Boards of Canada Does Seven Forty Seven prepare us for some new direction BOC is going?

Seven Forty Seven was pretty different to the Campfire Headphase. Its very BOC but quite different to the stuff the did on the last LP. Oval Moon (IBC Mx) by Autechre was pretty different to Quaristice too but fits well to Oversteps and Move of Ten even it has been made long before. For me it was the first indication in retrospect that pointed to the new development autechre went into on the last releases. Looks as if WARP prepared the fans on whats going to happen next by using a song that has been there so people will understand the development. So Seven Forty Seven could be the same for Boards of Canada as its pretty different too. What do you think?

'Seven Forty Seven' was from way before TCH, it was featured on the Atomless site around the time of Geogaddi

dusted off and reworked for the Warp20 release

http://www.atomless.com/projects/boc/site/

  On 8/13/2010 at 11:49 AM, Zykial said:

'Seven Forty Seven' was from way before TCH, it was featured on the Atomless site around the time of Geogaddi

dusted off and reworked for the Warp20 release

 

http://www.atomless.com/projects/boc/site/

yeah I know same with the autechre song that was 10 years old. I just ask myself if they picked exactly that song because they knew there was similar stuff about to be released to help you remember that they did stuff like that long before and by this prepare you for whats next.

  On 8/13/2010 at 11:57 AM, o00o said:

  On 8/13/2010 at 11:49 AM, Zykial said:

'Seven Forty Seven' was from way before TCH, it was featured on the Atomless site around the time of Geogaddi

dusted off and reworked for the Warp20 release

 

http://www.atomless.com/projects/boc/site/

 

yeah I know same with the autechre song that was 10 years old. I just ask myself if they picked exactly that song because they knew there was similar stuff about to be released to help you remember that they did stuff like that long before and by this prepare you for whats next.

i'm hoping for Geogaddi II: The Next Day

i honestly don't think there is a meaning behind warp having those boc and ae tracks on the compilation.

but if that actually means something, it's a good sign of course.

  On 8/13/2010 at 11:57 AM, o00o said:

  On 8/13/2010 at 11:49 AM, Zykial said:

'Seven Forty Seven' was from way before TCH, it was featured on the Atomless site around the time of Geogaddi

dusted off and reworked for the Warp20 release

 

http://www.atomless.com/projects/boc/site/

 

yeah I know same with the autechre song that was 10 years old.

Oval Moon (IBC mx) was a lot older than just 10 years.

back on topic, i don't really think there's any correlation, since i don't think there was any correlation whatsoever between Oval Moon (IBC mx) and the recent autechre releases. there are so many differences, both in terms of the arrangement and timbre of the sounds used.

as for the Boards of Canada track, Seven Forty Seven, technically Boards of Canada pulled another crafty one here as that track wasn't actually unheard - it had been used on their older (and cooler) website. i don't see that track as any kind of indication of direction either.

but that's just my personal opinion

  On 8/13/2010 at 1:56 PM, oscillik said:

  On 8/13/2010 at 11:57 AM, o00o said:

  On 8/13/2010 at 11:49 AM, Zykial said:

'Seven Forty Seven' was from way before TCH, it was featured on the Atomless site around the time of Geogaddi

dusted off and reworked for the Warp20 release

 

http://www.atomless.com/projects/boc/site/

 

yeah I know same with the autechre song that was 10 years old.

Oval Moon (IBC mx) was a lot older than just 10 years.

 

back on topic, i don't really think there's any correlation, since i don't think there was any correlation whatsoever between Oval Moon (IBC mx) and the recent autechre releases. there are so many differences, both in terms of the arrangement and timbre of the sounds used.

 

as for the Boards of Canada track, Seven Forty Seven, technically Boards of Canada pulled another crafty one here as that track wasn't actually unheard - it had been used on their older (and cooler) website. i don't see that track as any kind of indication of direction either.

 

but that's just my personal opinion

yeah you are right its 20 years:

Oval moon is different in production I agree but its much closer to oversteps and move of ten as to quaristice and draft. anyway we can just guess until something new is released

I think Warp's methodology of compiling the Unheard collection was:

"Pff fuck it, lets just bung some stuff on there"

"Shall we have any consistent theme or reasoning behind which tracks we've chosen"

"Nah, can't be assed - lets go to the pub"

  On 8/13/2010 at 2:09 PM, o00o said:

Oval moon is different in production I agree but its much closer to oversteps and move of ten as to quaristice and draft. anyway we can just guess until something new is released

i personally really don't see any kind of correlation whatsoever...the arrangement and flow of Oval Moon (IBC mx) doesn't fit with anything on Oversteps, and can only very tenuously be linked to a sequence similarity with M62 from Move of Ten.

and i certainly can't really hear any FM synthesis on Oval Moon (IBC mx). the only "link" between the newer material and this track is that they use melody, and they're not so heavy on the percolating drum sound. considering that autechre have done tracks similar in the past anyways, i don't see Oval Moon (IBC mx) as a prophecy upon the Oversteps/Move of Ten era.

but what i can say is that it's always good to hear other peoples opinions on the stuff, and while i personally don't see what you see, your opinion is valid nonetheless (sentence written as non-trolling verse).

back to Boards of Canada, i know a lot of people were disappointed in Seven Forty Seven being released in this way, because we were promised "unheard" tracks on those slabs of vinyl. and with this track, we didn't get an unheard track. i think most Boards of Canada listeners would've been more interested in getting that track from the ATP gig. while not technically an unheard track since it was played out live, i know a lot of BoC listeners get a chub-on for that track.

Whether or not 747 was heard was dependent on piloting skills.

Even so a pile of disparate and incomplete elements did not equal the deliberate mix.

Just as Spiro is not the Lighthouse track, only a second long blip.

  On 8/13/2010 at 11:28 PM, all_purpose_sandpaper said:

Whether or not 747 was heard was dependent on piloting skills.

 

Even so a pile of disparate and incomplete elements did not equal the deliberate mix.

 

Just as Spiro is not the Lighthouse track, only a second long blip.

as far as i know, every other track on the unheard records was actually unheard by the respective artists' fans. Seven Forty Seven wasn't.

at least the track satisfied BoC fans' appetite for Geogaddi era material. I still don't understand the reverent love for Geogaddi. It's good but, personally, Music Has The Right To Children beats it.

  On 8/13/2010 at 11:46 PM, oscillik said:

  On 8/13/2010 at 11:28 PM, all_purpose_sandpaper said:

Whether or not 747 was heard was dependent on piloting skills.

 

Even so a pile of disparate and incomplete elements did not equal the deliberate mix.

 

Just as Spiro is not the Lighthouse track, only a second long blip.

as far as i know, every other track on the unheard records was actually unheard by the respective artists' fans. Seven Forty Seven wasn't.

 

at least the track satisfied BoC fans' appetite for Geogaddi era material. I still don't understand the reverent love for Geogaddi. It's good but, personally, Music Has The Right To Children beats it.

Preferences are here and there. With almost all clamoring for tracks they have already heard, 747 might hardly have been a surprise. I can only touch Geogaddi with a stick, and place it on the turntable with rubber gloves. Its such a damn circus to get the album playing. So I listen to Music more often, or the ruffly TCH.

Maybe I can't use a mouse or the damned interface for that thing, but I could only generate a mild burble and some wind noise from the islands website, and I kept banging into rocks, each strike seemed to produce a whishy woman-whisper. Hey, do you think any of the BOC albums were recorded and mastered without a computer and with gear from the 70's and early 80's? If one went back in time, which is impossible, and tried to make an album as creative as some of these new albums, but like in 1973, and only had to use stuff from that time, what would it sound like? Can this be a good discipline to make albums today?

I think the tracks on the recent Unheard compilation just prove that Warps cupboards are bare when it comes to old Boards Of Canada and Autechre.

  On 8/14/2010 at 6:41 PM, all_purpose_sandpaper said:

  On 8/13/2010 at 11:46 PM, oscillik said:

  On 8/13/2010 at 11:28 PM, all_purpose_sandpaper said:

Whether or not 747 was heard was dependent on piloting skills.

 

Even so a pile of disparate and incomplete elements did not equal the deliberate mix.

 

Just as Spiro is not the Lighthouse track, only a second long blip.

as far as i know, every other track on the unheard records was actually unheard by the respective artists' fans. Seven Forty Seven wasn't.

 

at least the track satisfied BoC fans' appetite for Geogaddi era material. I still don't understand the reverent love for Geogaddi. It's good but, personally, Music Has The Right To Children beats it.

 

Preferences are here and there. With almost all clamoring for tracks they have already heard, 747 might hardly have been a surprise. I can only touch Geogaddi with a stick, and place it on the turntable with rubber gloves. Its such a damn circus to get the album playing. So I listen to Music more often, or the ruffly TCH.

 

Maybe I can't use a mouse or the damned interface for that thing, but I could only generate a mild burble and some wind noise from the islands website, and I kept banging into rocks, each strike seemed to produce a whishy woman-whisper. Hey, do you think any of the BOC albums were recorded and mastered without a computer and with gear from the 70's and early 80's? If one went back in time, which is impossible, and tried to make an album as creative as some of these new albums, but like in 1973, and only had to use stuff from that time, what would it sound like? Can this be a good discipline to make albums today?

Yeah, Geogaddi has only been played on my turntable a few times. In my personal opinion, it does sound better on vinyl though.

The Website...I was able to navigate it pretty well, still can too (can't remember where but the site is linked somewhere on Fredd-E's BoC pages). You can get a very good feel for the track on the island if you navigate it well enough.

As for the approach to making the music, I don't believe that any of their stuff was made without the use of a computer, at least as a sequencer. When I had my music hardware, I decided to go "old-school" and sequence everything from my Atari Falcon030. Purely MIDI, no audio sequencing involved. I think everything up until Music Has The Right To Children would probably have been sequenced in a similar way, due to the fact that I'm sure they have an Atari ST lying around from playing computer games as kids and it's built for MIDI sequencing from the get-go...no extra cost involved in getting a sequencer. I think everything after MHTRTC would have been sequenced more prominently with computers. I am fairly certain I can hear handclaps from the Elektron Machinedrum on Peacock Tail from The Campfire Headphase too.

of course all of that is just my opinion, and could very well be (and most likely is) wrong. But at least I can say I've actually had experience with sequencing using the older stuff, which is more than can be said for some people that frequent these kind of places. (comment not aimed at you)

  On 8/15/2010 at 1:13 PM, Mugsey said:

I think the tracks on the recent Unheard compilation just prove that Warps cupboards are bare when it comes to old Boards Of Canada and Autechre.

that's correct, considering that Warp had to ask the respective artists for the material. i know for a fact that autechre have a LOT of stuff hidden away. i wouldn't know too much about Boards of Canada though, since my sources aren't close to BoC, they're close to autechre. and i like autechre a lot more anyway.

  On 8/15/2010 at 3:55 PM, oscillik said:

  On 8/15/2010 at 1:13 PM, Mugsey said:

I think the tracks on the recent Unheard compilation just prove that Warps cupboards are bare when it comes to old Boards Of Canada and Autechre.

that's correct, considering that Warp had to ask the respective artists for the material. i know for a fact that autechre have a LOT of stuff hidden away. i wouldn't know too much about Boards of Canada though, since my sources aren't close to BoC, they're close to autechre. and i like autechre a lot more anyway.

oh well.. at least we had 2 brand stonking new PLAID tracks on there! (written and produced by Plaid. Handley/Turner. 2009)

so, who cares! lol. BoC aren't all that good anyway! and Plaid are far better than Autechre, so.... *big smiles* :D

  On 8/15/2010 at 6:53 PM, sirch said:

  On 8/15/2010 at 3:55 PM, oscillik said:

  On 8/15/2010 at 1:13 PM, Mugsey said:

I think the tracks on the recent Unheard compilation just prove that Warps cupboards are bare when it comes to old Boards Of Canada and Autechre.

that's correct, considering that Warp had to ask the respective artists for the material. i know for a fact that autechre have a LOT of stuff hidden away. i wouldn't know too much about Boards of Canada though, since my sources aren't close to BoC, they're close to autechre. and i like autechre a lot more anyway.

 

oh well.. at least we had 2 brand stonking new PLAID tracks on there! (written and produced by Plaid. Handley/Turner. 2009)

so, who cares! lol. BoC aren't all that good anyway! and Plaid are far better than Autechre, so.... *big smiles* :D

and The Black Dog (Ken Downie, and Dust Brothers) is better than Plaid

  On 8/13/2010 at 11:46 PM, oscillik said:

I still don't understand the reverent love for Geogaddi. It's good but, personally, Music Has The Right To Children beats it.

it's because of all the supposed secret stuff, hidden stuff, reversed stuff. the mystery, the 'what does it all mean' elements. etc. etc.

MHTRTC is far better, imo, too. they haven't bettered that album yet, it's their best stuff, imo. i hope they can and will, soon. but i have my doubts. they need to do it soon, though.

maybe the IDM wheel will turn again soon and it'll all come back around again for 2011/2012.

  On 8/15/2010 at 7:04 PM, sirch said:

  On 8/13/2010 at 11:46 PM, oscillik said:

I still don't understand the reverent love for Geogaddi. It's good but, personally, Music Has The Right To Children beats it.

 

it's because of all the supposed secret stuff, hidden stuff, reversed stuff. the mystery, the 'what does it all mean' elements. etc. etc.

 

MHTRTC is far better, imo, too. they haven't bettered that album yet, it's their best stuff, imo. i hope they can and will, soon. but i have my doubts. they need to do it soon, though.

maybe the IDM wheel will turn again soon and it'll all come back around again for 2011/2012.

see, at first the secret stuff was kinda ok. but when you realise that there are some people that take it all just a bit too far, it's like...you know those people who are just a bit too much into Star Wars? or Star Trek? or Plaid?

  On 8/15/2010 at 6:57 PM, oscillik said:

  On 8/15/2010 at 6:53 PM, sirch said:

  On 8/15/2010 at 3:55 PM, oscillik said:

  On 8/15/2010 at 1:13 PM, Mugsey said:

I think the tracks on the recent Unheard compilation just prove that Warps cupboards are bare when it comes to old Boards Of Canada and Autechre.

that's correct, considering that Warp had to ask the respective artists for the material. i know for a fact that autechre have a LOT of stuff hidden away. i wouldn't know too much about Boards of Canada though, since my sources aren't close to BoC, they're close to autechre. and i like autechre a lot more anyway.

 

oh well.. at least we had 2 brand stonking new PLAID tracks on there! (written and produced by Plaid. Handley/Turner. 2009)

so, who cares! lol. BoC aren't all that good anyway! and Plaid are far better than Autechre, so.... *big smiles* :D

and The Black Dog (Ken Downie, and Dust Brothers) is better than Plaid

LOL

well, Downie is very very good, i'll give you that. :)

but better than Plaid? c'mon now oscillik son. lol ;)

  On 8/15/2010 at 7:06 PM, oscillik said:

  On 8/15/2010 at 7:04 PM, sirch said:

  On 8/13/2010 at 11:46 PM, oscillik said:

I still don't understand the reverent love for Geogaddi. It's good but, personally, Music Has The Right To Children beats it.

 

it's because of all the supposed secret stuff, hidden stuff, reversed stuff. the mystery, the 'what does it all mean' elements. etc. etc.

 

MHTRTC is far better, imo, too. they haven't bettered that album yet, it's their best stuff, imo. i hope they can and will, soon. but i have my doubts. they need to do it soon, though.

maybe the IDM wheel will turn again soon and it'll all come back around again for 2011/2012.

see, at first the secret stuff was kinda ok. but when you realise that there are some people that take it all just a bit too far, it's like...you know those people who are just a bit too much into Star Wars? or Star Trek? or Plaid?

yeah i know exactly what you mean, oscillik. they're a bit like those people who're a bit too much into Autechre, and Bladerunner, and tBd, for their own good. :)

  On 8/15/2010 at 7:09 PM, sirch said:

  On 8/15/2010 at 7:06 PM, oscillik said:

  On 8/15/2010 at 7:04 PM, sirch said:

  On 8/13/2010 at 11:46 PM, oscillik said:

I still don't understand the reverent love for Geogaddi. It's good but, personally, Music Has The Right To Children beats it.

 

it's because of all the supposed secret stuff, hidden stuff, reversed stuff. the mystery, the 'what does it all mean' elements. etc. etc.

 

MHTRTC is far better, imo, too. they haven't bettered that album yet, it's their best stuff, imo. i hope they can and will, soon. but i have my doubts. they need to do it soon, though.

maybe the IDM wheel will turn again soon and it'll all come back around again for 2011/2012.

see, at first the secret stuff was kinda ok. but when you realise that there are some people that take it all just a bit too far, it's like...you know those people who are just a bit too much into Star Wars? or Star Trek? or Plaid?

 

yeah i know exactly what you mean, oscillik. they're a bit like those people who're a bit too much into Autechre, and Bladerunner, and tBd, for their own good. :)

fuck you very much too

  On 8/15/2010 at 7:11 PM, oscillik said:

fuck you very much too

lol. Cheers, Big Ears!

anyway, i don't think 747 is preparing us for a new BoC direction. i think they'll come out with something really different to their previous stuff.

i remember reading an interview they did back in 2002 i think it was where they said they were wanting to cement their sound first, then they might experiment.. ?

MHTRTC/Geogaddi/tCH + the stuff they did for Skam, etc. has certainly cemented their sound, so i think they'll come out with something completely different for their next album. nothing like 747. at least i hope not.

  On 8/15/2010 at 7:21 PM, sirch said:

i remember reading an interview they did back in 2002 i think it was where they said they were wanting to cement their sound first, then they might experiment.. ?

MHTRTC/Geogaddi/tCH + the stuff they did for Skam, etc. has certainly cemented their sound,

good point, i was gonna start a thread along the lines of discussion regarding the difference in sound between BoC during the Skam era and BoC after it. there's a very definite change.

..and i think 747 got put out because, like somebody said before, Warp didn't have much anything else to put out! (basically)

no new tracks. probably next to no old stuff, either.

i think the case was slightly different with Ae, in that Ae i'm sure have tonnes of stuff, old and new. but i think maybe they wanted to put out Oval Moon.

whereas with 747 it wasn't so much a want than it was a neccessity!

with Plaid, i think, same as it was with Ae. they have loads of old and new stuff but they wanted to put out 2 new ones because of the such big want for 'Scintilli' the last few years.

that's my 5 pence. :)