Britain Invented Dubstep

  On 4/27/2011 at 10:21 PM, tec said:

CROYDON invented dubstep. Please let us have it, all we've got is Kate Moss and Nigel Reo-Coker.

I miss Big Apple. And Beano's has gone too, dammit

  On 4/27/2011 at 11:17 PM, Dropp said:

  On 4/27/2011 at 10:29 PM, Indicator said:

  On 4/27/2011 at 9:54 PM, Dropp said:

2562

Martyn

Shackleton

Clubroot

Zomby

Scuba

Kode9 & the Spaceape

 

  On 4/27/2011 at 9:50 PM, chassis said:

So quit yer whining.

 

You forgot about Skream.

 

No i didn't.. Skream is awful, except a few tracks he did.. Same goes for Benga btw.

 

Edit: i forgot Pinch, RSD and Peverelist like Richy mentioned.

I quite like a bunch of those artists in the OP, but I don't know really what to call what I'm listening to anymore. Like 2562's new album is fantastic, but doesn't resemble anything I'd call dubstep. Here I am trying to get my head around things like what's the difference between 2-step, grime, dubstep, funky - Funky? James Brown is funky. Bootsy Collins is funky. My gym socks are funky. Please find a different term to describe whatever this wank of the week is. Oh yeah and what the hell this new footwork crap? And why people spooge in the general direction of Burial everytime he makes the same track over again defies comprehension.

does anyone actually like Spaceape mc-ing?

  On 4/28/2011 at 2:53 AM, Bob Dobalina said:

And why people spooge in the general direction of Burial everytime he makes the same track over again defies comprehension.

lol

  On 4/27/2011 at 10:14 PM, Awepittance said:

re BCM: i love how protective britains are over their throw away watered down plundered jamaican music genres

I was going to make some smart arse remark here but I didn't want to be seen as defending dubstep.

You guys are 6 months too late.

  On 4/28/2011 at 2:53 AM, Bob Dobalina said:

funky - Funky? James Brown is funky. Bootsy Collins is funky. My gym socks are funky. Please find a different term to describe whatever this wank of the week is.

UK funky

I think it was Summer 2006 when I first caught the digital mystikz. The tunes they were playing blew me away (coupled with the farkin massive bass bins), had never heard anything like it before.

Fast forward to 2009 and dubstep is massive (but still underground if yo get me?), some great innovative producers and variety in the tunes. Pinch, Appleblim, Benga, ital tek, Martyn, boxcutter, most of the big guns have already been mentioned.

By 2011 dubstep is fucked. The only "dubstep" ive purchased this year is the 2562 album and the Ramadanman Fabric CD (both of which have more in common with house than dubstep). Its all going back to house music, as it always does with these sub-genres. Caspa and Rusko hit the big time with their fabric mix cd, got famous, cashed in, went to America, sold their souls and earnt big bucks (rusko more so than Caspa who still has his dub police nights at fabric once a month). Fair play, but its pretty much exactly what happened with trance 10 years ago when Oakenfold moved to America.... Chase and Status used to make some really good drum and bass years ago, they too have made some mega bucks hitting the stadium gigs supporting prodigy / pendulol etc...

The UK underground Bass music scene in general is pretty healthy though - people are moving things forward. Check out The Squires of Gothos (Z-Shed bassy noise etc..), boxcutter has moved on, appleblim and shackleton are into the dub techno now, Surgeon has been incorporating bass into his techno sets the past few years, none of it is strictly dubstep anymore.

/lunchtime waffle over

Haterz gonna etc....

*edit*

And I forgot to add:

FUCK YEAH WE INVENTED DUBSTEP.

  On 4/28/2011 at 1:52 PM, feltcher said:

I think it was Summer 2006 when I first caught the digital mystikz. The tunes they were playing blew me away (coupled with the farkin massive bass bins), had never heard anything like it before.

 

 

By 2011 dubstep is fucked.

There's your history of dubstep.

Never apologise for lunchtime rantings if they are the truth my wise friend.

Okay okay then.. Dubstep is officially dead.

Thnx Korn og Skrillex.

Hello I am old and this cycle happens every time a subgenre is pegged and gains a little popularity.

  On 4/28/2011 at 3:34 PM, Gocab said:

Hello I am old and this cycle happens every time a subgenre is pegged and gains a little popularity.

Im not old, but even Ive the common sense to realise this.

Stoopid thread is stooopid.

  On 4/27/2011 at 11:19 PM, Richy said:

skream and benga used to be good, but they have cashed in (fair play) and turned to shit.

They were definitely important in the early scene.

  On 4/28/2011 at 3:08 AM, Velazquez said:

does anyone actually like Spaceape mc-ing?

He adds to most of Kode 9's minimal tracks, I doubt I'd like him as much working with other producers. I wouldn't call him an MC, he does spoken word in the vein of dub poetry.

  On 4/28/2011 at 3:34 PM, Gocab said:

Hello I am old and this cycle happens every time a subgenre is pegged and gains a little popularity.

I am 28.

I am 54 and my helmet is knackered.

  On 4/28/2011 at 1:52 PM, feltcher said:

Chase and Status used to make some really good drum and bass years ago

Just made me revisit a couple of their long gone releases. I used to fucking rinse this on radio when it came out:-

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SanauZ6zDpA

  On 4/28/2011 at 3:08 AM, Velazquez said:

does anyone actually like Spaceape mc-ing?

yes but not me

an old mate of mine has left the healthy dubstep scene he help create around my neck of the woods and gone into playing dub as he doesn't like the new obnoxious trashy stuff

I'll give it two more years till it goes the way of drum n bass is now, ever since Pendulum made it mainstream it was downhill from there

I wonder if decent techno will make a come back?????

  On 4/29/2011 at 12:02 AM, soundwave said:

an old mate of mine has left the healthy dubstep scene he help create around my neck of the woods and gone into playing dub as he doesn't like the new obnoxious trashy stuff

 

I'll give it two more years till it goes the way of drum n bass is now, ever since Pendulum made it mainstream it was downhill from there

 

 

 

I wonder if decent techno will make a come back?????

saying that this shit is pretty nice

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fnv1CpfMq8

and this is just shit

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nymjfq2kXnI

I had some epic fun regarding Mt. Eden with some of the Dubstepforum heads last year.

Mt. Eden took a remix I did of Imogen Heap (yes, I remixed a trendy song), and added some wobble overtop it, then released it on Youtube as "Imogen Heap Mt. Eden Remix". I was oblivious about it until someone actually accused me of ripping off Mt. Eden's tune.

Upon discovering this, we created a bunch of dupe Youtube accounts and uploaded some fake Mt. Eden remixes that we ourselves crafted. They were so convincingly bad that those who didn't immediately realize it was a pisstake where genuinely confused.

One of the dudes from Mt. Eden eventually apologized on DSF and asked us to 'call off the hounds', so we took down a large chunk of the videos. Some of them still remain though. They're basically the dubstep version of '_______ shreds'.

For a lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHzl5uM_vLE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogFlXcCT1no

  On 4/29/2011 at 2:04 AM, autopilot said:

I had some epic fun regarding Mt. Eden with some of the Dubstepforum heads last year.

 

Mt. Eden took a remix I did of Imogen Heap (yes, I remixed a trendy song), and added some wobble overtop it, then released it on Youtube as "Imogen Heap Mt. Eden Remix". I was oblivious about it until someone actually accused me of ripping off Mt. Eden's tune.

 

Upon discovering this, we created a bunch of dupe Youtube accounts and uploaded some fake Mt. Eden remixes that we ourselves crafted. They were so convincingly bad that those who didn't immediately realize it was a pisstake where genuinely confused.

 

One of the dudes from Mt. Eden eventually apologized on DSF and asked us to 'call off the hounds', so we took down a large chunk of the videos. Some of them still remain though. They're basically the dubstep version of '_______ shreds'.

 

For a lol:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MHzl5uM_vLE

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogFlXcCT1no

how insular!

  On 4/29/2011 at 1:49 AM, soundwave said:

saying that this shit is pretty nice

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fnv1CpfMq8

the cool kids are now calling this, james blake, burial, et al 'future garage' as opposed to dubstep. me, i just call it 'nice music'.

  On 4/29/2011 at 2:19 AM, kaini said:

  On 4/29/2011 at 1:49 AM, soundwave said:

saying that this shit is pretty nice

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fnv1CpfMq8

 

the cool kids are now calling this, james blake, burial, et al 'future garage' as opposed to dubstep. me, i just call it 'nice music'.

this is one case where i side with the cool kids: need some kind of differentiator to know bad (dubstep) from good (anything else, but particularly future garage)

So what are some good early dubstep albums that I should pick up then? Never plunged into this music before.

  On 5/3/2011 at 11:25 PM, halisray said:

So what are some good early dubstep albums that I should pick up then? Never plunged into this music before.

for early dubstep, check out the early volumes of the dubstep allstars series of mix cds.

also...

the compilation roots of dubstep

bingo beats volumes 1-3 (especially 2 & 3)

horsepower productions - in fine style & to the rescue

here are some of my favorite non-early dubstep albums:

vex'd - degenerate

dusk & blackdown - margins music

cyrus - from the shadows

pinch - underwater dancehall

skream - skream

benga - diary of an afro warrior

shackleton - 3 eps

the two skull disco compilations (soundboy punishments & soundboy's gravestone gets desecrated by vandals)

scuba - triangulation

edit: can't read