Justin Bieber 800% Slower

and as slow as possible is even older

lol --I downloaded this program in 2006 thinking I might one day find a use for it, and still haven't opened it. Thanks for the reminder! Now that I've actually heard what it can do, I may have a use for it after all.

  On 8/19/2010 at 12:05 AM, mcbpete said:

  On 8/19/2010 at 12:00 AM, Awepittance said:

  On 8/18/2010 at 8:06 PM, joyeboy said:

goddammit paulstretch has gone mainstream

24 hours of Beethoven is about 4 years old now isn't it?

It's a few years older than that I think, IIRC it was pre-paulstretch and they created their own time stretching algorithm (PaulStretch has a really distinctive sound with its granular manipulation but 24 hours of Beethoven had sections where the next granule of sound suddly jumped in making the thing a whole lot more jarring than I guess they intended).

 

But yeah, it's weird that something I've been frequently using for about 4 years (almost to the day according to Windows Explorer) has only just suddenly hit the media/mainstream.

also kyma's time stretch function which has been around since the mid 90's sounds pretty much identical to paulstretch. the only difference is you gave to spectrally analyze the sound first before you pull it apart.

when i first heard the 24 hours of Beethoven i assumed it was made on kyma, and was surprised it was done with a custom algorithm.

it's definitely the next easiest way to make instant ambient besides soaking something in reverb and delay

Wow, this is actually some damn good ambient... I feel wierd saying that about anything Bieber related.

ticket to ride (very slowly)

http://soundcloud.com/nosuchagency/ticket-to-ride-very-slowly

  On 8/18/2010 at 5:52 PM, Jonas said:

shame it took the bieber fad to make this great tool noticed amongst n00bs.

yeah

cmon guise i did this yeeeaaaars ago (and got recognition from peter gabriel himself as a result):

Rooftop Access - The Trees (Shock The Monkey remix)

i think what this illustrates is the eventual cannibalization of all creative new ideas by the means of software that does it automatically for you /life

  On 8/19/2010 at 12:49 AM, Awepittance said:

i think what this illustrates is the eventual cannibalization of all creative new ideas by the means of software that does it automatically for you /life

this is so depressing but true.

what does crazy fast snare rush drums sound like at 800%?

also the multiplatforum Wave editing program Spear can do time stretching exactly like this. The nice thing about spear compared to paul stretch is you can do a hell of a lot more things in it.

re: blanket fort collapse: i think the reason this flavor of time stretching sounds so different from cubase is it's somehow manipulating it at the spectral level and not just granulizing it like typical algorithms

well i dunno, it raises interesting questions; autechre use all sorts of crazy stuff, a reversed washing machine sample at 200% as a snare, an aerosol can with all the transients removed as a hat, who the fuck knows what. this is just further processing of sound, although taking it to an extreme, and relying on the characteristic sonic qualities of a particular piece of software (although it could be argued that a lot of musicians do that, as well ) - where do you draw the line? is it because it's 'raw' and not intricately layered, like autechre is?

i don't mean to play devil's advocate, i'm just sort of thinking out loud here

i have a hard time understanding any objections to the "mainstreaming" of tools for audio manipulation

  On 8/19/2010 at 1:01 AM, Awepittance said:

also the multiplatforum Wave editing program Spear can do time stretching exactly like this. The nice thing about spear compared to paul stretch is you can do a hell of a lot more things in it.

I've never quite figured out how to properly use spear, everything I do with it quickly ends in spectral mush (or crashes horribly !)

  On 8/19/2010 at 1:04 AM, kaini said:

well i dunno, it raises interesting questions; autechre use all sorts of crazy stuff, a reversed washing machine sample at 200% as a snare, an aerosol can with all the transients removed as a hat, who the fuck knows what. this is just further processing of sound, although taking it to an extreme, and relying on the characteristic sonic qualities of a particular piece of software (although it could be argued that a lot of musicians do that, as well ) - where do you draw the line? is it because it's 'raw' and not intricately layered, like autechre is?

 

i don't mean to play devil's advocate, i'm just sort of thinking out loud here

these are all great points but just to play devils advocate again, i could take 8 well known tracks and do this and have a killer ambient album and no one would know its all some one elses's music i ran through a cpu for 5 minutes.

  On 8/19/2010 at 1:44 AM, jules said:

  On 8/19/2010 at 1:04 AM, kaini said:

well i dunno, it raises interesting questions; autechre use all sorts of crazy stuff, a reversed washing machine sample at 200% as a snare, an aerosol can with all the transients removed as a hat, who the fuck knows what. this is just further processing of sound, although taking it to an extreme, and relying on the characteristic sonic qualities of a particular piece of software (although it could be argued that a lot of musicians do that, as well ) - where do you draw the line? is it because it's 'raw' and not intricately layered, like autechre is?

 

i don't mean to play devil's advocate, i'm just sort of thinking out loud here

 

 

these are all great points but just to play devils advocate again, i could take 8 well known tracks and do this and have a killer ambient album and no one would know its all some one elses's music i ran through a cpu for 5 minutes.

- and i have the cover for it.

  On 8/19/2010 at 1:08 AM, mcbpete said:

  On 8/19/2010 at 1:01 AM, Awepittance said:

also the multiplatforum Wave editing program Spear can do time stretching exactly like this. The nice thing about spear compared to paul stretch is you can do a hell of a lot more things in it.

I've never quite figured out how to properly use spear, everything I do with it quickly ends in spectral mush (or crashes horribly !)

just spend a little time with it. it can look daunting, especially if you are using long wavs, but it the learning curve isn't too steep.

it just fucks with the more or less universal definition of music..the intentionality.. it's hard to enjoy something that "illegitimate"

it's just scary to think that randomly generated or at least unintentional "music" can be so enjoyable and rival genuine creativity. this whole thing sparks some very philosophical questions indeed.

  On 8/19/2010 at 1:01 AM, Awepittance said:

also the multiplatforum Wave editing program Spear can do time stretching exactly like this. The nice thing about spear compared to paul stretch is you can do a hell of a lot more things in it.

photosounder is good too.. a bit slow on my pc though, but being able to take a spectrum into photoshop and apply image effects/stretch it/etc before importing it back using the original file as a reference is pretty amazing.

Tim Hecker's "My Love Is Rotten To The Core" EP is all slowed/reverbed/chopped samples and edits from Van Halen song and interviews, it's pretty damn awesome too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm88G0P6Qs0

  On 8/19/2010 at 3:53 AM, ghOsty said:

Tim Hecker's "My Love Is Rotten To The Core" EP is all slowed/reverbed/chopped samples and edits from Van Halen song and interviews, it's pretty damn awesome too.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm88G0P6Qs0

wow, i'll have to check that out!

i was about to say; tim hecker has been integrating sampled pop songs into his music for a long time. arctic lover's rock pt 2 on haunt me has this beautiful little rising sample of a woman singing, and he makes it sound almost like wind. and then musicians have been reconstructing pop songs for a long, long time.

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck

A buddy of mine used Paulstretch to remix this really annoying pop-dubstep song:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZkzcm7ubQg

And turned it into this ambient gem:

http://soundcloud.com/drj/doctor-p-sweet-shop-doctor-js-ambient-dubstep-rmx

  On 8/19/2010 at 2:49 AM, eugene said:

it just fucks with the more or less universal definition of music..the intentionality.. it's hard to enjoy something that "illegitimate"

it's just scary to think that randomly generated or at least unintentional "music" can be so enjoyable and rival genuine creativity. this whole thing sparks some very philosophical questions indeed.

There's a whole Autechre subforum full of fanboys here ready to tout the merits of such music.

Just had a thought though, was there not intentionality gone into the original Justin Bieber track? Even if you think he's shit (I do), someone still thought up those melodies and harmonies and timing, all of which is the reason the super stretched ambient version sounds so good.

REAL generative music, built entirely from scratch with algorithms, sounds horribly soulless.

any of rdj's good ambient tracks are really incredible