Numerology Five12

i would get expert sleepers software and get real CV gate out of this program. that would be a great combo

3 owns, lots of little improvements over 2 + launchpad support is way cool for fast live control. i made my last full-length & couple eps & most all the stuff on my soundcloud by jamming out midi from Numerology to hardware (mpc, 626, fs1r, tx802) while tape is running.

are presets automatically mapped to the launch pad? That's one thing in 2 that is a bit annoying. The mapping system is a bit tedious.

I'm going to buy 3 SE and probably a launchpad this week. :D I think that SE would do nearly everything I want. The only thing I'd really miss is the audio mixer.... That would enable some really cool parallel effects stuff, but I think it's work-around-able with sends...

I want a linux or windows version... I tried it in OS X, great software. modular seuqencer mad acid!

  On 3/25/2012 at 6:26 AM, capitan mission said:

I want a linux or windows version

this shit is too fun.

In the next big firmware update Jim is going to simplify controller mapping for the presets, which will make it way easy to build jammable sets. yay!

Right now I've got it hooked up to the ms2000, preen fm, sp-202 (some pretty gnarly feedback stuff is possible with the ringmod), and the trusty old cz-101. Drumspillage on beats running as an AU. Everything's running into a little 8 channel mixer with sends so it\s super fun to jam with. I've got a feedback send with a cheapo digitech bass pedal and the sp-202 in series which does some cool self oscillating stuff that is really formable with the eqs and ringmod settings. Like a little drone machine in the BG. :D

  On 4/20/2012 at 11:11 PM, slightlydrybeans said:

this shit is too fun.

 

In the next big firmware update Jim is going to simplify controller mapping for the presets, which will make it way easy to build jammable sets. yay!

 

Right now I've got it hooked up to the ms2000, preen fm, sp-202 (some pretty gnarly feedback stuff is possible with the ringmod), and the trusty old cz-101. Drumspillage on beats running as an AU. Everything's running into a little 8 channel mixer with sends so it\s super fun to jam with. I've got a feedback send with a cheapo digitech bass pedal and the sp-202 in series which does some cool self oscillating stuff that is really formable with the eqs and ringmod settings. Like a little drone machine in the BG. :D

could you share that? I would like to listen to it

I'm still working on it. :) My wife and kid are out of town this weekend so it's music time :D I do plan to record it today though, possibly as a youtube video. I'll post it when I do.

Here's some of the noise from the feedback loop. It's amazing how variable it is. This is only from 3 settings on the multieffects, but if you have something with an lof running you can get some cool rythmic stuff going on. I have 2 different guitar multi-effect units, ones a digitech bp50, and the other is a zoom g2. The G2 is nicer sounding but the bp50 does the best with feedback. The G2 just gets all squealy, but the bp50 freaks out and makes more interesting sounds. Envelope followers go nuts.

I suppose this could even be a noise track hahaha. The right channel keeps disappearing and I have no idea why lol.

  On 4/21/2012 at 11:37 PM, slightlydrybeans said:

Here's some of the noise from the feedback loop. It's amazing how variable it is. This is only from 3 settings on the multieffects, but if you have something with an lof running you can get some cool rythmic stuff going on. I have 2 different guitar multi-effect units, ones a digitech bp50, and the other is a zoom g2. The G2 is nicer sounding but the bp50 does the best with feedback. The G2 just gets all squealy, but the bp50 freaks out and makes more interesting sounds. Envelope followers go nuts.

 

http://dl.dropbox.com/u/731647/noise%20fuckery.mp3

 

I suppose this could even be a noise track hahaha. The right channel keeps disappearing and I have no idea why lol.

I like it!!! hard on the brain

I think I'll keep playing around with this non-sequenced kind of stuff as it's way more organic sounding than anything you could do with a sequencer. Cheap effects are so perfect for this.

so i just got the 3.1.2 build and i have some questions. How in the fuck does one 'rescan' au plugins? The new version says it has VST support but for the life of me i can't find a single option on the program that lets me set my VST directory or anything like that, and no VST plugins or even the option/category for them is listed in my modules, only like 4 of my 100 AU plugins show up, which is very frustrating.

HELP :)

i think you have to do that with the native AU validator thing...

no vsts that know of. maybe you're confusing it with the vst version of numerology itself? :-0

yeah no VST support within numerology itself

fuck you're right, i misunderstood. anyways yeah i guess most of the plugins i want to use like Reaktor have AU versions to. So what's this native AU scanner i need to do? I seriously cannot find out how to rescan my au in numerology. IT's not made clear like it is in Cubase, Logic or ableton

all au plugs are located in /HD/Library/Audio/Plug-Ins/Components.

imho Num. will look into this folder meaning scan it on startup. dunno if the au have to be validated but slight could be right. To validate just start logic. but however I think your problem is, already validated plugins that run in logic, do not show up in num. and for this case i don't have an answer for you good sir.

just found this (but still no solution for the last case, sry):

1. If you have Logic already open, then you should save the current project first. If not, launch Logic.
   
2. Within Logic go to Logic Pro > Preferences > Start Logic AU Manager
   
3. A dialog box will pop up asking if you want to "Quit Logic Pro and start the Logic AU Manager?" Click the button that says "Start AU Manager".
   
4. The Logic AU Manager will open, and all plug-ins recognized by Logic will appear in the list. Plug-ins that have been disabled or are no longer installed will be greyed out.
   
5. Find the plug-in you would like to validate and either toggle the check-box or click the "Rescan" button.
   
6. The AU Manager will open a dialog box with information related to the scan.
   

on http://www.izotope.c...mod_id=2&id=271

interesting, ill give that a try and see it solves my problem. thanks

easier trick if you have troubles with AUs in N3 : go to user/library/application support/five 12/numerology and delete AuInfoCache.nmo

then start Numerology

et voilà

also, whenever a plugin is both AU and VST there are many advantages using the AU, such as a much more precise range for parameters. the only downside is that AU that generate MIDI will have a latency while their VST counterpart may not (ex N3AU vs N3VST).

just wanted to stop in and say this program continues to amaze me. Usually when i use the drop down menu to 'add modulator' i put in ones that act as LFOs to control instruments. This time i did it without having anything on the screen besides a sequencer and goddam if you can't automate almost every parameter in the sequencer with a modulator. I guess i shouldn't be surprised, but it's pretty amazing.

yep that's the idea. :) It's totally modular in every sense of the word. You can even put an lfo or envelope on a single step in a sequencer if you want. Or the key filter (that's a great way to make chord progressions btw), or even the step length.

You should hang out over at the five12 forum to see what some of the nut jobs over there come up with. It's quite crazy.

Just got a launchpad to use with Numerology. It's awesome. You have access to basically everything in the racks, and can sequence without even needing to touch the computer. Badass. I got it thinking I'd just launch presets and stuff, but you can do so much more with it it's nuts. :p

Giving this a try. I saw the videos on the site and automatically had an idea to use this for a minimal techno set in the style of Steve Reich, King Crimson and of course Autechre.. Off to a slow start but it seems pretty cool so far. What have you guys been doing with it? Any interesting examples?

everything i've made in the past couple of years has been sequenced on five12 numerology, check out my soundcloud if you want to hear stuff...pretty sure all of the EDM albums by JK were done on it too.

i use it with a launchpad. excellent combination.