Skinny little bully gets chopped in half by chubby kid.

  On 3/15/2011 at 4:28 PM, oscillik said:

  On 3/15/2011 at 4:26 PM, TwiddleBot said:

  On 3/15/2011 at 4:23 PM, luke viia said:

i just gotta say, calling the police is quite the lol

 

i can only imagine how that would have worked out. the next day the officer steps to the scrawny bully.

 

"Now, Casey doesn't want you to keep bullying him, and we'll send you to juvenile hall if we catch you doing it again."

 

Scrawny kid: "Ok officer, I'm sorry. I promise I won't."

 

cop leaves

 

after school: "Casey you fat faggot I'm gonna tell everyone you're a whiny baby!" *push push shove shove*

 

back when i was like 10 or something there were these local kids who used to jump out of an alley everyday with a knife and scare the crap out of me. until we called the cops, and adults were waiting on the other street and caught them in the act.

 

that was the end of that.

 

(in retrospect, i'm sure those kids were just being douchetards, they weren't going to slash me or anything)

in the places i've lived, that wouldn't have been the end of that at all.

no, it wasn't but it ended it for a few years (and ended the knife thing I mean). the rest of the story would be the same douches started lobbing rocks at myself and friends one day, which culminated in them getting body slammed. that was the end of it. these guys were clearly in your 'sociopath' category and are probably behind bars by now for beating their girlfriends or some shit.

-edit- I don't think they were sociopathic. They didn't have the level of intellect required to fit into that category.

Pretty harsh outcome to be honest but wasn't expecting a sucker punch either, the shrimp got lucky he didn't fell on the ground with his head.

  On 3/15/2011 at 4:24 PM, oscillik said:

  On 3/15/2011 at 4:18 PM, Iain C said:

  On 3/15/2011 at 4:13 PM, oscillik said:

  On 3/15/2011 at 4:11 PM, Iain C said:

actually i've only lived in london for five years. i grew up in a small town outside of peterborough on the cambridgeshire/lincolnshire border. also, way to go for bringing personal attacks into what i thought was a fairly civil argument.

 

yeah? i've lived in: Harlow (Essex), Widnes (Cheshire), Saltley and Bordesly Green (Birmingham), St. Helens (Merseyside), Burton-on-Trent and Stapenhill (Staffordshire).

 

 

good for you? i don't know what that's got to do with it. but like i say, i'm out of here. i don't understand why your tone has become so hostile over the past few posts but it's clear we're not going to convince each other of anything.

might have to do with your insinuation that i am a Daily Mail reader, and your implied negative bias towards such people?

 

just throwing that out there.

omfgwtflol

  On 3/15/2011 at 4:28 PM, oscillik said:

in the places i've lived, that wouldn't have been the end of that at all.

i imagine small towns like where i grew up tended more toward the bored, stupid kids with fetal alcohol syndrome category

itt: two people - neither of who think bullying is a good thing - arguing.

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A spokesperson for the school told the Telegraph it "does not tolerate any violence and deals with all cases according to its community-agreed discipline code. Both students in a fight at the school shown on the Internet have been suspended ... the only injury sustained was a grazed knee."

I can totally get both sides of the story.

I used to get harassed a lot because I was teeny, had glasses bigger than my face, played bach fugues and programmed computers.. aka I was a nerdling. After getting punched in the gut once I asked my teacher what should I do if I get beaten up, why can't I defend myself. Her response was basically that I should take the beating and in her words 'hobble on back to school'.

Yay.

  On 3/15/2011 at 4:57 PM, TwiddleBot said:

I can totally get both sides of the story.

 

I used to get harassed a lot because I was teeny, had glasses bigger than my face, played bach fugues and programmed computers.. aka I was a nerdling. After getting punched in the gut once I asked my teacher what should I do if I get beaten up, why can't I defend myself. Her response was basically that I should take the beating and in her words 'hobble on back to school'.

 

Yay.

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It may not be too late to sue this woman for giving you shit advice.

first time i ever got bullied for being a shortass, my grandad taught me how to punch properly (he was a boxing champion in the army).

next time this guy hit me i split his lip an inch and half down his chin, with one punch.

how'd'you like them apples iain?

  On 3/15/2011 at 5:07 PM, The Overlook said:

  On 3/15/2011 at 4:57 PM, TwiddleBot said:

I can totally get both sides of the story.

 

I used to get harassed a lot because I was teeny, had glasses bigger than my face, played bach fugues and programmed computers.. aka I was a nerdling. After getting punched in the gut once I asked my teacher what should I do if I get beaten up, why can't I defend myself. Her response was basically that I should take the beating and in her words 'hobble on back to school'.

 

Yay.

 

Interests: softly stochastic steely stillettoed sensatory sonic sublimity

 

It may not be too late to sue this woman for giving you shit advice.

That video is a beautiful thing. I don't care that it's a 13 year old kid, I hope it caned. Love how he can't even stagger properly as he tries to get away.

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Casey and The Rat

 

The outlook wasn't brilliant for the Casey Haynes that day; The thugs stood four to one, and sent The Rat to start the play. And then when The Rat threw a punch, and then another of the same, A pall-like silence fell upon The Rat who Lost The Game.

 

The struggling Rat got up to go in deep despair. The rest Clung to that hope which springs eternal in the human breast; They thought, "If only Casey could but get a smack at that — We'd put up youtube videos of Casey and The Rat."

 

But fags preceded Casey, as did also Ritchard Gale, And the former was a Demi-god, while the latter was a Fail; So upon that teenage multitude grim malice and great sass; For there seemed but little chance of Casey getting to his class.

 

The Rat let drive a single, to the astonishment of all, And Casey, the much despised, tore the cover off the Troll; And when the dust had lifted, and men saw what had occurred, There was Casey safe at school and The Rat was a smashed turd.

 

Then from NINE THOUSAND throats plus one, there rose a lusty cry; It rumbled through the internets: The Rat must fucking die; It pounded on the mountain and recoiled upon the flat, As Casey was suspended for destroying the little Rat.

 

There was ease in Casey's manner as he stepped into his place; There was power in Casey's bearing and a RAGE lit Casey's face. And when, responding to the blows, The Rat lost his hat, No stranger in the crowd could doubt that Casey beat The Rat.

 

Nine thousand eyes were on him as he threw him to the dirt. Nine thousand tongues applauded when he crumpled from the hurt. Then while the Ratboy’s fagfriends tried to mellow Casey’s trip, Defiance flashed in Casey's eye, a sneer curled Casey's lip.

 

And now the little Ratboy sphere came hurtling through the air, And Casey drove the Ratling hard in haughty grandeur there. Close by the camera caught the show as fear unbridled sped — "That ain't my style," said Casey. "OH SHIT!" the schoolfags said.

 

From the toob-nets, clogged with rage, there went up a glorious roar, Like the beating of the storm-waves on a stern and distant shore; "Kill him! Kill the Ratboy!" shouted some one on the stand; it's likely they'd have killed him had not Casey raised his hand.

 

With a smile of Lulz unbridled great Casey's visage shone; He stilled the rising tumult; he bade the kids farewell; He signaled to the bullied, that tonite we dine in Hell; Casey could ignore one blow, but the Ratboy threw number two.

 

"Fraud!" cried the maddened thousands, and echo answered "Fraud!" But one scornful slam from Casey and the audience was awed. They saw his face grow stern and cold, they saw his muscles strain, And they knew that Casey wouldn't get bullied again.

 

The sneer has fled from Ratboy's lip, his teeth were smashed in hate; He pounded with cruel violence this Rat upon the face. And now the Casey holds the Rat, and now he lets it go, And now the air is shattered by the force of Casey's blow.

 

Oh, somewhere in this favored land, the sun is shining bright, The Casey is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light, And somewhere men are laughing, and little children shout; But there is no joy for Ratboy — mighty Casey knocked him out.

  On 3/15/2011 at 4:02 PM, The Overlook said:

Iain C, you're on a slippery slope here. I love the pacifist manifesto you're bleating out here, I really do. Olive branch and a diplomatic chat and all that. But really, let's not pretend that shit works.

 

If the authorities at your school fail you, call more authorities? Because everybody knows cops are so awesome? WTF.

 

This situation was clearly unfortunate, but sometimes the last shred of integrity youngsters have when it comes to contending with the bullies of the world...is protected by picking the bully up by the scruff of his neck, twirling him above your shoulders, and slamming him onto concrete.

 

When I was a kid, I was not bullied and I was not a bully, but I did witness plenty of bullying. I once got my ass kicked intervening on behalf of a kid who was being bullied. Watching a shy or weak kid, whose glasses are falling off while his nostrils flair up with snot and tears roll down his cheeks...no teacher's intervention will fix that bully's antics nearly as effectively as a slab of concrete met with formidable velocity.

 

The lanky bully was on the path to becoming a sociopath, perhaps, and NOTHING will fix that. If his victim ignores his antics, that fuels him. If his victim fights back, that fuels him. It's lose-lose. HOWEVER, if that bully is NOT on the path to becoming a sociopath, then maybe this moment of unexpected brutality will wake him the fuck up.

 

(I realize this post, like most posts to this thread, is filled with conjecture and hyperbole, but I can't resist indulging in it.)

kid is tortured by teen bully, kid fights back, hurts bully, bully goes home and grabs his older brothers' gun, waits for kid afterschool, bully shoots and kills kid.

its a no win situation...would you be more apt to say "well, at least that kid died for staying strong", rather than "why did someone shoot this kid?"

where i live, a lot of news comes around about people being thrown in jail for attacking someone that breaks into their house...as an adult, if i defend myself i have to be prepared to go to jail and lose my job/money/significant part of my life for it. but if i dont defend myself, i might end up dead.

how should one proceed? see my point? theres no easy answer to it.

Really like the use of bold text in this thread. Good hustle guys.

just to make clear, i commend the kid for standing up for himself, but im also ashamed of the reality that this is what it often has to come down to, and both parties are punished for it.

  On 3/15/2011 at 5:51 PM, Smettingham Rutherford IV said:

where i live, a lot of news comes around about people being thrown in jail for attacking someone that breaks into their house...as an adult, if i defend myself i have to be prepared to go to jail and lose my job/money/significant part of my life for it. but if i dont defend myself, i might end up dead.

 

how should one proceed? see my point? theres no easy answer to it.

We are supposed to have a clause for self defense in our laws here although I sure hope I'm never in a situation where I have to find out how they work in practice, as opposed to theory.

wow im actually *kind of with* Ian C on this one (only in the sense that this is not clear cut like 'oh boy he sure learned a lesson from that one')

i have to say from my own personal experience that i knew a kid in elementary school who was the teacher's pet in 1st grade. He was a real annoying precocious twat, but for some reason the teacher loved him. One day i was walking with him and he started yelling at this kid across the way really loudly

It turned out to be my good neighborhood friend who was kind of a loner and 2 years older than me. I wanted to stay out of it so i just kind of stood back while this little twat railed at my friend, my friend was a very very tall and mature looking guy from being 8. This kid was yelling things at him like 'fat albert' 'you are obsese', the polar opposite of what he actually was. Strange way to insult someone, but anyways my older friend took it for as long as he could. He was encircled by a group of kids all taunting him. I don't remember if the twat hit first, but my friend grabbed the guy by the arm swung him around like he was a rag doll and thew him smack dab into a concrete pillar. I don't remember much after that except for that my friend was in deep trouble, i couldn't see him for over 2 weeks. My mom said that he he was taken to the emergency room and 'could have killed the kid' but in my heart i always thought the little twat deserved it. Unfortunately he did not 'learn a lesson' as some people here are saying. It only made him a much worse kid growing up, i mean i can't argue for sure that this key event played a role in his future development but by age 14 he was speaking in full blown ebonics (white kid from the middle class suburbs) and talking about putting street gang hits on people. All he learned from it was to probably just layer on top of his personality several fake layers of machismo until he can forget about his own insecurity

i hate to sound like a complete hippy fag, but why don't they teach a class in elementary school on having compassion for your fellow human being? trying to at least put in place a foundation for empathy and understanding at an early age. It seems like this is a very low priority and mostly left to parents, when in fact most of these types of conflicts occur on school grounds.

  On 3/15/2011 at 8:37 PM, Awepittance said:

i hate to sound like a complete hippy fag, but why don't they teach a class in elementary school on having compassion for your fellow human being? trying to at least put in place a foundation for empathy and understanding at an early age. It seems like this is a very low priority and mostly left to parents, when in fact most of these types of conflicts occur on school grounds.

You've raised an excellent point here - don't give it the nonsensical, culturally defined label "hippy fag" - it is a solution which makes sense regardless of the semantic labels involved. Yes, education is key from an early age to prevent bullying, and empathy should be reinforced.

  On 3/15/2011 at 8:37 PM, Awepittance said:

i hate to sound like a complete hippy fag, but why don't they teach a class in elementary school on having compassion for your fellow human being? trying to at least put in place a foundation for empathy and understanding at an early age. It seems like this is a very low priority and mostly left to parents, when in fact most of these types of conflicts occur on school grounds.

Do unto others as you would have others do unto you.

I agree, I worry about how much that's actually instilled in schools myself.

  On 3/15/2011 at 8:37 PM, Awepittance said:

why don't they teach a class in elementary school on having compassion for your fellow human being? trying to at least put in place a foundation for empathy and understanding at an early age. It seems like this is a very low priority and mostly left to parents

so, you think that children should be parented not by parents, but by the state?

wow.

it just seems very odd to me to not focus on this aspect of development in schools

  On 3/15/2011 at 8:56 PM, oscillik said:

  On 3/15/2011 at 8:37 PM, Awepittance said:

why don't they teach a class in elementary school on having compassion for your fellow human being? trying to at least put in place a foundation for empathy and understanding at an early age. It seems like this is a very low priority and mostly left to parents

so, you think that children should be parented not by parents, but by the state?

 

wow.

yes that's literally what i said

to clarify since your reaction seems hyperbolic to say the last, why isn't it ever talked about more often schools to treat your fellow student or human being with respect or compassion? I mean maybe these 'anti bullying' attempts are like this, but i seriously doubt it. They seem only to adress symptoms of the problem instead of the symptom itself, by punishing bullying much more than before.

and i'm curious about your seemingly rigid view on what 'parenting' is, what makes that strictly 'parenting' and not a form of education? why can't it be a mixture of both. odd reaction you had!

One thing to remember is that it's difficult to preach things at K-12 institutions when kids go home, turn on the news or log on to the internets and see our narcissistic, post-911, warmongering, corporate-stroking culture in all its high definition glory.

Volumes have been written about this topic, but suffice to say, there's a lot more poison polluting our kids' social interactions than any mere curriculum can hope to remedy!

It's hip (and rewarding) to be a psychopath, didn't ya know?

  On 3/15/2011 at 8:59 PM, Awepittance said:

it just seems very odd to me to not focus on this aspect of development in schools

 

  On 3/15/2011 at 8:56 PM, oscillik said:

  On 3/15/2011 at 8:37 PM, Awepittance said:

why don't they teach a class in elementary school on having compassion for your fellow human being? trying to at least put in place a foundation for empathy and understanding at an early age. It seems like this is a very low priority and mostly left to parents

so, you think that children should be parented not by parents, but by the state?

 

wow.

 

yes that's literally what i said

 

to clarify since your reaction seems hyperbolic to say the last, why isn't it ever talked about in schools to treat your fellow student or human being with respect or compassion?

 

and i'm curious about your seemingly rigid view on what 'parenting' is, what makes that strictly 'parenting' and not a form of education? why can't it be a mixture of both. odd reaction you had!

yes that is literally what you said. you said that since it seems that some parents don't teach this, that the schools should step in and teach it.

slippery slopes.