Drums

  On 12/25/2010 at 8:31 PM, wake said:

  On 12/25/2010 at 8:28 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

  On 12/25/2010 at 8:27 PM, wake said:

As for making bass out of a kick, it works like a synthesizer, you go in and loop a single cycle of the kick drum... then filter if it's too bright or harsh, and tune to your liking.

SO, you let the transients out, right??

wat

 

This is what you should loop up:

what i meant was, exactly that, you sample a bit that's constant, transients are the parts where the sample isn't constant, like the beginning or the end of the sample

Well, if you wanna make, for instance, a sub bass out of an 808 kick drum, you're not going to want to sample the attack.

  On 12/25/2010 at 8:37 PM, wake said:

  On 12/25/2010 at 8:34 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

  On 12/25/2010 at 8:31 PM, wake said:

  On 12/25/2010 at 8:28 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

  On 12/25/2010 at 8:27 PM, wake said:

As for making bass out of a kick, it works like a synthesizer, you go in and loop a single cycle of the kick drum... then filter if it's too bright or harsh, and tune to your liking.

SO, you let the transients out, right??

wat

 

This is what you should loop up:

what i meant was, exactly that, you sample a bit that's constant, transients are the parts where the sample isn't constant, like the beginning or the end of the sample

 

Well, if you wanna make, for instance, a sub bass out of an 808 kick drum, you're not going to want to sample the attack.

yes yes, the attack, sorry, thank for all this info

keep it coming

  On 12/25/2010 at 8:31 PM, wake said:

  On 12/25/2010 at 8:28 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

  On 12/25/2010 at 8:27 PM, wake said:

As for making bass out of a kick, it works like a synthesizer, you go in and loop a single cycle of the kick drum... then filter if it's too bright or harsh, and tune to your liking.

SO, you let the transients out, right??

wat

 

This is what you should loop up:

lol

is that what they call microsampling, when you only sample a cycle of an entire wave??

  On 12/25/2010 at 8:34 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

 

 

of course you need little envelopes on the start and end of the cycle right? so that it doesn't clip? or do you look for a perfect match??

  On 12/25/2010 at 8:56 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

  On 12/25/2010 at 8:34 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

 

 

of course you need little envelopes on the start and end of the cycle right? so that it doesn't clip? or do you look for a perfect match??

It just has to start and end on 0, then there will be no clipping.

  On 12/25/2010 at 8:45 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

is that what they call microsampling, when you only sample a cycle of an entire wave??

Although it might work, sampling only one wavelength is much more work than just using a synthesizer, which should have the same result.

  On 12/25/2010 at 9:12 PM, blsked said:

  On 12/25/2010 at 8:45 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

is that what they call microsampling, when you only sample a cycle of an entire wave??

 

Although it might work, sampling only one wavelength is much more work than just using a synthesizer, which should have the same result.

but how to get there through the synth??? which knobs to twist to achieve a 808 kick???

  On 12/25/2010 at 8:27 PM, wake said:

  On 12/25/2010 at 8:22 PM, Adam Beker said:

Well, probably that's why they doesn't sound good

lol

 

(edit: Take it from the guy who has Clark as his avatar to tell me my drums are shit 'cause I don't use compression. )

lol ,

they just sound out of place and unbalanaced imo. Maybe not because of compression. And they already had compression when you sampled them so it's not a big problem. Thought you could make them sound better with few effects. I find i stupid to "layer shit so all the frequencies are filled in" istead of just using an eq and reaching better results.

  On 12/25/2010 at 9:18 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

  On 12/25/2010 at 9:12 PM, blsked said:

  On 12/25/2010 at 8:45 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

is that what they call microsampling, when you only sample a cycle of an entire wave??

 

Although it might work, sampling only one wavelength is much more work than just using a synthesizer, which should have the same result.

but how to get there through the synth??? which knobs to twist to achieve a 808 kick???

pitch envelope.

  On 12/25/2010 at 9:18 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

  On 12/25/2010 at 9:12 PM, blsked said:

  On 12/25/2010 at 8:45 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

is that what they call microsampling, when you only sample a cycle of an entire wave??

 

Although it might work, sampling only one wavelength is much more work than just using a synthesizer, which should have the same result.

but how to get there through the synth??? which knobs to twist to achieve a 808 kick???

A kick consists of more than that. With just one wavelength you won't get anywhere. You'll only get a simple tone.

  On 12/25/2010 at 9:27 PM, blsked said:

  On 12/25/2010 at 9:18 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

  On 12/25/2010 at 9:12 PM, blsked said:

  On 12/25/2010 at 8:45 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

is that what they call microsampling, when you only sample a cycle of an entire wave??

 

Although it might work, sampling only one wavelength is much more work than just using a synthesizer, which should have the same result.

but how to get there through the synth??? which knobs to twist to achieve a 808 kick???

 

A kick consists of more than that. With just one wavelength you won't get anywhere. You'll only get a simple tone.

sorry my mistake, i didn't meant the entire kick, but man, when you select a sin or square wave on a synth, the cycles are not the same as the cycle that you take out of the 808 kick?? am i right??, it's a different wave, of course you could get there trough mixing waves but...

  On 12/25/2010 at 9:31 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

sorry my mistake, i didn't meant the entire kick, but man, when you select a sin or square wave on a synth, the cycles are not the same as the cycle that you take out of the 808 kick?? am i right??, it's a different wave, of course you could get there trough mixing waves but...

As far as I know, the 808 kick is made of a sinus wave. The envelope (as Adam Beker said before) makes the difference.

  On 12/25/2010 at 9:27 PM, Adam Beker said:

I find i stupid to "layer shit so all the frequencies are filled in" istead of just using an eq and reaching better results.

definitely not stupid.

what about if your sample doesn't have low frequencies??? how can you boost them up with an eq???

  On 12/25/2010 at 9:34 PM, blsked said:

  On 12/25/2010 at 9:31 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

sorry my mistake, i didn't meant the entire kick, but man, when you select a sin or square wave on a synth, the cycles are not the same as the cycle that you take out of the 808 kick?? am i right??, it's a different wave, of course you could get there trough mixing waves but...

 

As far as I know, the 808 kick is made of a sinus wave. The envelope (as Adam Beker said before) makes the difference.

hahah, lol, ok, that's why i always write "right?" in the end of my sentences.

i didn't know 808 was made from a sine wave, my bad

  On 12/25/2010 at 9:27 PM, Adam Beker said:

I find i stupid to "layer shit so all the frequencies are filled in" istead of just using an eq and reaching better results.

I guess it depends on how you like making music. I thought I'd offer a different perspective. It doesn't take long on Google to find a thread saying "use PSP Vintage Warmer, compression, and EQ."

Just trying to give a little bit less jazzband to the thread is all.

hey hey hey c'mon guys let's not go that way

The way of Bill Clinton?

let's go bill clinton

You'll not only get some 808 sound, but also a little blowie.

now this thread is out of the rails

was good while it last

  On 12/25/2010 at 9:54 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

now this thread is out of the rails

 

was good while it last

It's definitely not lost, we can still discuss the making of drum sounds.

  On 12/25/2010 at 9:59 PM, blsked said:

  On 12/25/2010 at 9:54 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

now this thread is out of the rails

 

was good while it last

 

It's definitely not lost, we can still discuss the making of drum sounds.

i think that what Wake means is that it is probably one of the most common threads on EKT, discussing drums

  On 12/25/2010 at 9:59 PM, blsked said:

  On 12/25/2010 at 9:54 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

now this thread is out of the rails

 

was good while it last

 

It's definitely not lost, we can still discuss the making of drum sounds.

i'm gonna be honest, at some time in this thread i thought you were trolling because you seem to know sufficient stuff about sound

  On 12/25/2010 at 10:02 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

i think that what Wake means is that it is probably one of the most common threads on EKT, discussing drums

No I really didn't mean anything by it.

IT WAS FOR THE LOLS!

FOR THE LOLS!!!!!