Obama authorizes assassination of US citizen

Wow. I can't believe this country sometimes.

interesting...apparently Umar Farouk Abdulmutallab is being used as an intelligence source to the US about the Yemeni Al-Qaeda.

Who cares? The guy is clearly an odious militant shit with disgusting views.

i hope to god that most people in the world are less ignorant than those in this thread. its incredible to see some of you spout out painfully false and uneducated opinions about a subject so important. at least youre tryingto have an intelligent discussion. about 3 or 4 of you are well informed and educated, the rest of you are comparable to a flock of crows, squawking ignorant, uneducated, nonfactual disinformation. youve fallen into their trap once again, arguing about which "side" is in the right. just try to realize, that the establishment always serves you two choices on a silver platter, and your dumb self keeps picking one, over and over and over, and no real issues are really ever addressed. nor are any fundamental changes ever made to the system. you are their propaganda target, and youre going along with everything, exactly as you have been designed to. the presidential position exists only to give the illusion that you have a representative working for you. most people are too intellectually lazy to really come to terms with this concept and its implications. a rogue, corporate, criminal enterprise has infiltrated all of the governmental powers in every country, and are steering the entire planet, economically and politically, into an ultra hightech surveillance/control grid, for the ultimate plan to exterminate 95% - 99% of the entire population, and horribly enslave the remaining few. its that simple

this is the discussion. this is the issue. if someone brings up republicans and democrats and teabaggers again, im going to slap myself silly

  On 4/14/2010 at 2:00 PM, ET said:

i hope to god that most people in the world are less ignorant than those in this thread. its incredible to see some of you spout out painfully false and uneducated opinions about a subject so important. at least youre tryingto have an intelligent discussion. about 3 or 4 of you are well informed and educated, the rest of you are comparable to a flock of crows, squawking ignorant, uneducated, nonfactual disinformation. youve fallen into their trap once again, arguing about which "side" is in the right. just try to realize, that the establishment always serves you two choices on a silver platter, and your dumb self keeps picking one, over and over and over, and no real issues are really ever addressed. nor are any fundamental changes ever made to the system. you are their propaganda target, and youre going along with everything, exactly as you have been designed to. the presidential position exists only to give the illusion that you have a representative working for you. most people are too intellectually lazy to really come to terms with this concept and its implications. a rogue, corporate, criminal enterprise has infiltrated all of the governmental powers in every country, and are steering the entire planet, economically and politically, into an ultra hightech surveillance/control grid, for the ultimate plan to exterminate 95% - 99% of the entire population, and horribly enslave the remaining few. its that simple

 

this is the discussion. this is the issue. if someone brings up republicans and democrats and teabaggers again, im going to slap myself silly

when the shit goes down can I hide on your farm in Cornwall please dude?

I make a mean pasta sauce?

  On 4/14/2010 at 2:00 PM, ET said:

a rogue, corporate, criminal enterprise has infiltrated all of the governmental powers in every country, and are steering the entire planet, economically and politically, into an ultra hightech surveillance/control grid, for the ultimate plan to exterminate 95% - 99% of the entire population, and horribly enslave the remaining few.

I don't understand why this idea prevails. Wouldn't the corporations like having us spend money on them and their network of businesses? Why kill all the customers?

Although I suppose if all the left-overs of humanity are enslaved then currency becomes void and they can take anything they want.

It still doesn't make sense to me though. And for good reason, because it's not happening.

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I have no problem with this. Act like an enemy, be treated like an enemy, citizen or not.

  On 4/14/2010 at 2:00 PM, ET said:

i hope to god that most people in the world are less ignorant than those in this thread. its incredible to see some of you spout out painfully false and uneducated opinions about a subject so important. at least youre tryingto have an intelligent discussion. about 3 or 4 of you are well informed and educated, the rest of you are comparable to a flock of crows, squawking ignorant, uneducated, nonfactual disinformation. youve fallen into their trap once again, arguing about which "side" is in the right. just try to realize, that the establishment always serves you two choices on a silver platter, and your dumb self keeps picking one, over and over and over, and no real issues are really ever addressed. nor are any fundamental changes ever made to the system. you are their propaganda target, and youre going along with everything, exactly as you have been designed to. the presidential position exists only to give the illusion that you have a representative working for you. most people are too intellectually lazy to really come to terms with this concept and its implications. a rogue, corporate, criminal enterprise has infiltrated all of the governmental powers in every country, and are steering the entire planet, economically and politically, into an ultra hightech surveillance/control grid, for the ultimate plan to exterminate 95% - 99% of the entire population, and horribly enslave the remaining few. its that simple

 

this is the discussion. this is the issue. if someone brings up republicans and democrats and teabaggers again, im going to slap myself silly

I think we've just been under the control of some pretty greedy assholes the past 30 years. Clearly corporations have a strong hold on our political leaders, but I think with a little luck democracy will set their eyes on someone who carries some honesty and ethics. I think quite a number of our past Presidents were quite inspiring and did a lot to progress humanity. I think Obama is the ultimate pragmatist. He is completely willing to compromise against his base if it means he gets what he wants in the end (health care reform, the energy bill, jobs bill). New York times just ran this article on Obama's performance in foreign policy.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/14/world/14prexy.html?hp

Obama Puts His Own Mark on Foreign Policy Issues

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WASHINGTON — When he took office last year, President Obama told his foreign policy advisers that he had two baskets of issues to deal with. The first would be the legacy issues left from his predecessor, like Iraq, Afghanistan and America’s image in the world. The second would be his own agenda for the future.

 

After 15 months addressing the vexing matters he inherited, Mr. Obama is now aggressively advancing his own vision of foreign policy and defining himself more clearly on the world stage. The 47-nation conference on nuclear security he wrapped up on Tuesday represented a chance to assert proactive leadership rather than simply showing that he is not George W. Bush.

 

“Now he’s beginning to get back to the agenda that he came to office to do,” said Nancy E. Soderberg, a former diplomat and now president of The Connect U.S. Fund, a nonprofit group that promotes international engagement. “His legacy in domestic policy is likely to be health care. But his legacy in foreign policy is likely to be this nonproliferation agenda.”

 

The nuclear summit meeting came after weeks of a more assertive approach to international affairs, as Mr. Obama seeks to demonstrate strength in the face of assumptions overseas that he may be weak.

 

He refused to give in to Russian demands for limits on missile defense and came away with an arms control treaty that, while modest, sets the stage for better relations. He got into high-profile scraps with the leaders of Israel and Afghanistan. And now he faces a critical test of whether he can forge a coalition to impose new sanctions on Iran.

 

Mr. Obama in recent days has backed down in his clash with President Hamid Karzai of Afghanistan. But during his news conference closing the nuclear meeting on Tuesday, he seemed to signal a renewed determination to reinsert himself into the Israeli-Palestinian dispute.

 

By describing the long-running conflict as a threat to American security, he effectively adopted the argument of Gen. David H. Petraeus, his Middle East commander, who recently warned that the region’s troubles created a dangerous environment for American troops stationed in nearby Iraq and elsewhere in the area. “It is a vital national security interest of the United States to reduce these conflicts because whether we like it or not, we remain a dominant military superpower,” he said. “And when conflicts break out, one way or another, we get pulled into them. And that ends up costing us significantly in terms of both blood and treasure.”

 

For most new presidents, foreign policy is a learning experience, and it can take months, if not years, to feel comfortable in the role of world leader. Advisers said Mr. Obama, like his predecessors, had grown more confident in managing international relations over time.

 

But he has learned hard lessons along the way about the limits of his powers of persuasion.

 

He has acknowledged that he underestimated, for instance, just how hard it would be to bring Israelis and Palestinians together, and his engagement with Iran yielded no more cooperation than Mr. Bush’s approach.

 

If there is an Obama doctrine emerging, it is one much more realpolitik than his predecessor’s, focused on relations with traditional great powers and relegating issues like human rights and democracy to second-tier concerns. He has generated much more good will around the world after years of tension with Mr. Bush, and yet he does not seem to have strong personal friendships with many world leaders.

 

“Everybody always breaks it down between idealist and realist,” said Rahm Emanuel, the White House chief of staff. “If you had to put him in a category, he’s probably more realpolitik, like Bush 41,” the first President George Bush, Mr. Emanuel said.

 

He added, “He knows that personal relationships are important, but you’ve got to be cold-blooded about the self-interests of your nation.”

 

Stephen G. Rademaker, a former official in the George W. Bush administration, said: “For a president coming out of the liberal wing of the Democratic Party, it’s remarkable how much he has pursued a great power strategy. It’s almost Kissingerian. It’s not very sentimental. Issues of human rights do not loom large in his foreign policy, and issues of democracy promotion, he’s been almost dismissive of.”

 

Indeed, on the sidelines of the meeting, Mr. Obama met with leaders with poor human rights records, like President Nursultan Nazarbayev of Kazakhstan, a former Communist boss who has kept a firm grip on his former Soviet republic for two decades.

 

Mr. Nazarbayev, whose country has considerable oil and uranium resources, plastered Washington with newspaper and bus stop ads touting it as a responsible partner. Mr. Obama reached agreement with Mr. Nazarbayev to fly supplies to Afghanistan over Kazakhstan, with no real public criticism of the country.

 

During their private meeting, he told Mr. Nazarbayev “that we, too, are working to improve our democracy,” a White House official later told reporters, a comment interpreted as soft-pedaling concerns over repressive Kazakh rule. Aides later said that oversimplified the private conversation, and that in fact Mr. Obama spent considerable time talking with Mr. Nazarbayev about democracy and human rights behind closed doors.

 

Jennifer Windsor, executive director of Freedom House, an advocacy group that ranks Kazakhstan as “Not Free,” said she believed Mr. Obama was committed to promoting democracy, citing a recent meeting with democracy advocates. “The rhetoric is going the right way,” she said. “But it’s not really translated, as far as I can see, into coherent policy in some of the toughest places around the world.”

 

Other foreign policy specialists said that it simply reflected a more pragmatic view of the world. Expectations that other countries would bow to Mr. Obama’s wishes because he is more popular than his predecessor were always misplaced, they said, and they sometimes resist him, but not because they are testing him.

 

“All these other countries, they have their own interests,” said Representative Adam Smith, Democrat of Washington and a member of the House Armed Services Committee. “They don’t get out of bed in the morning thinking, ‘Gosh, how can I make America’s life better?’ ”

 

With health care behind him, Mr. Obama has an opportunity to focus on translating his vision for foreign policy into reality. “It’s both strengthened and liberated him so he could deal with other things with wind in his sails,” said Richard N. Haass, a former top official in George W. Bush’s State Department who now leads the Council on Foreign Relations.

 

The treaty with Russia, the nuclear meeting and other initiatives, he added, are the beginning of progress for Mr. Obama. “These are not transformational developments,” he said, “but in foreign policy it’s important to keep the ball moving down the field in the right direction, and that’s what’s happening.”

 

Let me just also add, that we are probably most definitely fucked if we head down the path of increased oil consumption and energy use... We have passed "peak oil" which means from here on out its all downhill. So unless CEO's want to ride humanity into the grave, they are going to need to move away from oil. Which is probably why we are seeing so much crap about "Green" .... Whoever leads the market there is going to be making big bucks down the line I bet

HAHAHA! i had no idea that WATMM had it's own tea party movement.

SHADOW GOVERNMENT OMG!!!!!

why are you talking about obama like he actually makes decisions? he is owned by incredibly rich, powerful, private interests. he is held hostage to them. the president does whatever he is told, and if he doesnt, he is punished with death threats, or they can just straight up kill you, like with kennedy

its a just a big show, one huge fraudulent lie to make all the karmakramers in the world think that the powers that be, are just greedy and selfish. yes...they are greedy and selfish, but its much more evil than that, they are working for a super class of elite control freaks, who poison the planets food and water supply, who stage false flag terror, who engage in war, and rearrange the very structure of society to make your life totally controlled and dependent on the very government which does nothing but serve the will of those who want you dead

see the difference between my opinion and yours, is that mine is based off of factual information that anyone can go find. yours is just some warped attempt to make sense of a corrupt, false government, which is obviously against you, yet you defend it to the death because you cant accept the reality of government. im not trying to attack you, or call you an idiot, but do you understand what im saying? most people are living in a drugged out, lackadaisical, mind controlled reality...literally, and when your inside of it, you have no idea whats actually going on. this, is whats going on....

in steel manufacturing, and other related industries, there are unwanted byproducts, substances that settle in the bottom of mixing vats and whatnot, that are extremely harmful to come in contact with. totally deadly. a small sniff of fumes will bring you down dead as a hammer. so companies have to deal with this byproduct, and by law, they are required to dispose of it safely, or store it. both of these are extremely expensive. so as a company, its a good business move to allow someone to take it off of your hands, for free. now who in their right mind would want this deadly substance? some looking to create a weapon, thats who

so the elite collect endless amounts of this substance, and in their labs and warehouses, add hundreds of various types of toxic chemicals and psychoactive drugs to the byproduct. now they have something really sick. next, they go to almost every populated city and town in every industrialized nation, and spend hundreds of millions of dollars, lobbying to city councils, to allow them to add this substance to the public water supply with the deceptive notion that it is for public health

this has been going on since the fifties. i dont think theres one person on this board who is over 60 years old, so that means every single one of you reading this right now, has been ingesting this substance in all of your food and water since you were born. the same goes with your parents. the effects of human ingesting this substance has been studied extensively. its causes cancer, destroys your organs, and obliterates brain cells. it rapes your IQ. that last effect is very important. they are already giving everyone cancer with food, water, chemtrails, chemicals, and vaccines. the substance is put in your and your families water, to put you and everyone you know, into a slow, gradual, deep, deep, psychological trance. thoughts become more scattered, memories fade away. general functionality is slowed, hindered, and distorted. eventually, the victim enters into a state of total apathy, significant IQ loss, permanent brain damage, a permanent drugged out psychedelic trance. fucked in the head

this is your government. these are the people you like to pretend are legitimate. your are not bad for not knowing this. most people never do. you are bad though if you just ignore it. wake up, do the responsible thing, and have the honesty to admit that you know this is all real and happening. time to grow up

ET, i agree, but to be honest , i don't care.

In fact , if the NWO offers me work , i would accept and work for them.(without giving it a second thought)

There's no crazy like ET crazy. <3

  On 4/14/2010 at 3:13 PM, ET said:

 

 

this has been going on since the fifties. i dont think theres one person on this board who is over 60 years old, so that means every single one of you reading this right now, has been ingesting this substance in all of your food and water since you were born. the same goes with your parents. the effects of human ingesting this substance has been studied extensively. its causes cancer, destroys your organs, and obliterates brain cells. it rapes your IQ. that last effect is very important. they are already giving everyone cancer with food, water, chemtrails, chemicals, and vaccines. the substance is put in your and your families water, to put you and everyone you know, into a slow, gradual, deep, deep, psychological trance. thoughts become more scattered, memories fade away. general functionality is slowed, hindered, and distorted. eventually, the victim enters into a state of total apathy, significant IQ loss, permanent brain damage, a permanent drugged out psychedelic trance. fucked in the head

 

cough*AlexJones*cough

This is fucking truth , the autism has grown at alarming rates.

ET , there is nothing you or I can do.

The Reptilian Dynasty has been ruling this planet since the Sumerians , nothing will destroy their empire , not you , not alex jones , nobody.

Basically what I'm saying is , stop worrying , enjoy life.

are you referring to our .. precious bodily fluids?

the likeliest cause of the "increase" in autism is more older fathers still creating babies. It has been proven not to be related to vaccines. You guys are cuckoo.

Its also been proven that early vaccines contained high level of mercury causing autism in kids.

no, you're wrong.

LOL, have I staggered into the David Icke forums by mistake?

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/