Reason 5

well that's too bad they changed the note programming but I used Reaper for all my midi sequencing out to reason and vsts and shit so it will have no effect on me.

*I *use* Reaper for that shit* and encourage everyone else to use a Rewire and make Reason your bitch along with many other tools at your disposal rather than relying on one program without VST capability.....

stopped in version 3 which had the fucking worst sequencer and was an awful way for me to start making music on a computer

sometimes i think about going back because of all the bells and whistles but its just that software shit i hate when they have to make specific file extensions and idiosyncrasies for their packs, features, and all that all bullshit instead of just letting you use the program as an interaction with your cpu. nearly all the big DAWs are guilty of this to some extent but i find reason especially candy coated

then again i quit at v3 so someone give me a reason to try the new one

edit: just read blanket fort collapse's post and maybe i could see using reason with rewire but then again seems like a headache(crashes, incompatibility) that is maybe worth avoiding anyway

rewire with ableton is virtually flawless, although i've never used it in a track, i've done some testing, as I was a die hard reason fan for a long time. No longer however.

  On 9/24/2010 at 5:48 AM, sneaksta303 said:

rewire with ableton is virtually flawless, although i've never used it in a track, i've done some testing, as I was a die hard reason fan for a long time. No longer however.

I accept full responsibility.

I am thankful. Very much so.

I acquired Reason 4 recently, and just looking at it for a few minutes, I felt my head would explode... I don't understand it at all.

Borgore uses Reason

  On 9/24/2010 at 9:35 AM, Sprigg said:

I acquired Reason 4 recently, and just looking at it for a few minutes, I felt my head would explode... I don't understand it at all.

mixer at top. transport at bottom. synths, samplers and fx in the middle. tab flips them all around so you can play with the routing.

the main window contains the reason rack and also has the sequencer folded into it. you can detatch the sequencer into its own window with the little white buttons at the top of the scroll bar on the right side.

or read any of the billions of reason tutorials available for free on their website or youtube or rest of interweb. there is also probably a "getting started" PDF somewhere included in the install.

E-Z.

some days i want to just work 100% in reason but then i see my hardware looking lonely and feel guilty...

hahaha I know how you feel iamabe. I might try to use rewire again with it. I lost interest back when I had a slow machine, but now mine might handle it.

  On 9/24/2010 at 7:28 PM, iamabe said:

  On 9/24/2010 at 9:35 AM, Sprigg said:

I acquired Reason 4 recently, and just looking at it for a few minutes, I felt my head would explode... I don't understand it at all.

 

mixer at top. transport at bottom. synths, samplers and fx in the middle. tab flips them all around so you can play with the routing.

 

the main window contains the reason rack and also has the sequencer folded into it. you can detatch the sequencer into its own window with the little white buttons at the top of the scroll bar on the right side.

 

or read any of the billions of reason tutorials available for free on their website or youtube or rest of interweb. there is also probably a "getting started" PDF somewhere included in the install.

 

E-Z.

 

some days i want to just work 100% in reason but then i see my hardware looking lonely and feel guilty...

Awesome, thanks man.

Hey, does anyone know how to get the audio input working on Reason 5? Ableton and Audacity both record input from my mic but Reason refuses to read it...

Reason only records audio for the use in the samplers, NNXT, Kong, Redrum.

To get the level of audio recording as with Live you need to have Record.

In the Help menu there is a link to video tutorials One of which Sampling which explains it better than I could.

reason 5... so hot right now

Just to be clear... REWIRING REASON THROUGH A D.A.W., CONTROLLING IT VIA MIDI, MAKING IT YOUR BITCH IS INCREDIBLY EASY AND STABLE. Don't be lazy, try it yourself kids.

  On 9/28/2010 at 3:46 AM, Blanket Fort Collapse said:

Just to be clear... REWIRING REASON THROUGH A D.A.W., CONTROLLING IT VIA MIDI, MAKING IT YOUR BITCH IS INCREDIBLY EASY AND STABLE. Don't be lazy, try it yourself kids.

yep. but the appeal of reezin for me is for when im lazy and just want everything in one place.

.. you can still have that... I use two monitors have reason on the right and my sequencer (my D.A.W. ((I use Cockos Reaper but I used to use Cubase Sx3 and both work great for this)) which is way more effective for controlling everything and mixing and mastering AUDIO) is on the left. Its fucking awesome, it's MORE efficient and obviously more limitless than just using Reason by itself.

It's not like you get confused when using a DAW rewiring Reason, it just gives you way more options and you can decide to just use the Reason sequencer or use the DAW's sequencer instead.

Or both... add VSTs on top of Reason.. Record audio etc. Its better than using Propellerheads Record or Reason by itself in all ways man.

I know you can only record audio with Redrum and the sample players...still not picking up any mic input in any way though, the lights on Audio input one and two are going red...This was one of the features i was looking forward to the most with Reason 5...same happened when I got the Beta version of Record. Can anyone help??

Curious about Reason 5. How is the new drum synthesizer? How is the sequencer?

Hate the Reason 4 sequencer. I don't know why, working with the rack is so great and fixing it in the sequencer sucks ass. Any improvements?

  On 9/28/2010 at 4:17 AM, Blanket Fort Collapse said:

.. you can still have that... I use two monitors have reason on the right and my sequencer (my D.A.W. ((I use Cockos Reaper but I used to use Cubase Sx3 and both work great for this)) which is way more effective for controlling everything and mixing and mastering AUDIO) is on the left. Its fucking awesome, it's MORE efficient and obviously more limitless than just using Reason by itself.

 

It's not like you get confused when using a DAW rewiring Reason, it just gives you way more options and you can decide to just use the Reason sequencer or use the DAW's sequencer instead.

 

Or both... add VSTs on top of Reason.. Record audio etc. Its better than using Propellerheads Record or Reason by itself in all ways man.

mm, word, i've rewired before and it does work well. its my preferred method, but some times i like being lazy and just using 100% reason.

i'm having a beef with Live lately... I think I might try reaper. I've heard nothing but good things about it.

  On 9/28/2010 at 3:46 AM, Blanket Fort Collapse said:

Just to be clear... REWIRING REASON THROUGH A D.A.W., CONTROLLING IT VIA MIDI, MAKING IT YOUR BITCH IS INCREDIBLY EASY AND STABLE. Don't be lazy, try it yourself kids.

Ive done it before. Might make it more of a regular occurrence. I usually use it for the sounds I can make, than sample the synth I made and use effects in ableton.

  On 9/28/2010 at 11:56 PM, chassis said:

  On 9/28/2010 at 3:46 AM, Blanket Fort Collapse said:

Just to be clear... REWIRING REASON THROUGH A D.A.W., CONTROLLING IT VIA MIDI, MAKING IT YOUR BITCH IS INCREDIBLY EASY AND STABLE. Don't be lazy, try it yourself kids.

 

Ive done it before. Might make it more of a regular occurrence. I usually use it for the sounds I can make, than sample the synth I made and use effects in ableton.

is that what rewire allows you to do, sample? having never used rewire i don't know how it works.

like does every channel in reason get routed to a channel in the daw your using?

Aye, I used to Rewire Ableton and Reason all the time but I've gone back to pure Reason for a while now. I feel like I have a lot more control over my music when I'm just using Reason.

By the way in response to the question about the sequencer and Kong, the sequencer is very much the same I'm afraid, if not even more frustrating (the zoom function for editing notes does my nut in a bit). I've always found Reason's sequencer easy to get along with though, more so than any other sequencer i've tried, you always know where you are with it.

Kong is pretty tasty but not quite as in-depth as Ultrabeat or NI Battery for instance...if you're willing to use your imagination though, you can get some pretty beastly sounds from it. Each pad has a gate out and a gate in so you can basically layer sound after sound to your hearts content, what with the CV merger n all that. Ooh n i love the fact with the acoustic snare you can decide where the snare is hit, nice addition!

Still though, live sampling isn't working for me!! :angry:

This is what sold it to me if I'm honest, I love putting claps, n clicks n crunches n even some vocals in my tracks. Does ANYONE pleeeeease know what's going wrong?? Cheers all...

  On 9/29/2010 at 12:54 AM, yek said:

  On 9/28/2010 at 11:56 PM, chassis said:

  On 9/28/2010 at 3:46 AM, Blanket Fort Collapse said:

Just to be clear... REWIRING REASON THROUGH A D.A.W., CONTROLLING IT VIA MIDI, MAKING IT YOUR BITCH IS INCREDIBLY EASY AND STABLE. Don't be lazy, try it yourself kids.

 

Ive done it before. Might make it more of a regular occurrence. I usually use it for the sounds I can make, than sample the synth I made and use effects in ableton.

 

is that what rewire allows you to do, sample? having never used rewire i don't know how it works.

 

like does every channel in reason get routed to a channel in the daw your using?

 

In Cubase Sx3 rewiring Reason just made a master volume track from Reason that you could automate the volume on and it would communicate sequencer commands. You can hit play in Reason or your D.A.W and completely operate sequence them separately or together at the same time. Of course you can quickly make midi channels in your DAW to control whatever you want in Reaper. Especially useful now that Reason has supposedly made their sequencer kind of lame. This gives you the ability to record guitar/hardware synths/vocals/drums/whatever audio all while your still sequencing and figuring out what you want to do in Reason rather than just thinking of them as separate entities that have to be perfected before bringing them both to the table. Of course you can apply mastering VSTs etc. automated convolution reverbs, distortion units on top of your reason stereo output.

You might have been able to do this with Cubase but right out the gate I quickly realized how to set all my Reason stuff to rewire through Reaper in separate channels. So I can apply completely separate VST chains on top of one reason instrument, put ohmnicide distortion on the drums with a subtle glitch automation VST and no fx on the my piano combinators etc. etc. etc.

You can have as much control over Reason as you want or let Reason stay a separate entity working in conjunction with whatever you decide to do before or after in your DAW running along side it in parallel or dancing into the moonlight over so closely.... hehe

I really like how Reaper is setup so much, I like navigating it so much more than Reason for sequencing, live midi selection, live sequencing, live looping etc. etc. I'm so glad with how my creative workstation has been coming along the last year and a half. But I have got so familiar with doing stuff in Reason I would never abandoned it, now its treated just the same as any other tool I run through Reaper.

Using a one greatly customized DAW to control lots of different utilities keeps familiarity in the process while spreading out to whatever tools you need. You can use Reason for certain mediums of a track and jump to using tools in Abelton at three clicks later all in conjunction with a middle ground to tie them all together keeping things efficient and comfortable.

  On 9/29/2010 at 5:09 AM, Blanket Fort Collapse said:

  On 9/29/2010 at 12:54 AM, yek said:

  On 9/28/2010 at 11:56 PM, chassis said:

  On 9/28/2010 at 3:46 AM, Blanket Fort Collapse said:

Just to be clear... REWIRING REASON THROUGH A D.A.W., CONTROLLING IT VIA MIDI, MAKING IT YOUR BITCH IS INCREDIBLY EASY AND STABLE. Don't be lazy, try it yourself kids.

 

Ive done it before. Might make it more of a regular occurrence. I usually use it for the sounds I can make, than sample the synth I made and use effects in ableton.

 

is that what rewire allows you to do, sample? having never used rewire i don't know how it works.

 

like does every channel in reason get routed to a channel in the daw your using?

 

 

In Cubase Sx3 rewiring Reason just made a master volume track from Reason that you could automate the volume on and it would communicate sequencer commands. You can hit play in Reason or your D.A.W and completely operate sequence them separately or together at the same time. Of course you can quickly make midi channels in your DAW to control whatever you want in Reaper. Especially useful now that Reason has supposedly made their sequencer kind of lame. This gives you the ability to record guitar/hardware synths/vocals/drums/whatever audio all while your still sequencing and figuring out what you want to do in Reason rather than just thinking of them as separate entities that have to be perfected before bringing them both to the table. Of course you can apply mastering VSTs etc. automated convolution reverbs, distortion units on top of your reason stereo output.

 

You might have been able to do this with Cubase but right out the gate I quickly realized how to set all my Reason stuff to rewire through Reaper in separate channels. So I can apply completely separate VST chains on top of one reason instrument, put ohmnicide distortion on the drums with a subtle glitch automation VST and no fx on the my piano combinators etc. etc. etc.

 

 

You can have as much control over Reason as you want or let Reason stay a separate entity working in conjunction with whatever you decide to do before or after in your DAW running along side it in parallel or dancing into the moonlight over so closely.... hehe

 

I really like how Reaper is setup so much, I like navigating it so much more than Reason for sequencing, live midi selection, live sequencing, live looping etc. etc. I'm so glad with how my creative workstation has been coming along the last year and a half. But I have got so familiar with doing stuff in Reason I would never abandoned it, now its treated just the same as any other tool I run through Reaper.

 

Using a one greatly customized DAW to control lots of different utilities keeps familiarity in the process while spreading out to whatever tools you need. You can use Reason for certain mediums of a track and jump to using tools in Abelton at three clicks later all in conjunction with a middle ground to tie them all together keeping things efficient and comfortable.

can you automate reason effects while recording to reaper?

absolutely, you have full access to automation and sequencing in Reason while using it rewired through a VST. You could go back in forth every bar having the DAW sequence something Reason is doing one bar and have the Reason sequence the next bar, vise versa all while doing automation's in Reason and separate ones on your DAW. You don't lose access to anything in Reason by rewiring it. It just enables you to sync it up to the mothership, lets you use vst's on separate reason instruments and lets you control it completely basically.

As I said above there is a lot of creative and productive benefits to using a DAW like Reaper to control Reason and other programs at the same time. There is absolutely no draw back in doing so as far as I can see.

Edit:I am fucking tired I miss typed a lot of things in all my posts but I don't think any of my errors make it impossible to understand, sorry, leave as is and going to gym, hope this helps and you find as much benefit in revising your software usage as I am.