Guest Mirezzi Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 (edited) Cody, I don't think I'm hating for the sake of hating anymore than you're showing an inability to entertain a critical perspective. I'm just throwing out ideas here, however divergent. I thought Nolan had developed a lot as a filmmaker with The Prestige and, yes, The Dark Knight. I think he took several steps backward in every measure except scale and budget with Inception. The fact that it's a script he's been working on for ten years comes as no surprise to me because it stinks of his Memento-era gimmicky nonsense. His achilles heal, IMO, is far too often looking for excuses to populate the silver screen with guns, car chases, explosions, and clunky plots punctuated with sleights of hand. I imagine him holding meetings with his smartest friends and family to discuss the script for Inception. "Okay, guys, HIT ME. Expose holes in this dream universe so I can patch them up with my newest character, Ariadne. Yeah. Anybody want more coffee? Isn't that a cool name? Ariadne. Hey, what did you all think of Juno? Ariadne. Cool. Yeah. Ellen Page is neat. I think Facebook kids will like that." So yeah, if I have a different read of the movie than you, don't take it personally and get all fanboy on me. This thread will turn really boring if all you welcome are people saying "love it!" repeatedly. Edited July 22, 2010 by The Overlook Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/11/#findComment-1378170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blicero Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 On 7/22/2010 at 10:15 PM, The Overlook said: Cody, I don't think I'm hating for the sake of hating anymore than you're showing an inability to entertain a critical perspective. I'm just throwing out ideas here, however divergent. I thought Nolan had developed a lot as a filmmaker with The Prestige and, yes, The Dark Knight. I think he took several steps backward in every measure except scale and budget with Inception. The fact that it's a script he's been working on for ten years comes as no surprise to me because it stinks of his Memento-era gimmicky nonsense. His achilles heal, IMO, is far too often looking for excuses to populate the silver screen with guns, car chases, explosions, and clunky plots punctuated with sleights of hand. I imagine him holding meetings with his smartest friends and family to discuss the script for Inception. "Okay, guys, HIT ME. Expose holes in this dream universe so I can patch them up with my newest character, Ariadne. Yeah. Anybody want more coffee? Isn't that a cool name? Ariadne. Hey, what did you all think of Juno? Ariadne. Cool. Yeah. Ellen Page is neat. I think Facebook kids will like that." So yeah, if I have a different read of the movie than you, don't take it personally and get all fanboy on me. This thread will turn really boring if all you welcome are people saying "love it!" repeatedly. at least your criticism is filled with substance. oh, wait – Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/11/#findComment-1378173 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mirezzi Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 On 7/22/2010 at 10:22 PM, blicero said: at least your criticism is filled with substance. oh, wait – Really, are my criticisms less substantive than the praise being heaped on it? You have found nothing of substance in my posts? Really? "I liked it because Nolan tried neat things with cameras." WTFever....twist a fanboy's ear and watch them squeal. Same as it ever was. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/11/#findComment-1378175 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blicero Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 On 7/22/2010 at 10:25 PM, The Overlook said: On 7/22/2010 at 10:22 PM, blicero said: at least your criticism is filled with substance. oh, wait – Really, are my criticisms less substantive than the praise being heaped on it? You have found nothing of substance in my posts? Really? "I liked it because Nolan tried neat things with cameras." WTFever....twist a fanboy's ear and watch them squeal. Same as it ever was. i didn't even know who directed it until i saw it. so, a fanboy i am not. also, i hope you are not suggesting that quote represents my PoV on the film. I'll thank you to not put words in my mouth, lest you'd like me to put my throbbing cock in yours. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/11/#findComment-1378182 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mirezzi Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 The quote, in essence, belonged to Atop. However, I cannot believe how precious you fuckers are being about this gd movie. lol. Anybody who doesn't like it is either A. retarded or B. of no substance. Please, skewer me with your throbbing cock if it makes you feel better about your beloved Inception you fucking pussy. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/11/#findComment-1378186 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blicero Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 On 7/22/2010 at 10:34 PM, The Overlook said: The quote, in essence, belonged to Atop. However, I cannot believe how precious you fuckers are being about this gd movie. lol. Anybody who doesn't like it is either A. retarded or B. of no substance. Please, skewer me with your throbbing cock if it makes you feel better about your beloved Inception you fucking pussy. nolan = hitler i want your pube mound. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/11/#findComment-1378189 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mirezzi Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 http://rogerebert.suntimes.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20100721/REVIEWS/100729997 Another doozy from Ebert. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/11/#findComment-1378191 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blicero Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 ebert's pube mound is ample. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/11/#findComment-1378198 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 (edited) Ben: Alright, you got me there....not gonna see that one But I am not loving Inception for the neat camera tricks.... I love the sets, the music, the shots, the story.... and I am also not just picking a fight with you because you dislike something I really like, I just find your arguments petty and ungrounded.....seems to me you are hating the hype, which I can understand but this film is an exception in my mind... I think it is a lot better than Dark Knight or any his other films except The Prestige, which I love as well.... I definitely don't think the writing of this film was as trite as you made it out to be...there were no facebook or focus group references, perhaps to friends in the film business whom he trusts opinions from, but none of that banal shit you made up, funny as it is...that didn't happen and perhaps... just a bit.... there is some jealousy going on....? and you know I think you are good at this medium as well, so I am waiting for the day when I can say, "I kind of know this guy and isn't this film amazing?!?" Edited July 22, 2010 by Atop Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/11/#findComment-1378205 Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmakramer Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 This is the first thread where the Overlook and I can agree 100%... (im repeating myself, I know) aside from the concept, this movie was mostly lackluster/disappointing. The plot carried little emotion, the action was boring for the most part (also because I didn't care for any of the characters), and its biggest mistake is it took itself waay too seriously for an action/science fiction film. I didn't get any sense of charm or personality from the characters... actually I will say I probably cared more for the asian billionare just cause he seemed the most real. Everyone else seemed dazed and broken. The music was good and so was the cinematography, but it all seems very forgetful. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/11/#findComment-1378207 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 It isn't karma and your beloved Avatar pales in comparison..... sure the effects were pretty in Avatar but story wise, it holds no candle... I think you need to see it again... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/11/#findComment-1378211 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest blicero Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 everyone is completely missing the point: pube mound. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/11/#findComment-1378223 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred McGriff Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 i dont get the ellen paige hate. is it because i havent seen juno? i find her perfectly ok. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/11/#findComment-1378225 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 (edited) films like Juno and Whip It caused her to be looked upon as this smart ass little girl-woman whom probably can only play this type of role... Inception and her SNL episode changed that vision of her for me... She is a fine actress... sexy little thing.... I want to pube her mound!!! Edited July 22, 2010 by Atop Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/11/#findComment-1378237 Share on other sites More sharing options...
essines Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 trailer park boys. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide essines's signature Hide all signatures On 8/19/2011 at 11:51 PM, Luke Fucking Hazard said: Essines has, and always will remind me of MacReady. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/11/#findComment-1378239 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 fishing cat Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/11/#findComment-1378245 Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmakramer Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 On 7/22/2010 at 10:56 PM, Atop said: It isn't karma and your beloved Avatar pales in comparison..... sure the effects were pretty in Avatar but story wise, it holds no candle... I think you need to see it again... Avatar is pure cheese/entertainment... Inception is trying to be something beyond a blockbuster but fails. I laugh at people who take my appreciation for Avatar so seriously they think I would classify it as a fine piece of art or something Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/11/#findComment-1378246 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 Thanks for laughing at me.... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/11/#findComment-1378249 Share on other sites More sharing options...
karmakramer Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 On 7/22/2010 at 11:23 PM, Atop said: Thanks for laughing at me.... Thanks for making me laugh Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/11/#findComment-1378261 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 OK OK...all kidding aside karma This film is idm as fuck! and you not liking it makes me worried for your sanity as an idm aficionado.... the soundtrack alone! fuck man! this is the next best score to Vagelis' Blade Runner! AHHHHHH! I AM YELLING AT YOU! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/11/#findComment-1378269 Share on other sites More sharing options...
baph Posted July 22, 2010 Report Share Posted July 22, 2010 Ok, ok, the score isn't that good. It's wonderful for Zimmer , but it's not that good. lol, 'vagelis.' That needs to be a grindcore band now. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/11/#findComment-1378271 Share on other sites More sharing options...
kcinsu Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 I don't see why everyone is so hung up on the lack of bizzaro dream stuff. it's not a lucid dream... it's a carefully crafted world in the architects mind. it's not just going into the dream of the victim... it's bringing the victim into a constructed world in someone ELSEs head... or at the very least, it's in the victims head, but the entire reality of it is constructed by someone else. So the entire dream is a construction of a different person.... and like they said in the movie, when the mind notices thoughts that arent theirs, it freaks out... so the best thing to do, is make the dream world as run as the mill as possible.... so no person would ever have something stick out as wrong. we get the crazy effects to show it all works the the n00b, but as far as the mission goes, it wouldnt be good. and if anyone ever compares Zimmer to Vangelis again, I'll cut them. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/11/#findComment-1378302 Share on other sites More sharing options...
sysyphus Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 On 7/23/2010 at 12:24 AM, Kcinsu said: and if anyone ever compares Zimmer to Vangelis again, I'll cut them. i'm gonna have to agree here. i liked the movie and the music, but comparing it to bladerunner...ACK Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide sysyphus's signature Hide all signatures publius enigma Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/11/#findComment-1378305 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atop Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 (edited) fuck you guys I am out of here! Edited July 23, 2010 by Atop Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Atop's signature Hide all signatures music by ATOPdj mixes by ATOP https://woodbetweenworlds.bandcamp.com/album/777 https://auralcanyonmusic.bandcamp.com/album/once-i-was-as-you-are-now Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/11/#findComment-1378309 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gary C Posted July 23, 2010 Report Share Posted July 23, 2010 Yeah, I'm bored of arguing or critically thinking about this film anymore. It's fine. It's the best big-budget summer blockbuster you'll find, but it's not perfect. Nothing will ever be perfect anyway. See you all when the Batman hype really starts. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/56592-inception-chris-nolan-leo-dicaprio-best-movie-of-the-summer/page/11/#findComment-1378313 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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