synth shopping

303s? i've used some pretend ones in reaktor but i'm wondering if you can get similar effects with something like the roland juno 106. i think thats the synth i'm going to go for

that or oberheim matrix 1000, probably the juno though and the oberheim later. i just need something with true analog sound to go next level

MFB is really affordable analog synth manufacturer, just throwing that out there for you.

a juno won't sound anything like a 303, but it's cool in a different way.

I just picked up a DSI Tetr4 for $640 used. I'm enjoying it.

I have a Waldorf Blofeld.

korg ms2000

  On 3/4/2010 at 4:33 AM, Glass Plate said:

MFB is really affordable analog synth manufacturer, just throwing that out there for you.

word, I'm probably gonna buy an MFB Synth II in the near future

If you are wondering if you can get some good acid sounds out of a 106, you definitely can. 303s are wonderful for their sequencer alone, but the timbre is rather limited. My first synth was a 106. I loved it to death, literally. It now has a dead voice, a dead filter, and best of all, a dead VCA. I've never heard of so many problems with a 106 before, but the voices dying is pretty typical.

I would suggest getting a Juno 60 first. Its great to learn the basic ins and outs of subtractive synthesis, and its much more reliable than the 106. The only downfall is that it lacks MIDI, so you have to get a DCB to MIDI converter (Kenton makes a good one).

I would like to have a Matrix 1000 too, honestly. I want to catch one on eBay that goes for under $300, but all the ones I bid on seem to go just above it, or I lose at the last friggin' minute. Those synths are great, but if you want to edit the patches, you have to download an editor on your compy to do so. Kind of a pain if you're going for a full hands on approach for making music, but completely worth it if you don't mind doing some editing on a screen.

Juno won't really give you 303 sounds, but you'll get some nice bass... the typical "acid" sound is more about the sequencing than the actual noise used anyway...

I want a SH-101, but I can't find one anywhere for a decent price. :(

I have a shit load of tasty synths but I still want a proper 303 (preferably Devilfish) as there's still nothing that sounds quite like it and don't go on about x0x0b0x's or Revolutions cos they ain't the same either.

I highly recommend the Prophet 08 or Mopho which aren't that expensive 2nd hand (Tetras are still a little overpriced) although I had a lot of fun with my old Waldorf Pulse.

Soundwave-

Have you ever sat in a room with other acid enthusiasts and A/B'd a tb and an x0xb0x?

Thought not.

  On 3/4/2010 at 9:32 PM, acidphakist said:

Soundwave-

 

Have you ever sat in a room with other acid enthusiasts and A/B'd a tb and an x0xb0x?

 

Thought not.

the x0xb0x doesn't accent inn the same compressed punchy way and that weird tinkly feedback at high resonance settings isn't there

Like I said, you haven't actually A/B'd them, have you?

  On 3/4/2010 at 9:38 PM, acidphakist said:

Like I said, you haven't actually A/B'd them, have you?

prove me wrong

Prove yourself right.

  On 3/4/2010 at 9:42 PM, acidphakist said:

Prove yourself right.

I know I'm right, well at least on the x0x's I've heard and the testaments from various owners of both machines and I have owned a Revolution too.

Can you say the accents are the same on both machines and also has that strange tickly resonance thing that the real thing does?

  On 3/4/2010 at 9:43 PM, Retape said:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq39yd1OTTU

and this video completely avoids both the points I've made in fact you could have done the same thing with a revolution and got the same results!

Let's be fair: the Revolution does NOT belong in this discussion.

  On 3/4/2010 at 10:01 PM, acidphakist said:

Let's be fair: the Revolution does NOT belong in this discussion.

ok play me a x0xb0x with max resonance/accent settings with a few bassy note slides tweak the cutoff knob and see if you get the same as you would on a real TB303?

ok a better example make a x0x0box sound like this......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dS6WaYHqSsE

I'll work on it.

i bought a jomox m bass 01 today. it's fucking quality.

lol. once i finish this paper i'm gonna make a patch in reaktor or max or something that squelches just as hard as the 303. prepare to shit bricks. i'd love a 303, but i wouldn't love throwing down the 5g's it takes to get one. they're not worth even a quarter of that price in my opinion! analog synths are drastically overpriced for how hard/expensive they are to fab. in the demo video, there were maybe two points i could tell the difference. your track isn't made by the 303, its made with one. LELS.

on the topic, if i had the money i'd probably go for any of symbolic sound's products. i need a dsp blackbox.