Justin Bieber 800% Slower

I just want to contribute this to the discussion:

Once I walked by a washing-machine that sounded truly beautiful. And I enjoyed the way it sounded.

Circa Survive sounds pretty damn good stretched too, the high vocals work well and they're very melodic

  On 8/19/2010 at 4:43 AM, autopilot said:

Just had a thought though, was there not intentionality gone into the original Justin Bieber track? Even if you think he's shit (I do), someone still thought up those melodies and harmonies and timing, all of which is the reason the super stretched ambient version sounds so good.

 

REAL generative music, built entirely from scratch with algorithms, sounds horribly soulless.

yeah but i doubt the result, the time stretched track, was predicted or intended . someone was just fucking with the program and came up with this.

  On 8/19/2010 at 1:39 PM, Mesh Gear Fox said:

circa survive shit me off to no end.

 

also it's sort of sad that now people will view ambient music as really simple in concept. "oh, isn't that the music that you just slow down?"

but what if stretching stuff produces the best results ?

this might make it less important, but ideally listeners should listen to the sound without the context and without considering the forces that made the music be..i think

People have been using this program for years to stretch shit, it's not a new thing, just new to a lot of people.

As someone said above, if the original track is melodically fucked, then the end results won't sound too great. The only sure outcome from this is that there will be a ton more people using Paulstretch now to make ambient stuff.

Wow. this thing really spread.

Heard dude talking about it last night behind me at momofuku.

Then had a friend e-mail it to me.

  On 8/19/2010 at 1:49 PM, eugene said:

but what if stretching stuff produces the best results ?

this might make it less important, but ideally listeners should listen to the sound without the context and without considering the forces that made the music be..i think

That's how it's always been for a lot of electronic music listeners..you no longer hear some bleeps and bloops and clicks, you know it's a pitch-shifted door slam over a 303 that's having the cut & resonance knobs twiddled like mad. In many ways, that's the appeal of a lot of the "IDM" stuff and the deeper electronic music, having a basic knowledge of it makes the real creative stuff that much more impressive. I would say it's the same if you're a guy who works on movies and can't help but notice boom mic shadows and things like that.

For me, the best ambient music has always been stuff like Eluvium, that contains obviously electronically-altered sound, coupled with real, recognizable instruments. If this Paulstretch genre explodes now (which I'll laugh at because, not 3 months ago we put out an EP of stuff made largely using Paulstretch and sub-bass and called it "ambient dubstep" as a joke), it'll be like every other tool, where the discerning listener can spot it from a mile away and seeks out something a bit more creative while everyone else won't give a shit how the thing they're listening to was created.

The exact same discussion arose when 303-emulating VSTs and plugins that scramble & chop up breakbeats for you arose.

Is this only slowed down? no other mixing?

Shit sound really good! reminds me of Riceboy sleeps album by jonsi and alex

whoah

don't mean to be a dick but there is no pitch shifting going on with paul stretch, its called time stretching leaving the pitch unaltered

it's not mine

I recorded slowed down Ave Satani by Jerry Goldsmith and it sounds cool, but soundcloud sucks balls and freezes my uploads all the time, SHIT FUCK BITCH BIIIIITCH!! fuck

All Paulstretched songs sound pretty much the same to me, so I doubt it would ever be able to replace the entire ambient genre.

Bob Marley - Jamming

and some Scatman John tracks paulstretch pretty well too especially 'Scatman (Ski-Ba-Bop-Ba-Dop-Bop)'

Slowed down science fiction classics by charliejane2

This has already grown old.

oh what the hell, here is my contribution to the bieber stretch genre

http://soundcloud.com/fluorescentgrey/howard-shore-spaghettification-spectral-time-stretching-experiment-2006

not using paulstretch, instead i converted the source files into spectral files and stretched in kyma X.

here is the most recognizable source i use in the song (scroll to about 1 minute in), in my stretched version this parts come in at about 13 minutes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBIXENH-70I

Someone should try to speed up Eno's 'Music for Airports'. I'm curious as hell.

someone should slow down Gantz Graf

i just stretched some steve reich and bolt thrower stuff. funny tool

  On 8/19/2010 at 3:53 AM, ghOsty said:

Tim Hecker's "My Love Is Rotten To The Core" EP is all slowed/reverbed/chopped samples and edits from Van Halen song and interviews, it's pretty damn awesome too. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vm88G0P6Qs0

Listened to that not too long ago, great stuff. Hilarious at moments but otherwise fittingly epic.

  On 8/19/2010 at 8:19 PM, Awepittance said:

don't mean to be a dick but there is no pitch shifting going on with paul stretch, its called time stretching leaving the pitch unaltered

I'm surprised too, I expected better WATMM, it's not that difficult! The Audacity effects menu breaks it down simply: pitch (pitch shift), tempo (time stretch), and speed (both tempo and pitch change, i.e. like playing a 45' on 33rpm)

Now my question is this: will any mid-90s D'n'B classics now be re-record with paulstretch and lossless break samples? I can imagine all those gritty Metalheadz releases would sound a lot different.

  On 8/20/2010 at 1:56 AM, Awepittance said:

oh what the hell, here is my contribution to the bieber stretch genre

 

http://soundcloud.com/fluorescentgrey/howard-shore-spaghettification-spectral-time-stretching-experiment-2006

 

not using paulstretch, instead i converted the source files into spectral files and stretched in kyma X.

 

here is the most recognizable source i use in the song (scroll to about 1 minute in), in my stretched version this parts come in at about 13 minutes

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CBIXENH-70I

the whole bieber stretched thing is funny for me as i'd been listening to Beethoven 9 stretched by Leif Inge for years (played on an Ae radio show) & since that id been playing (a bit) with paul stretched too. i liked the h.shore strentching but from what i've heard, so far, Leif inge is doing the best "stretching" & he's not calling it "time stretching" but "granulation" (?), honestly the 9BS recordings are way better than the paul stretch things, less metalic, more faithful to the original sounds.

most time stretching algorithms are a form of granulation or granular synthesis, to me his algorithm actually sounds like a very complex form of FFT spectral phase vocoding (kind of how the kyma works and how i believe paulstretch works too). Leif's other stuff is good but his Beethoven things must have been made with magic, i haven't heard anything with that little artifacts since. making your own software clearly takes the *cake

"I'm all over the internet and getting all sorts of amazing music opportunities! This is a dream come true... thank you all SO MUCH!!!"

"massive shout out to Justin himself who tweeted about it! You are the best, dude!!"

who says you can't make it as an ambient musician

So did some guy called Paul just invent this programme one day and just called it Paulstretch? If so that's lol.