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it's me photoshopped with a few beers into Nothing Studios, trent reznor's old digs in new orleans. i used to have a gear list but the site is down

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if this isn't a perfect example of "it's not what you have it's what you do with it" i don't know what is. motherfucker has more of the sought after all time uber-gear than god, yet churns out stinking piles of shit like his last couple albums, while motherfuckers out there with free software make good tunes (example: devnull).

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Guest HalfStep
  aeser said:
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"it's not what you have it's what you do with it"

 

I do agree, but I also understand people who build their sound buying instruments. (which is what I do actually)

 

It means much more fun and much more work to have to understand how a machine works and then create your music with it than just turn on your computer and play music as easily as you would play minesweeper or freecell...

 

I'm dead against the fact that everyone is using the same sounds and I think that softwares have now that tendency to "format" the sounds people use. In that respect, each person buying a hardware instrument tries to escape that sound formatting and should be respected for it.

 

My hardware: R5, TR626, GP8, E6400Ultra, WavestationEX, Korg707, DRV3000, ControlFreakSE, CS15, Alto L16, software sequencers, ISIS Soundcard

Guest blicero
  HalfStep said:
  aeser said:

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"it's not what you have it's what you do with it"

 

I do agree, but I also understand people who build their sound buying instruments. (which is what I do actually)

 

It means much more fun and much more work to have to understand how a machine works and then create your music with it than just turn on your computer and play music as easily as you would play minesweeper or freecell...

 

I'm dead against the fact that everyone is using the same sounds and I think that softwares have now that tendency to "format" the sounds people use. In that respect, each person buying a hardware instrument tries to escape that sound formatting and should be respected for it.

 

My hardware: R5, TR626, GP8, E6400Ultra, WavestationEX, Korg707, DRV3000, ControlFreakSE, CS15, Alto L16, software sequencers, ISIS Soundcard

 

 

all you've demonstrated here is that you are ignorant when it comes to making electronic music on a computer using software.

 

buying hardware doesn't make you special, just rich.

That gear would be awesome to have. If I had the money I might invest in a studio like that. Even if you made crappy music it would still be an inspirational playground and I dont know. I like what NIN has done, i just think he has the wrong idea about some things and doesn't realize his potential.

Guest HalfStep

all you've demonstrated here is that you are ignorant when it comes to making electronic music on a computer using software.
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False... you don't know me and you sound quite arrogant...

 

I was talking about sounds and I definitely know that you can achieve great things with softwares. But when you have instruments under your hands and not just under the click of a mouse it's a different feeling.

 

As a matter of fact, which soft and hardware you are buying defines your sound, and with today's' spread of softwares, I just prefer buying real machines, it's a question of taste...

 

Furthermore, buying softwares is also expensive as hell!

  HalfStep said:
all you've demonstrated here is that you are ignorant when it comes to making electronic music on a computer using software.
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False... you don't know me and you sound quite arrogant...

 

I was talking about sounds and I definitely know that you can achieve great things with softwares. But when you have instruments under your hands and not just under the click of a mouse it's a different feeling.

 

As a matter of fact, which soft and hardware you are buying defines your sound, and with today's' spread of softwares, I just prefer buying real machines, it's a question of taste...

 

Furthermore, buying softwares is also expensive as hell!

 

Ok, but to be fair you did say that you were dead against the fact that everyone who buys software ends up with the same sounds, which is really just not true. In fact, often the software is alot more flexible than its hardware counterpart.

Software isn't that expensive. Ive spent much more on hardware than software and all I have is a midi keyboard, a soundcard, mixer, little groovebox, headphones, etc. Iv'e spent less than $100 on software, no warez, and Im very content with my setup.

  Bubba69 said:
Software isn't that expensive. Ive spent much more on hardware than software and all I have is a midi keyboard, a soundcard, mixer, little groovebox, headphones, etc. Iv'e spent less than $100 on software, no warez, and Im very content with my setup.

 

True, but go price out something like Waves, or Pro Tools. It can get really goddamn expensive. Even stuff like Reaktor, at retail prices you can get quite alot of hardware for the same cash.....

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Ok, but to be fair you did say that you were dead against the fact that everyone who buys software ends up with the same sounds, which is really just not true

 

Of course, that's right, it all depends on how the software's used! Naturally, not everyone ends up with the same sounds.

 

I wasn't blaming every soft user, never could... sorry if that was understood that way!

 

I just think that some softwares are so widespread that they may in a way "format" the sounds used in musical creation.

 

But maybe I'm mistaking...

  HalfStep said:
I just think that some softwares are so widespread that they may in a way "format" the sounds used in musical creation.

 

But maybe I'm mistaking...

 

I think so....

 

Alot of people like to dismiss more easily available software as inferior and incapable of producing good quality music for one of two reasons. Either a) they don't feel that they are able to produce good music, and this is a convenient excuse, or B) they like to feel better about the "superior" choices they have made.

 

It's still entirely possible to produce a wonderfull album on nothing more than a Pentium 100 running Scream Tracker, let alone something well advanced like Reason or Fruity Loops. The simple fact is, we can't all be great musicians!

Guest Ant Acid

101

202

303 (got a replacement!)

808

909

Ms-20 x 2

Yamaha Tx-81 z

Akai S-2000 x 2

Airbase 99

Oberheim Matrix 1000

Access matrix-controller

electribes: er1 and es1

 

Behringer 32 channel mixer

Alesis Midiverb II

Alesis Microverb III

Alesis Compressor

Behringer Ultrafex

Boss DE-200

 

Dali 202

JBL 4410

NAD ??(painted blue, can't remember model no)

Denon DAT DTR-2000

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Guest Promo
  Ant Acid said:
101

202

303 (got a replacement!)

808

909

Ms-20 x 2

Yamaha Tx-81 z

Akai S-2000 x 2

Airbase 99

Oberheim Matrix 1000

Access matrix-controller

electribes: er1 and es1

 

Behringer 32 channel mixer

Alesis Midiverb II

Alesis Microverb III

Alesis Compressor

Behringer Ultrafex

Boss DE-200

 

Dali 202

JBL 4410

NAD ??(painted blue, can't remember model no)

Denon DAT DTR-2000

Pics please.

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