeah but it's all speculations, it could be anything you know what I mean? that's just not satisfying imo, I was mainly hoping for some good old, weird-ass atmosheres I guess.

I guess I sort of agree (though I though the body discovery scene was fantastic, I thought some of the lesbian stuff was silly), but I gained a new appreciation for the film after reading one of those "explanations" online. I picked up the general idea of the film while watching, but the explanation I read showed new ways in which everything is related, which I think were indeed intentional by Lynch. I think that's why it's satisfying; it seems like its his most structurally rigorous film.

I haven't seen it either. is it dream-like? I like movies that are dream-like, which I guess is why I like lynch.

yeah, maybe I need to watch it again. but I can't decide whether this film is intellectually rigorous or not at all right now, as I still think one could speculate forever about the message .

can you exlain what was special about the dead body scene though? I think I maybe didn't pay enough attention

not this one in my opinion, nene, it's a shame

dear zaphod,

please change your avatar.

~Yegg