"Move of ten" is out on bleep

so one needs a system to hear the invisible kicks on move of ten... meanwhile everyone else is saying how suited it is for laptop speakers and earbuds.. something is not adding up. i've mentioned specific things, why don't you check them out on your 'system' and get back to me. show me one kick that knocks your sub out

  On 6/17/2010 at 9:45 AM, Polymershapes said:

so one needs a system to hear the invisible kicks on move of ten... meanwhile everyone else is saying how suited it is for laptop speakers and earbuds.. something is not adding up. i've mentioned specific things, why don't you check them out on your 'system' and get back to me. show me one kick that knocks your sub out

lol

i think i may have met my match here guys, dude is trying to get all pretentious on my ass yo.

iris was a pupil is a very gorgeous track! ae's melodies have been kicking ass lately. i can't wait to hear how they're gonna progress from here.

  On 6/17/2010 at 9:45 AM, Polymershapes said:

so one needs a system to hear the invisible kicks on move of ten... meanwhile everyone else is saying how suited it is for laptop speakers and earbuds.. something is not adding up. i've mentioned specific things, why don't you check them out on your 'system' and get back to me. show me one kick that knocks your sub out

Well the walls of my house are trembling with fear when i play Etchogon-S very loud,my sub is blasting !

On headphones (ath a900) I do get bass as well but less that's for sure, i prefer this ep/lp on my sound system than on headphones anyway.

Cep puiqMX really grows on me, reminds me of bine (check Cep puiqMX at 0.30 and the first seconds of bine)

Iris was a pupil is a beautiful track and so is ylmo !

I reckon pce freeze 2.8i is the known(1) of this album. Both take a relatively simple, but powerful melody (in this case more of a beat) and drive it into your brain.

Most likely to get stuck in my head for sure.

  On 6/17/2010 at 3:50 AM, acroyear said:

  On 6/17/2010 at 3:43 AM, elusive4 said:

it good?

It's good to me man. Hard to think of my life without it really. Montreal is so fucking deep it's ridiculous. Turn on that track and let it do it's thing. It hypnotizes the fuck out of me. Every time.

Or Yulquen, which is like FUCKING INFINITE SPACE and could run forever as far as I'm concerned. Yes Amber is good. It's essential.

I've evolved from an instant sceptic to a Move of Ten fanatic in a short space of time. I think it was the first track that threw me during my initial listen. The first time I put it on I thought it was messy. It still sounds like they've been hitting notes at random while going up the keys. And that's probably exactly what they done. And I like it. It's still my least favourite off the EP though.

y7 is really quite ambient and like a lot of the tracks would fit into Oversteps snugly. I really like its minimal development. It has traces of Confield, but is also in a complete league of its own. Distantly, somewhere in the background, it sounds to me like water dripping inside an electronic cave.

pce freeze 2.8i very industrial, a totally unique Autechre track, also with minimal development to great effect. Sounds like it's going to break off into a drum filler at any point, but thankfully it doesn't. An unsettling wail of a synth and dark 'bass' give this track a sinister edge.

rew(1) very bouncy, probably the most accessible on the album despite never breaking off into a wild chorus or something like that.

nth_Dafusederb Quite eerie at first, suddenly drops into a great beat that reminds me of d-sho qub, and that I wouldn't be surprised if that's where it had been cannibalised from. The track emits a strange, nice sound during the last part that gives it both a sweet and sinister feel.

iris was a pupil is a great track that sounds like my favourite from Oversteps, pt2ph8, but not as good. Iris seems to be a more intense version, whereas pt2ph8 is very ambient, very dreamlike.

no border the industrial sound from pce freeze makes a resurgence here, albeit a much quieter one. A very mellow track with a nice noise in the background that I'd love to describe but really don't have the words to.

M62 starts off sounding the most normal track Autechre have ever produced, then only slightly develops into something else. Very quiet, very mellow, but quite fast-paced. The repetitive beat, what sounds like a bass drum, is the most 'normal' they have ever produced.

ylm0 another minimal percussion (you can barely hear it) ambient track that evokes nice mental images. Sounds familiar too, perhaps a product of more Oversteps-cannibalising? Not a bad thing, of course. Allusions to Oversteps make it sound like a companion piece, which is great especially considering hwo much I like Oversteps.

Cep_puiqMX almost sounds like it's going to take off a presidential song for a moment, then suddenly rips out a crazy Autechre beat that's both coherent and erratic at the same time. Strange synth blasts give the track a terrifying feel. The percussion reminds me of Lentic Catachresis from Confield, especially as it draws to a close.

Overall, a great companion piece to Oversteps, but also a stand-alone masterpiece. It hasn't quite overtaken it yet, but with how much this EP has grown on me in such a short space of time I wouldn't be surprised if it does happen. A great record, and hopefully a signification that Autechre are heading back to a more ambient sound. Roll on the next four-hour EP!

posting to emphasize the goodness of this album.

the intense beauty of nth dafuseder.b is hard to fully grasp or measure. amazing!

I still need to give this EP more of my time. Started listening last night but the phone rang and then the washing machine was going,.... ahhhh I need some peace!

ya the goddamn album is good. nth Dafuseder.b while puffing on a nice rollo is absolutely out of this world.

(hugs not drugs)

Move of Ten rankings:

1.rew(1)

2.Etchogon-S

3.pce freeze 2.8i

4.M62

5.iris was a pupil

6.no border

7.y7

8.Cep puiqMX

9.nth Dafuseder.b

10.ylm0

And that's not say that this release even has a bad track. Congratulations to Autechre for making an absolute fansttsasataststic EP!

Today, I fell in love with no border.

  On 6/17/2010 at 9:45 AM, Polymershapes said:

so one needs a system to hear the invisible kicks on move of ten... meanwhile everyone else is saying how suited it is for laptop speakers and earbuds.. something is not adding up.

if you're taking seriously anyone saying that they prefer listening to music on earbuds vs real speakers you're listening to the wrong people

  On 6/17/2010 at 8:58 AM, oscillik said:

you do realise how bass frequencies work, right? they need longer waveforms to be able to be represented properly (and that's a basic explaination, there are multiple factors that come into proper bass response).

 

try listening through some decent speakers and see what you think then

When I first listened to this, I did so through a pair of Grados, and the soundstage felt a bit oppressive. At first, I thought it might be compression, but it's not. It definitely sounds better with some air between the speakers and the listener.

This feels more like Oversteps' version of Envane than a distinct album. It's very casual. iris was a pupil sounds like a reworking of pt2ph8, and there are bits of redfall and Treale on ylm0 and no border. Cep puiqMX and Etchogon-S sound like warmer takes from Draft 7.30 (especially the middle section of Surripere).

It might be me, but I'm hearing acid all over this thing. Bits of Richie Hawtin in the melodies, and a Basic Channel ambience all around. For the most part, it's very cool, with the exception of pce freeze 28i, which sounds a bit like warmed-over Monolake. y7 feels very nostalgic for the Class of 1995, but with its own unique touches.

The bassline on rew(1) seems to have its own physical presence, which worms right up through my sinuses.

Thank God for Bleep, because if I'd ordered the vinyl from Warp, that'd be like $6000 US.

  On 6/17/2010 at 9:42 PM, LonelyMachines said:

 

When I first listened to this, I did so through a pair of Grados, and the soundstage felt a bit oppressive. At first, I thought it might be compression, but it's not. It definitely sounds better with some air between the speakers and the listener.

 

Yeah, Grados -- by design-- have a pretty narrow soundstage and a bit more treble emphasis over bass, and that doesn't work so well for Move of Ten. There's a lot going on with imaging and soundstaging in this album.

It sounds fairly wrong on my Grados, but on my Sennheisers (wider/deeper soundstage and a bit more bass weight) it sounds very immersive and lush. I think I might prefer it on my Senns to on my speakers/monitors at the moment.

  On 6/17/2010 at 8:58 AM, oscillik said:

 

you do realise how bass frequencies work, right? they need longer waveforms to be able to be represented properly (and that's a basic explaination, there are multiple factors that come into proper bass response).

 

 

this is bullshit. bass waves don't need 'space' to develop or anything of that nature

  On 6/17/2010 at 10:40 PM, elusive4 said:

  On 6/17/2010 at 8:58 AM, oscillik said:

 

you do realise how bass frequencies work, right? they need longer waveforms to be able to be represented properly (and that's a basic explaination, there are multiple factors that come into proper bass response).

 

 

 

this is bullshit. bass waves don't need 'space' to develop or anything of that nature

erm, ok

Etchogon-S is a wonderfully sloppy sci-fi beat fuck sorta like Quaristice. Quite playful and sounds great on a good set of speakers.

pce freeze 2.8i has that wonderfully terrifying string chord that just makes my skin crawl (in a good way) and the beat is pretty solid and fun. There's some tasty croaking bass to go along with it as well which is always fun.

y7 is like an auditory soda. Extremely repetitive but every moment presents something new and different. There are many nuances to this track if you care to listen that hard.

rew(1) does the same thing to me as Treale. Like hip-hop gone terribly awry, and this track definitely has the most interesting variety of synth sounds on the whole album. I'm a huge fan of the tsss tss tss hi-hat sound.

nth Dafuseder.b sounds alot like BoC as alot of people have already pointed out, but it also has that droney Autechre sound reminiscent of perlence losid 2. Quite hypnotic and steady.

iris was a pupil seems to be a reworking of pt2ph8 but honestly the melody is one of the best spacey ambient ones they have done for a few albums. The melodic bits on Oversteps were amazing, don't get me wrong, but the melodies in this track are considerably less gay/flamboyant.

no border hasn't really made any sense to me yet. I'll have to give it a few more listens although I can tell it has some serious potential. I've always been a fan of really hissy Autechre.

M62 is a 4/4 beat, yeah, but that is not a reason to diss it. It has a wonderfully random and playful melody that consistently remains in the pleasant melodic spectrum. It reminds me of some of the tracks from old Sonic games.

ylm0 is just a reworking of krYlon. krYlon is simple sounding but has an insane amount of depth. As a result I haven't been able to fully digest it yet. With that having been said I can't really figure out how I feel about ylm0 at the present time. Seems alright though, far surpassing intolerable.

Cep PuiqMX combines some classic Ae elements into a fresh sounding style. It has alot of Confield to it in terms of beat, and the synth reminds me of Vletrmx and the crackly semi-flatulent synth present in some of the more ambient Quaristice tracks like Perlence Suns and Notwo

All in all I'm overly impressed with this EP. I'm also wholeheartedly thankful that they hit us with a fresh meal so soon after Oversteps. I can only imagine that their music will continue to be amazing and wholely engaging. Thank you Autechre. You have done well.

also:

  On 6/17/2010 at 4:49 AM, Retrig said:

  On 6/17/2010 at 4:47 AM, acroyear said:

Amber still doesn't sound dated either. It's pure music. I'd like to put it in a pipe, and smoke on it until my fucking lips burn off to be quite honest.

This.

+1

  On 6/17/2010 at 11:00 PM, oscillik said:

  On 6/17/2010 at 10:40 PM, elusive4 said:

this is bullshit. bass waves don't need 'space' to develop or anything of that nature

erm, ok

Elusive is right, actually. If you have a driver (whether in a headphone or a speaker) moving back and forth 40 times a second, you'll cause pressure waves which vary 40 times a second, whether you are 2cm from the driver or 10 feet from the driver. How well the driver succeeds in shifting the air and creating waves which are loud enough to hear, depends on lots of awkward factors like the width of the driver, how much excursion it has, whether it resonates, the shape of the driver surface, etc etc. But there is no magic in the amount of empty space between you and the speaker. If you have decent speakers, play something with low notes at a comfortable volume, then go and put your ear next to a low frequency driver. I guarantee you it will be louder and not go magically quiet as you approach to headphone distance.

  On 6/17/2010 at 11:19 PM, blos said:

  On 6/17/2010 at 11:00 PM, oscillik said:

  On 6/17/2010 at 10:40 PM, elusive4 said:

this is bullshit. bass waves don't need 'space' to develop or anything of that nature

erm, ok

Elusive is right, actually. If you have a driver (whether in a headphone or a speaker) moving back and forth 40 times a second, you'll cause pressure waves which vary 40 times a second, whether you are 2cm from the driver or 10 feet from the driver. How well the driver succeeds in shifting the air and creating waves which are loud enough to hear, depends on lots of awkward factors like the width of the driver, how much excursion it has, whether it resonates, the shape of the driver surface, etc etc. But there is no magic in the amount of empty space between you and the speaker. If you have decent speakers, play something with low notes at a comfortable volume, then go and put your ear next to a low frequency driver. I guarantee you it will be louder and not go magically quiet as you approach to headphone distance.

right. i'm wrong. so is the college i did Music Tech at then, apparently. someone should tell them too.

i'm not though, i can't be arsed

oh yo osci i was mostly joking earlier. lovin the release haha

  On 6/17/2010 at 11:26 PM, oscillik said:

  On 6/17/2010 at 11:19 PM, blos said:

  On 6/17/2010 at 11:00 PM, oscillik said:

  On 6/17/2010 at 10:40 PM, elusive4 said:

this is bullshit. bass waves don't need 'space' to develop or anything of that nature

erm, ok

Elusive is right, actually. If you have a driver (whether in a headphone or a speaker) moving back and forth 40 times a second, you'll cause pressure waves which vary 40 times a second, whether you are 2cm from the driver or 10 feet from the driver. How well the driver succeeds in shifting the air and creating waves which are loud enough to hear, depends on lots of awkward factors like the width of the driver, how much excursion it has, whether it resonates, the shape of the driver surface, etc etc. But there is no magic in the amount of empty space between you and the speaker. If you have decent speakers, play something with low notes at a comfortable volume, then go and put your ear next to a low frequency driver. I guarantee you it will be louder and not go magically quiet as you approach to headphone distance.

right. i'm wrong. so is the college i did Music Tech at then, apparently. someone should tell them too.

i'm not though, i can't be arsed

someone here is mixing up a few things, and i think it's you, oscillik. maybe you mean like resonance frequencies of physical objects? i.e., if you throw a penny on the floor it won't audibly vibrate in 30Hz dubstep bass waves, you need a large object for that. Which has nothing to do with speakers/headphones innit.

  On 6/17/2010 at 11:26 PM, oscillik said:

right. i'm wrong. so is the college i did Music Tech at then, apparently. someone should tell them too.

i'm not though, i can't be arsed

Sorry, telling me you completed a college course doesn't actually refute the facts I gave you.

What you're probably confusing this with, is the idea of standing waves - i.e. room resonances and so on. Those do indeed need large dimensions because the room volume needs to encompass an entire wave or half-wave.

By the way, the wavelength of a 40Hz sound wave is 8 metres. If you needed that kind of space to hear it, most home stereo systems would be unable to go below about 100Hz. Mine goes way below that and I'm sure yours does too.

  On 6/17/2010 at 11:56 PM, blos said:

  On 6/17/2010 at 11:26 PM, oscillik said:

right. i'm wrong. so is the college i did Music Tech at then, apparently. someone should tell them too.

i'm not though, i can't be arsed

Sorry, telling me you completed a college course doesn't actually refute the facts I gave you.

What you're probably confusing this with, is the idea of standing waves - i.e. room resonances and so on. Those do indeed need large dimensions because the room volume needs to encompass an entire wave or half-wave.

By the way, the wavelength of a 40Hz sound wave is 8 metres. If you needed that kind of space to hear it, most home stereo systems would be unable to go below about 100Hz. Mine goes way below that and I'm sure yours does too.

you don't get it - i'm admitting that i am wrong. i was merely stating that what i was told in college was obviously wrong too.

you win