Anonymous and others start leaking

yeah, I never got that deep into philosophy (though I can probably bullshit and sound like I know what I'm talking about), but my first reaction was that I knew guys in freshman year who could run circles around Mr. Assange. I don't like to call people naive (what do I know) but he's certainly romantic and idealistic.

My 2 big take-aways were: 1) this is a really good argument for why so-called brilliant people shouldn't run the world and 2) I wonder if everyone should be suspicious of the wisdom and psychological stability of any unmarried male over the age of 35 (this includes me btw lol)

not that painful really, once you get beyond the first post, he's not writing these updates with an whole lot of editing methinks, it's more a livejournal style blog of whatever was on his mind.

  On 12/3/2010 at 5:33 AM, lumpenprol said:

yeah, I never got that deep into philosophy (though I can probably bullshit and sound like I know what I'm talking about), but my first reaction was that I knew guys in freshman year who could run circles around Mr. Assange. I don't like to call people naive (what do I know) but he's certainly romantic and idealistic.

 

My 2 big take-aways were: 1) this is a really good argument for why so-called brilliant people shouldn't run the world and 2) I wonder if everyone should be suspicious of the wisdom and psychological stability of any unmarried male over the age of 35 (this includes me btw lol)

i agree that he's not supermind, but i don't look to him for guidance in social or philosophical matters, so it's all good.

as for over 35's, come on man. Don't sell out to the propagandist mindset of marriage mafia.

i liked this - total emo, but captures the essence of late-night airports very nicely.

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I sat, once more in the late hours of darkness, in the

airport of a foreign city. I was tired as only both

the sufferer from insomnia and the traveler can be

tired. I had missed a plane and had almost a whole

night's wait before me. I could not sleep. The long

corridor was deserted. Even the cleaning women had

passed by.

 

In that white efficient glare I grew ever more

depressed and weary. I was tired of the endless

comings and goings of my profession; I was tired of

customs officers and police. I was lonely for home. My

eyes hurt. I was, unconsciously perhaps, looking for

that warm stone, that hawthorn leaf, where, in the

words of the poet, man trades in at last his wife and

friend. I had an ocean to cross; the effort seemed

unbearable. I rested my aching head upon my hand.

 

Later, beginning at the far end of that desolate

corridor, I saw a man moving slowly toward me. In a

small corner of my eye I merely noted him. He limped,

painfully and grotesquely, upon a heavy cane. He was

far away, and it was no matter to me. I shifted the

unpleasant mote out of my eye.

 

But, after a time, I could still feel him approaching,

and in one of those white moments of penetration which

are so dreadful, my eyes were drawn back to him as he

came on. With an anatomist's eye I saw this amazing

conglomeration of sticks and broken, misshapen pulleys

which make up the body of man. Here was an apt

subject, and I flew to a raging mental dissection.

How could anyone, I contended, trapped in this

mechanical thing of joints and sliding wires expect

the acts it performed to go other than awry?

 

The man limped on, relentlessly.

 

How, oh God, I entreated, did we become trapped within

this substance out of which we stare so hopelessly

upon our own eventual dissolution? How for a single

minute could we dream or imagine that thought would

save us, children deliver us, from the body of this

death? Not in time, my mind rang with my despair; not

in mortal time, not in this place, not anywhere in the

world would blood be staunched, or the dark wrong be

forever righted, or the parted be rejoined. Not in

this time, not mortal time. The substance was too

gross, our utopias bought with too much pain."

 

--Loren Eisley, "The Night Country"

When I saw there was an entry on Kurt Vonnegut I was all "ooh!" but then I read it. Kind of funny that Assange seems to only be able to appreciate Vonnegut for his social commentary, but not for what I think most people would say is his main point, the deep absurdity of human existence. I guess for Assange, life is srs bsns...

  On 12/3/2010 at 5:44 AM, kaini said:

How for a single

minute could we dream or imagine that thought would

save us, children deliver us, from the body of this

death?

on watmm, we will live forever...

  On 12/3/2010 at 5:46 AM, lumpenprol said:

When I saw there was an entry on Kurt Vonnegut I was all "ooh!" but then I read it. Kind of funny that Assange seems to only be able to appreciate Vonnegut for his social commentary, but not for what I think most people would say is his main point, the deep absurdity of human existence.

i think that's a pretty good commentary on his personality and motivation. i wonder what vonnegut would make of the whole wikileaks business... it's like being able to see, i dunno, excel or something as a glorified calculator, without being able to consider the potential applications of it.

  On 12/3/2010 at 5:46 AM, lumpenprol said:

. Kind of funny that Assange seems to only be able to appreciate Vonnegut for his social commentary,

yeah i was thinking that when i read that too, but then again part of my personality thinks that way too, blinkered one track old activists.

i still think that wikileaks is a setup to catch and eliminate real leekers though.

  On 12/3/2010 at 6:09 AM, delet... said:

  On 12/3/2010 at 5:46 AM, lumpenprol said:

. Kind of funny that Assange seems to only be able to appreciate Vonnegut for his social commentary,

 

yeah i was thinking that when i read that too, but then again part of my personality thinks that way too, blinkered one track old activists.

 

i still think that wikileaks is a setup to catch and eliminate real leekers though.

lol, that'd be hilarious, like that pedo-snaring show with the host that everyone made gifs of. Incidentally why does Assange have baby-skin but completely gray hair? He does look like a villain from a harry potter movie...

you guys kind of sound like dicks

hi julian

  On 12/3/2010 at 6:15 AM, Adjective said:

you guys kind of sound like dicks

more like batcocks.

(the internets, serious business (first time i've used that term))

i was just in a sensitive moment and reading through the blog critcisms made me feel down for some reason

carry on

  On 12/3/2010 at 5:27 AM, kaini said:

i agree - after a read of the blog (which is sort of addictive), i am left in no doubt his intentions are good and he's very idealistic. but it all sorta reads like the musings of someone in their first year of eng lit in college or something.

 

and it actually weighs against the 'assange is not wikileaks' argument, i think. it would seem wikileaks is very much assange.

what makes you think after reading that 'wikileaks is very much assange'? i just watched a talk at a hacker conference that Assange was unable to attend, and Jake Appelbuam replaced him as keynote speaker. And for that moment was the PR spokesperson for Wikileaks The speech Appelbuam made was quite possibly the best and most concise mission statement from wikileaks that i've ever heard or read. It made me convinced more than ever that Assange is merely a scapegoat at this point almost playing the role of a human heat-sink. If Jake isn't bullshitting, removing Assange will do absolutely nothing to stop wikileaks leaking shit. And that is quite a powerful fact.

not super new but if you have any doubt of Wikileaks future influence on events in the USA or in the world in general please watch (there were federal agents standing on either side of the stage there to question Assange )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FX5yWgMzNXg

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e8AvX3OLjQM&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr0bjZC6aBA&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8LyUeEBaanI&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s7042QbVEJg&feature=related

possibly a little 'emo' for some, but it answers all of the questions people were asking earlier ie 'what is wikileaks purpose' 'what do they want to accomplish'. Well here it is, and congrats to Appelbaum for making the speech knowing federal agents were probably going to question him immediately after speaking.

WikiLeaks,org domain killed by US http://everydns.net/ after claimed mass attacks KEEP US STRONG https://donations.datacell.com/

web • 03.12.10

WIKILEAKS: the company hosting the Domain name for Wikileaks has shut it down go to : http://88.80.13.160/

very interesting background informations on the sexual abuse:

http://rixstep.com/1/20101001,01.shtml

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WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange is at the centre of intense media speculation and a hate campaign against him in America, following the leak of 250,000 US diplomatic cables.

 

He will be live online to answer Guardian readers' questions at 1pm today, subject to his access to an internet connection - which is very much a live issue. His online interview comes at the end of a week of shocking revelations from the cables and on a day when WikiLeaks has been fighting US attempts to take its website down.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2010/...-assange-online

Re: "Assange isn't that smart hurr durr"

What the fuck guys? Who'd you expect him to be? Jesus? What worries me the most about your comments is that it means you somehow expect only perfect people(of which there are none) to do these kinds of actions.

He's causing friction with stuff I don't like, that's enough for me.

Assange live webchat is exciting

Try again

This site's insane. If it does load it's almost impossible to sieve through all the comments and questions. If he does pop up make sure to just refresh his profile page and avoid the minefield.

  On 12/3/2010 at 2:25 PM, Gary C said:

This site's insane. If it does load it's almost impossible to sieve through all the comments and questions. If he does pop up make sure to just refresh his profile page and avoid the minefield.

this is the actual important page is it?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/blog/2010/dec/03/wikileaks-julian-assange-online