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Ceephax & Squarepusher: Exploring the Jenkinsons


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squarepusher may have travelled into strange territory with the last few albums. still i disagree that he's dropped off.

 

when you record something like Go Plastic or Ultravisitor everything else is going to sound a little bit less. in my opinion at least

 

anyhow, the newer albums are growing on me. i'm starting to love JAS and Everything, numbers lucent. Solo Bass 1 was good as well, and the new album while initially sounding a bit strange and obviously kind of a guilty pleasure - is perfectly fine.

 

i think over time these more "prog jazz fusion" sounding albums will grow. i certainly don't know anything else like them.

 

sometimes they reach true brilliance, you just have to get your head in it.

The trouble for me is that there were jazz fusion elements in his earlier albums - but executed with much more prowess. 'Hard Normal Daddy' is hardly a dark album, for example, but it's the kind if zany fun I can get into (and that has nothing to do with the d'n'b elements, as I've never really even enjoyed that genre.) Plenty of bits of Hard Normal Daddy are actually pretty cheesy and unashamedly proggy/jazzy, but it's sooo good.

 

The cuteness and irreverence of the new stuff isn't fun to my ears. It's kitschy to the point that it just makes you go, 'Er, ok.' And I ask again: what's happened to his sound? Maybe that's all it is that is preventing certain people from getting into the new stuff. Why do releases from 1997/1998 sound better than those from 2004 onwards? d'Demonstrator is a little better and step back to a punchier sound, but really - that drop, regardless of anyone's taste, is quite obvious to me. The sounds, mixing and mastering is all over the shop in the last few.

  On 11/30/2010 at 2:58 PM, Pennywise said:

squarepusher is good, dont be a douchebag. Douchebag.

 

I like how responses to criticism on WATMM usually amount to something like this, whereas those making observations in the first place (to generate a discussion that'll hopefully amount to more than what is produced by a bunch of drunks in a pub) usually avoid insults.

 

It's like how Jean Michel Jarre fans behave when confronted with the idea that he's mimed (badly) at all his big concerts. If there's no merit to the original assertions, there's no need for insults - responding logically will do the job.

Guest hahathhat

d'demonstrator failed to move me emotionally. that's the most essential point.

 

i don't care what SP does so long as it sucks me in. with d'demonstrator i'm bored halfway through every track -- even the "good" ones, like laser rock. i keep waiting for it to kick up and get more intense, shift into a parallel universe, like JAS would. but it never does. it's like they just kind of fap around in the opening 30 seconds of the track for six minutes...

 

meanwhile: time tunnel, ceephax. the expression on my face, the first time i played it, was similar to that of a young child viewing a monster truck event.

 

edit: that usage of bold haunted me in my sleep. i had to put it out of its misery

Edited by hahathhat
Guest Pennywise
  On 11/30/2010 at 4:24 PM, Lianne said:
  On 11/30/2010 at 2:58 PM, Pennywise said:

squarepusher is good, dont be a douchebag. Douchebag.

 

I like how responses to criticism on WATMM usually amount to something like this, whereas those making observations in the first place (to generate a discussion that'll hopefully amount to more than what is produced by a bunch of drunks in a pub) usually avoid insults.

 

It's like how Jean Michel Jarre fans behave when confronted with the idea that he's mimed (badly) at all his big concerts. If there's no merit to the original assertions, there's no need for insults - responding logically will do the job.

so I'm the douchebag. thats great thanks Lianne.

  On 12/1/2010 at 4:03 PM, Pennywise said:
  On 11/30/2010 at 4:24 PM, Lianne said:
  On 11/30/2010 at 2:58 PM, Pennywise said:

squarepusher is good, dont be a douchebag. Douchebag.

 

I like how responses to criticism on WATMM usually amount to something like this, whereas those making observations in the first place (to generate a discussion that'll hopefully amount to more than what is produced by a bunch of drunks in a pub) usually avoid insults.

 

It's like how Jean Michel Jarre fans behave when confronted with the idea that he's mimed (badly) at all his big concerts. If there's no merit to the original assertions, there's no need for insults - responding logically will do the job.

so I'm the douchebag. thats great thanks Lianne.

 

You're lovely really. :-)

Its got to be just a tad frustrating to produce a couple of the finest albums of all time yet still be less popular in your own country than girls aloud. Let him do what he wants. Hes earned it. I would have retired after ultravisitor personally.

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