Why is the United States so fucking Fat.

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:15 PM, hautlle said:

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:01 PM, ruiagnelo said:

  On 5/21/2010 at 10:56 PM, messiaen said:

pretty sure america has existed basically as long as europe.

 

Well, that's true. Both lands have been there since the begining.

 

The continental shield in Canada contains some of the oldest rock on the Earth.

 

America is fat because we like to watch TV, eat high calorie foods and drive our cars. Our cities were not built hundreds or thousands of years ago when people could only walk or ride an animal. We're a very spread out nation. The UK is 683.5 miles (1100km) north to south and 302 miles (486 km) at its widest point. My state is 400 miles east to west and roughly 200 miles north to south. That's almost as large as your entire country...

Oh ok, so the problem is the amount of area. Fine. It's pretty impressive how you resume a health problem of an entire nation with just a simple reason.

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:19 PM, ruiagnelo said:

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:15 PM, hautlle said:

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:01 PM, ruiagnelo said:

  On 5/21/2010 at 10:56 PM, messiaen said:

pretty sure america has existed basically as long as europe.

 

Well, that's true. Both lands have been there since the begining.

 

The continental shield in Canada contains some of the oldest rock on the Earth.

 

America is fat because we like to watch TV, eat high calorie foods and drive our cars. Our cities were not built hundreds or thousands of years ago when people could only walk or ride an animal. We're a very spread out nation. The UK is 683.5 miles (1100km) north to south and 302 miles (486 km) at its widest point. My state is 400 miles east to west and roughly 200 miles north to south. That's almost as large as your entire country...

 

Oh ok, so the problem is the amount of area. Fine. It's pretty impressive how you resume a health problem of an entire nation with just a simple reason.

How far do you have to travel to get to a grocery store? How often do you drive to work? How far?

I also listed a couple other reason up there...

How small is your penis?

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:15 PM, hautlle said:

The UK is 683.5 miles (1100km) north to south

I drive 700 miles to get to my mom's house. I eat fast food and salty and sugary snacks all the way there.

people are fat because they are idiots, or in rare cases, ill. idiots are everywhere.

not idiots sorry, just like. lazy.

I understand the "old world" slow food, local tradition, locally grown culture, and believe it or not, there are analogues in the States, especially in the big multicultural areas. The best part is, there's not just one local tradition at play, there's a whole world of them, and sometimes they remain distinct and sometimes they come together in really interesting, delicious ways.

You just have to know where to look. Unfortunately, save for places with strong farmers' markets, places like that can be a little (or a lot) pricey in the States, and they're sort of marginalized in the mainstream as elitist commie hippie liberal food; but mainstream US media is nothing if not heavily pro-corporate in its agenda (this should not be a controversial point given the ownership of mainstream media outlets), and slow, locally grown food falls outside of that.

And yeah, unfortunately a lot of the good stuff is closed off to the poorer folks, who are heavily targeted by ads for $1 cheeseburgers. If you look at modern McDonald's commercials, you'll see that they're now very "multicultural" to appeal better to poorer black and Hispanic families. It's sad. And the obestity epidemic is very tied to economic class.

It's also tied to overconsumption (of course), and even if the a Big Mac isn't any worse for you than some fried Portuguese sausage thing, or whatever, portion sizes have been pushed upward in a bit of a fast-food arm's race, and it's trained Americans to eat a lot more, even of the good stuff, when they can get it. And to eat it quickly, so that the portion size doesn't register.

Ironically, there's still a myth of the local American family farm; it's borderline nonexistent now, and the places that sell in the farmers markets are struggling to survive against a very powerful industrial farm (think Monsanto) lobby, who get ridiculous subsidies in part because they fall back upon the image of the struggling family farm. At the same time, the cheap, environmentally destructive green revolution industrialized farm shit is precisely what feeds poor people, and a huge country, cheaply.

I'm not trying to come across as a raging hippie, but I am trying to say the US has a very complicated relationship with food, and it's best not to jump to broad conclusions about it. 'Tis a big, messy place, and that's both a blessing and a curse.

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:21 PM, hautlle said:

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:19 PM, ruiagnelo said:

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:15 PM, hautlle said:

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:01 PM, ruiagnelo said:

  On 5/21/2010 at 10:56 PM, messiaen said:

pretty sure america has existed basically as long as europe.

 

Well, that's true. Both lands have been there since the begining.

 

The continental shield in Canada contains some of the oldest rock on the Earth.

 

America is fat because we like to watch TV, eat high calorie foods and drive our cars. Our cities were not built hundreds or thousands of years ago when people could only walk or ride an animal. We're a very spread out nation. The UK is 683.5 miles (1100km) north to south and 302 miles (486 km) at its widest point. My state is 400 miles east to west and roughly 200 miles north to south. That's almost as large as your entire country...

 

Oh ok, so the problem is the amount of area. Fine. It's pretty impressive how you resume a health problem of an entire nation with just a simple reason.

 

 

How far do you have to travel to get to a grocery store? How often do you drive to work? How far?

I actually live outside the city, not to far, but outside. And i do need a car to go the classes or everything else i do if its on the city. A lot of people in my country live outside the city and need to travel by car to work. More than you can imagine.

Look, i know how the great american cities work, at least i have an idea and i guess it's not that easy. But that is no excuse. Having to travel long distances will make you eat crappy food or lack sport activity?

Please.

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:23 PM, messiaen said:

people are fat because they are idiots, or in rare cases, ill. idiots are everywhere.

 

not idiots sorry, just like. lazy.

Its really poorly articulated but this is why.

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:26 PM, ruiagnelo said:

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:21 PM, hautlle said:

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:19 PM, ruiagnelo said:

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:15 PM, hautlle said:

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:01 PM, ruiagnelo said:

  On 5/21/2010 at 10:56 PM, messiaen said:

pretty sure america has existed basically as long as europe.

 

Well, that's true. Both lands have been there since the begining.

 

The continental shield in Canada contains some of the oldest rock on the Earth.

 

America is fat because we like to watch TV, eat high calorie foods and drive our cars. Our cities were not built hundreds or thousands of years ago when people could only walk or ride an animal. We're a very spread out nation. The UK is 683.5 miles (1100km) north to south and 302 miles (486 km) at its widest point. My state is 400 miles east to west and roughly 200 miles north to south. That's almost as large as your entire country...

 

Oh ok, so the problem is the amount of area. Fine. It's pretty impressive how you resume a health problem of an entire nation with just a simple reason.

 

 

How far do you have to travel to get to a grocery store? How often do you drive to work? How far?

 

I actually live outside the city, not to far, but outside. And i do need a car to go the classes or everything else i do if its on the city. A lot of people in my country live outside the city and need to travel by car to work. More than you can imagine.

 

Look, i know how the great american cities work, at least i have an idea and i guess it's not that easy. But that is no excuse. Having to travel long distances will make you eat crappy food or lack sport activity?

 

Please.

I never said that was THE cause... I listed it as part of the problem along with poor diet, and lack of physical activity (ie TV watching)

fuck man what do you have to prove here?

you cant argue with someone in english with a poor grasp of english

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:27 PM, chassis said:

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:23 PM, messiaen said:

people are fat because they are idiots, or in rare cases, ill. idiots are everywhere.

 

not idiots sorry, just like. lazy.

 

Its really poorly articulated but this is why.

your mum was poorly articulated in bed last night

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:25 PM, baph said:

I understand the "old world" slow food, local tradition, locally grown culture, and believe it or not, there are analogues in the States, especially in the big multicultural areas. The best part is, there's not just one local tradition at play, there's a whole world of them, and sometimes they remain distinct and sometimes they come together in really interesting, delicious ways.

 

You just have to know where to look. Unfortunately, save for places with strong farmers' markets, places like that can be a little (or a lot) pricey in the States, and they're sort of marginalized in the mainstream as elitist commie hippie liberal food; but mainstream US media is nothing if not heavily pro-corporate in its agenda (this should not be a controversial point given the ownership of mainstream media outlets), and slow, locally grown food falls outside of that.

 

And yeah, unfortunately a lot of the good stuff is closed off to the poorer folks, who are heavily targeted by ads for $1 cheeseburgers. If you look at modern McDonald's commercials, you'll see that they're now very "multicultural" to appeal better to poorer black and Hispanic families. It's sad. And the obestity epidemic is very tied to economic class.

 

It's also tied to overconsumption (of course), and even if the a Big Mac isn't any worse for you than some fried Portuguese sausage thing, or whatever, portion sizes have been pushed upward in a bit of a fast-food arm's race, and it's trained Americans to eat a lot more, even of the good stuff, when they can get it. And to eat it quickly, so that the portion size doesn't register.

 

Ironically, there's still a myth of the local American family farm; it's borderline nonexistent now, and the places that sell in the farmers markets are struggling to survive against a very powerful industrial farm (think Monsanto) lobby, who get ridiculous subsidies in part because they fall back upon the image of the struggling family farm. At the same time, the cheap, environmentally destructive green revolution industrialized farm shit is precisely what feeds poor people, and a huge country, cheaply.

 

I'm not trying to come across as a raging hippie, but I am trying to say the US has a very complicated relationship with food, and it's best not to jump to broad conclusions about it. 'Tis a big, messy place, and that's both a blessing and a curse.

thank god this post occurred.

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:30 PM, messiaen said:

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:27 PM, chassis said:

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:23 PM, messiaen said:

people are fat because they are idiots, or in rare cases, ill. idiots are everywhere.

 

not idiots sorry, just like. lazy.

 

Its really poorly articulated but this is why.

 

your mum was poorly articulated in bed last night

You're alright son.

and you'RE dad gives a shit bj

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:29 PM, hautlle said:

 

fuck man what do you have to prove here?

I don't need to prove anything. We are just talking. Why do you get offended by simple conversations and opinions?

In the end it's like balph said:

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US has a very complicated relationship with food, and it's best not to jump to broad conclusions about it. 'Tis a big, messy place, and that's both a blessing and a curse.

I tried to explain how it works in europe. I didn't take conclusions on how it works in there, because i don't even know. I don't usually talk about something that is out of my knowledge.

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:36 PM, ruiagnelo said:

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:29 PM, hautlle said:

 

fuck man what do you have to prove here?

 

 

I don't need to prove anything. We are just talking. Why do you get offended by simple conversations and opinions?

 

In the end it's like balph said:

 

  Quote

US has a very complicated relationship with food, and it's best not to jump to broad conclusions about it. 'Tis a big, messy place, and that's both a blessing and a curse.

 

I tried to explain how it works in europe. I didn't take conclusions on how it works in there, because i don't even know. I don't usually talk about something that is out of my knowledge.

Because you present your opinions like they are the end-all of the subject. You're trying to tell us how it is, when by your own admissions, you don't know... You came off as a prick quite frankly.

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:40 PM, hautlle said:

 

Because you present your opinions like they are the end-all of the subject. You're trying to tell us how it is, when by your own admissions, you don't know... You came off as a prick quite frankly.

I won't continue this discussion anymore, not if my opinions are taken as insults. Now you are saying that i don't even understand my own context, where i live. I really lost the will to talk on this subject. Keep doing as you always did and eating like you do. I don't really care.

thread locked. new topic:

Mashed potaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaatoes.

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:47 PM, Lube Saibot said:

 

Looks good!

A wise man once told me that it's better to be fat than have an arse for a mind.

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:50 PM, thejacketloose said:

A wise man once told me that it's better to be fat than have an arse for a mind.

Imagine if he wasn't a fat wise man

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:47 PM, Lube Saibot said:

wazzat? gimme some?

I don't have to, cos he wasn't.

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:44 PM, ruiagnelo said:

  On 5/21/2010 at 11:40 PM, hautlle said:

 

Because you present your opinions like they are the end-all of the subject. You're trying to tell us how it is, when by your own admissions, you don't know... You came off as a prick quite frankly.

 

I won't continue this discussion anymore, not if my opinions are taken as insults. Now you are saying that i don't even understand my own context, where i live. I really lost the will to talk on this subject. Keep doing as you always did and eating like you do. I don't really care.

I never argued that you don't know how it is in your own country. My point is this: What is the name of the thread? "Why is the United States so fucking Fat", right? By your own admission you don't know the whole story. I gave a few examples of why obesity is becoming more and more of a problem, and you jumped on one and dismissed it.

And now you're judging me based on my eating habits when, surprise surprise, YOU DON'T KNOW THEM. Congrats on being an ass.