getting "swing" on drums

Funk (and swing) is what you don't play, it's the space between events.

is what you don't say, it's the silence you don't fill

buja and apprecilove to jah aka uwe schmidt aka Atom™

  On 3/7/2016 at 10:50 AM, Test Fforet said:

Funk (and swing) is what you don't play, it's the space between events.

is what you don't say, it's the silence you don't fill

 

 

 

 

buja and apprecilove to jah aka uwe schmidt aka Atom™

<3

Uwe does no wrong.

Turn off quantize.

Swing it.

To be honest I have never understood how swing works in DAWs and sequencers. This is probably because I play drums myself and foolish pride prevents me from getting it and letting some clunky piece of chips and capacitors, a stupid machine for gods sake you even have to tell it to play and stop it has no improvisational capabilities a dumb piece of south east asian silicon with an even dumber and error-prone and inhuman sequence of 1s and 0s inside telling it what to do man cannot measure everything in his foolish quest to invent an ever more complex Theory Of Everything but in doing so he misses the point and the music will always live from the flesh and blood fingertips of a trained real musician who has seen life and knows how it hurts and puts all his soul into his craft, being ever imperfect but it does not matter as he plays directly on the hearts and minds of the audience taking them to another level of existence as they become enchanted and hypnotized and soothed and surprised by the organic flow of pure notes which bring back memories of the sweet summer sunshine so many years ago or the smell of fresh fallen snow on a silent winter morning or that feeling of drifting through space when a carefully trained and curated beat is tugging your conscious away from this reality to look from far away in space and time and see all the paths and motions that make up the universe interconnect and flow into each other playing and reacting and giving birth to new and unexpected waves on the canvas that you see unraveling in front of you from seeing continents drift apart and back together again slower than slowly so you know you cannot see but only simply gutturally feel it as simply one of the waveforms in nature's great Fourier transform which forms itself in front of you as you have already closed your eyes letting your ears and your whole body to be smoothly carried by the rhythmic reverberations around you at infinity ppqn on and on and on and imperceptibly slower or faster or suddenly yanking you around as to wake you up or gradually dropping hints and preparing you for something something which you can not know it will be a leap of faith but you can have faith because the players know what they are doing and definitely did not smoke too much weed before their set but maybe you did but much much much more importantly because you are not listening to some fisher price chunk of plastic! do it.

Did anyone else notice the "similar topics" algorithm doesn't understand the difference between swing and swag?

lol good catch RSP, and good job putting swing on text, thawkins.

  On 3/4/2018 at 11:30 AM, thawkins said:

To be honest I have never understood how swing works in DAWs and sequencers. This is probably because I play drums myself and foolish pride prevents me from getting it and letting some clunky piece of chips and capacitors, a stupid machine for gods sake you even have to tell it to play and stop it has no improvisational capabilities a dumb piece of south east asian silicon with an even dumber and error-prone and inhuman sequence of 1s and 0s inside telling it what to do man cannot measure everything in his foolish quest to invent an ever more complex Theory Of Everything but in doing so he misses the point and the music will always live from the flesh and blood fingertips of a trained real musician who has seen life and knows how it hurts and puts all his soul into his craft, being ever imperfect but it does not matter as he plays directly on the hearts and minds of the audience taking them to another level of existence as they become enchanted and hypnotized and soothed and surprised by the organic flow of pure notes which bring back memories of the sweet summer sunshine so many years ago or the smell of fresh fallen snow on a silent winter morning or that feeling of drifting through space when a carefully trained and curated beat is tugging your conscious away from this reality to look from far away in space and time and see all the paths and motions that make up the universe interconnect and flow into each other playing and reacting and giving birth to new and unexpected waves on the canvas that you see unraveling in front of you from seeing continents drift apart and back together again slower than slowly so you know you cannot see but only simply gutturally feel it as simply one of the waveforms in nature's great Fourier transform which forms itself in front of you as you have already closed your eyes letting your ears and your whole body to be smoothly carried by the rhythmic reverberations around you at infinity ppqn on and on and on and imperceptibly slower or faster or suddenly yanking you around as to wake you up or gradually dropping hints and preparing you for something something which you can not know it will be a leap of faith but you can have faith because the players know what they are doing and definitely did not smoke too much weed before their set but maybe you did but much much much more importantly because you are not listening to some fisher price chunk of plastic! do it.

damn son that's some inspired stuff right there!

  On 3/4/2018 at 5:07 AM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bSxg0ikXtw

This guy always bothered me because he talks a lot of trash and tries to invalidate these genres by showing how "easy" it is to create tracks but from his examples it seems like he couldn't make a really good sounding track if he tried. They always lack punch and any real quality, which kind of negates his point...

I mean, I know he's joking and trolling but it's hard not to sense some resentment in these videos.

i dunno, the stock of pictures of actual swings on the video and some of the sound fx on his voice and pseudo intellectual vocabulary made me lol

It's certainly funny, I guess I'm just averse to people who over-criticize everything these days. Probably because I see it in myself. I'm quick to judge and call things cliched but often I lack the creativity to make something truly worthwhile myself. I see that in that youtuber and in a lot of other people today, especially on social media. Everyone wants to shit on the new biggest thing but lack the creativity and drive to make something better.

Reminds me of how Snoop Dogg was criticizing the new wave of triplet-feel rap, yet people are still out there using that sound in really exciting and oroginal ways! Like yeah, Snoop an accomplished rapper, he's put in his time but his flow seems antiquated and simple compared to some of the lyrical tricks people are pulling off today. Seems like he's just closing himself off to new ways of thought. Aren't new frontiers and innovation what we desire in art? Of course quality should come first, but it's hard to argue that it's primary. Someone could releas the best, most high quality 70's style psychedelic rock album of all time tomorrow, but would it be appreciated? You could apply that to any genre. Early 90's jazz influenced hip hop, doo-wop, drill n bass, acid, etc.

Like I said, I see this quality of wanting to shit on everything in myself. I often want to criticize radio or popular Spotify EDM as being bad but it really isn't. A lot of it is very well crafted and I struggle to understand how these producers are able to create such a fluid, powerful and dynamic sound.

I see a lot of the instagram posts of music makers and synth heads and it all starts sounding very flat in comparison to a lot of stuff being released. Part of that problem is song structure: a lot of the songs tend to meander on and have no real direction. But a lot of the problem is just that the sound of synth jams is starting to sound straight out of the 90's or early 2000's and it's obvious that young people are starved for something different, something more dynamic and hard-hitting. The reverb tails and side chain compression on some of these popular tracks is nothing short of brilliant and artful. They're able to say a lot more with fewer instruments and melodies, and more with finesse of sound design.

Bringing it all back around, that's exactly what that youtuber seems to lack. He can ape a sound in a crude way but I feel like he would be hard pressed to actually make a good track that makes you want to move or revel in the textures. Satire is easy. Doing the creative work is hard.

I'm getting too srs though. His videos do make me chuckle in all honesty. I just worry about the guy the same way I worry about myself. He seems like he's stagnating and the world is getting away from him and his response is to be jaded and critical instead of joining in on the innovative fun that is materializing every day right before our very eyes.

I definetly feel ya, i identify myself with a lot of the examples you mentioned but i didn't look at him as a musician as much as a troll/comedian so i didn't even noticed the quality of what he produced... and yeah ridiculing things is easy but i bet i couldnt do it as fun as he did, i would eventually sound bitter and jealous probably...

I just couldn't watch the video because from the first moments it seemed like this modern day youtube lol rofl bright colors style which kind of grates me.

Ocmon! The guy is funny as faq... Ok itz modern shitty music that he talks about, so itz not an impossible task.

Have yuer seen dudly moore's piano parody of beethoven? Even greatness like beethoven could be ridiculed in a creative funny way, let alone todays mostly moronic music

imo

I was being an uptight sadboi. Don't take me seriously.

I often use swing on my tunes. I'm using Beatmaker 2 if that helps.

the third fourth at 100% swing equals the third third (the third triolic half). So 0% - 100% swing are the places between the second or third fourth and the second or third triolic half (third).

  On 3/31/2018 at 12:12 AM, darreichungsform said:

the third fourth at 100% swing equals the third third (the third triolic half). So 0% - 100% swing are the places between the second or third fourth and the second or third triolic half (third).

There is no purpose for that message except to spread terror in the hearts of those who fear the swing...

  On 3/31/2018 at 1:47 AM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

 

  On 3/31/2018 at 12:12 AM, darreichungsform said:

the third fourth at 100% swing equals the third third (the third triolic half). So 0% - 100% swing are the places between the second or third fourth and the second or third triolic half (third).

There is no purpose for that message except to spread terror in the hearts of those who fear the swing...

 

Nobody should fear the swing...