Aphex Twin Windowlicker as an Influence

I don't know my Aphex Twin history so well, so forgive me.

But it seems to be that there was a point after Windowlicker where artists (Jackson comes to mind) were making 110-120BPM tracks with compressed beats and strong weird sidechaining. I only notice this because prior to this it looks like warp-style artists were more focussed on fast complex stuff or acid stuff. (I'm generalising, I don't know my shit at all).

So did Aphex start a new trend? Or was it a trend that was developing at the time that he just seemed similar to? Or was this not his first track in that style? Or was it just as people started using computers they experimented with hyper-processing the textures instead of intricate drum programming?

i have no idea about anything musically technical but i can appreciate that windowlicker is a masterstroke (lol) and masterstrokes are frequently influential

As far as I know, RDJ was way ahead of most artists involving computers, he started as early as '94, if I'm not mistaken (HAB released in '95), so I would say yeah, he's a definite influence. Especially b/c Windowlicker was so popular, everyone was like "Computers for music? YAY"

The only other track ever that makes me think of Windowlicker is that Kritical Audio ripoff. And Windowlicker, being the "parody" that it was borrows more from house production of the time (deep diva crap, impending minimal vibes) no warping textural madness there i believe, besides the all-out crush wash at the end of course. So no, personally, i think Jackson was the innovator in that regard, and if not he just pushed the envelope that Mr. Oizo (fellow Frenchman and maybe big influence) laid out with Analog Worms Attack (also released in 1999, and if you listen to anything on it besides Flat Beat, it's pretty distortion- and compression-heavy).

  On 4/23/2010 at 4:54 AM, Lube Saibot said:

The only other track ever that makes me think of Windowlicker is that Kritical Audio ripoff. And Windowlicker, being the "parody" that it was borrows more from house production of the time (deep diva crap, impending minimal vibes) no warping textural madness there i believe, besides the all-out crush wash at the end of course. So no, personally, i think Jackson was the innovator in that regard, and if not he just pushed the envelope that Mr. Oizo (fellow Frenchman and maybe big influence) laid out with Analog Worms Attack (also released in 1999, and if you listen to anything on it besides Flat Beat, it's pretty distortion- and compression-heavy).

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Nah man, technology-wise you clearly have a point. Other than the demoscene there wasn't as much going on with fully-computer production besides maybe Britney Spears albums done on Pro Tools and movie score composition. But LAPTOP MUSIC? PSHAW? Then a freaky ginger from Cornwall shat in the world's mouth with Windowlicker, Come to Daddy and Drukqs in rapid succession.

you both make valid points, thanks.

i was thinking about this the other day, but when I made the post I couldn't think of any similar songs or artists. You know what I mean though, the kind of stuff you'd mix with it in a DJ set that's sort of similar. (I think that half the reason i started this thread is to find some examples actually)

i've never heard Oizo's first album, but I've heard it described as a pre-cursor to dubstep.

  On 4/23/2010 at 4:40 AM, Backson said:

I don't know my Aphex Twin history so well, so forgive me.

 

But it seems to be that there was a point after Windowlicker where artists (Jackson comes to mind) were making 110-120BPM tracks with compressed beats and strong weird sidechaining. I only notice this because prior to this it looks like warp-style artists were more focussed on fast complex stuff or acid stuff. (I'm generalising, I don't know my shit at all).

 

So did Aphex start a new trend? Or was it a trend that was developing at the time that he just seemed similar to? Or was this not his first track in that style? Or was it just as people started using computers they experimented with hyper-processing the textures instead of intricate drum programming?

very windowlicker influenced, and absolutely brilliant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ubzEcpIKpU

I'd say some of the 'big-beat' artists of the latter part of the 90s were using similar sort of production techniques, though I can't off hand think of some good examples .....

  On 4/23/2010 at 10:34 AM, kaini said:

  On 4/23/2010 at 4:40 AM, Backson said:

I don't know my Aphex Twin history so well, so forgive me.

 

But it seems to be that there was a point after Windowlicker where artists (Jackson comes to mind) were making 110-120BPM tracks with compressed beats and strong weird sidechaining. I only notice this because prior to this it looks like warp-style artists were more focussed on fast complex stuff or acid stuff. (I'm generalising, I don't know my shit at all).

 

So did Aphex start a new trend? Or was it a trend that was developing at the time that he just seemed similar to? Or was this not his first track in that style? Or was it just as people started using computers they experimented with hyper-processing the textures instead of intricate drum programming?

 

very windowlicker influenced, and absolutely brilliant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ubzEcpIKpU

The Soundtrack to my Drug-Escapades.

see also:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otqx6qGHhPU

  On 4/23/2010 at 10:34 AM, kaini said:

  On 4/23/2010 at 4:40 AM, Backson said:

I don't know my Aphex Twin history so well, so forgive me.

 

But it seems to be that there was a point after Windowlicker where artists (Jackson comes to mind) were making 110-120BPM tracks with compressed beats and strong weird sidechaining. I only notice this because prior to this it looks like warp-style artists were more focussed on fast complex stuff or acid stuff. (I'm generalising, I don't know my shit at all).

 

So did Aphex start a new trend? Or was it a trend that was developing at the time that he just seemed similar to? Or was this not his first track in that style? Or was it just as people started using computers they experimented with hyper-processing the textures instead of intricate drum programming?

 

very windowlicker influenced, and absolutely brilliant

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ubzEcpIKpU

that's great, thanks!

I've only heard this and "Idiot Clapsolo" by James Holden, and they are both very good. I might have to invest in an album of his...