Autechre Do people think you're a pretentious music asshole?

  On 12/7/2010 at 5:45 PM, bigs said:

  On 12/7/2010 at 8:12 AM, Iain C said:

i don't think people care about your musical tastes as much as you think they do. you should also possibly take this as a sign to stop evangelising your music to people who are indifferent at best. keep them as your own dirty little secret. IDM club.

 

most intelligent thing i've read on this board

thankx bigs. best wishes to you.

  On 12/7/2010 at 5:57 PM, TwiddleBot said:

Y'all sound like you should move to Montreal I think. My first week I moved here the mall was playing 'blue room' by the orb and a random cafe was playing Bola Soup. I've walked into small record shops and lounged out because they were playing Chiastic Slide.

lolwat? I should go out more often...

  On 12/7/2010 at 6:04 PM, Enter a new display name said:

lolwat? I should go out more often...

There was some new mall that opened up in the downtown underground center when I first moved here in like 2002 or so.. what was it called.. Place des Ailes or something like that, near the Eaton Center. They don't play it now but for the first year they were open, whenever I walked through they were playing ambient idm ;)

im not pretentious but im most definitely an asshole

"you guys like my new track"

"this sucks, fuck you"

  On 12/7/2010 at 6:15 PM, bigfatLOL said:

im not pretentious but im most definitely an asshole

 

"you guys like my new track"

 

"this sucks, fuck you"

Sometimes assholeism makes for great entertainment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-nChX_0HMY

pretentious is just your opinion, or label, man.. yet, what's being said is correct. so, idk. i guess it's pretentious. it's also LAME that people will write you off and then label you the pretentious one, though.

  On 12/7/2010 at 6:53 PM, mafted said:

pretentious is just your opinion, or label, man.. yet, what's being said is correct. so, idk. i guess it's pretentious. it's also LAME that people will write you off and then label you the pretentious one, though.

pretentious means having pretensions to something greater within the context (ie, i have a greater idea and knowledge of music than you)

without valid claim

so almost every single time i am called pretentious (simply by listening to the music I have on which I should by my own right in my room), they are using the word completely in the wrong sense, and are thus having pretensions to greater knowledge of the word than I, therefore they are the pretentious ones.

but if i explain that to them, i come off as validating their accusation.

dictatorship of the narrow-minded.

you can't win.

music isn't a physical thing, just sound. to say you even understand a track completely, that would be in a way pretending. therefore everyone is pretentious even without knowing. RIGHT!?

  On 12/7/2010 at 9:07 PM, yek said:

music isn't a physical thing, just sound. to say you even understand a track completely, that would be in a way pretending. therefore everyone is pretentious even without knowing. RIGHT!?

I know you are pretentious, that is all.

  On 12/7/2010 at 9:29 PM, Ranky Redlof said:

  On 12/7/2010 at 9:07 PM, yek said:

music isn't a physical thing, just sound. to say you even understand a track completely, that would be in a way pretending. therefore everyone is pretentious even without knowing. RIGHT!?

I know you are pretentious, that is all.

what do you mean 'understand a track'? when i first heard what could be called 'experimental' (bucephalus bouncing ball) i was immediately intrigued, i think just because i had never heard anything like it. some are interested in new rhythms and noises and some aren't.. i guess the question is why.

Despite visiting this forum daily, I don't really listen to IDM music that much (I did for a few months in late 2009/early 2010, but then I sort of lost interest & maybe listen to it once or twice a month now). I do listen to a lot of "weird" music like Harry Partch, & noisy lofi music like Tonetta, which I suppose could come off as pretentious. I don't really go around bragging about it like this shows I have more refined tastes than people who listen to top 40, though. It doesn't matter what you listen to, so long as you're getting something out of it.

I still like making people I know listen to autechre with me to see their reaction. Just have it on in the background already playing. Generally they tell me in a polite way "the fucks wrong with you?"

I learned the lesson a long, long time ago (10 years) to shut my fuck up about music and just enjoy it myself.

Most people don't give a fuck what music you want to push into their ears, for the same reason you probably wouldn't give a fuck either if somebody did the same to you.

Music is a solitary pleasure, not a social one.

  On 12/7/2010 at 11:20 PM, Philip Glass said:

I learned the lesson a long, long time ago (10 years) to shut my fuck up about music and just enjoy it myself.

 

Most people don't give a fuck what music you want to push into their ears, for the same reason you probably wouldn't give a fuck either if somebody did the same to you.

 

Music is a solitary pleasure, not a social one.

this.

  On 12/7/2010 at 11:22 PM, Makinami said:

  On 12/7/2010 at 11:20 PM, Philip Glass said:

Music is a solitary pleasure, not a social one.

 

this.

What about live shows ?

  On 12/7/2010 at 8:12 AM, Iain C said:

  On 12/7/2010 at 6:03 AM, esstevancarlos said:

Often times I try introduce Autechre to people. Why? 'Cause I fucking love Autechre. Anyway, it's tough because the casual listener* assumes I'm pretentious for even humoring the idea of Autechre's music. It's disappointing because, like many here, i'm quite serious about their work. Anyway does this happen to anyone else? Has anyone ever successfully introduced Autechre, or similar, work to casual listeners? One complaint I hear pretty consistently from casual listeners is that Autechre sounds "boring". WTF?

 

 

*Listeners who would never come to this forum

 

i don't think people care about your musical tastes as much as you think they do. you should also possibly take this as a sign to stop evangelising your music to people who are indifferent at best. keep them as your own dirty little secret. IDM club.

This.

  On 12/7/2010 at 11:27 PM, the anonymous forumite said:

  On 12/7/2010 at 11:22 PM, Makinami said:

  On 12/7/2010 at 11:20 PM, Philip Glass said:

Music is a solitary pleasure, not a social one.

 

this.

 

What about live shows ?

You understood the point. Of course live shows are different, but in the day-by-day I'm ubersilent bout my music. My friends only like shakira, casual dance music and shit like that

I feel bad for some of you guys. I have an IDM friend that I geek out with on a fairly regular basis.

I actually rarely talk to people offline about what I'm listening to, but I'm always asking what they're listening to. I've found a number of albums I like outside of my usual genre pool that way.

  On 12/7/2010 at 11:20 PM, Philip Glass said:

I learned the lesson a long, long time ago (10 years) to shut my fuck up about music and just enjoy it myself.

 

Most people don't give a fuck what music you want to push into their ears, for the same reason you probably wouldn't give a fuck either if somebody did the same to you.

 

Music is a solitary pleasure, not a social one.

You were making sense up until this last line. Such a big generalization and, so wrong.

probably

being a pretentious music asshole is soooooo 2010!

but the real pretentious assholes do it all year long, every year. lol

  On 12/7/2010 at 11:20 PM, Philip Glass said:

Music is a solitary pleasure, not a social one.

my idm friends are all either dead or moved to texas (yeah i dont know either)