PWSteal.Ldpinch.D vs It Doesn't Matter

sounds like the pulse repitition frequency codes frm the fire control radar (track) on the sa-10 grumble -

  On 6/14/2011 at 9:36 PM, Mcdergbit said:

sounds to me like he sampled 'it doesn't matter'.

 

even if they used the "same drum machine" which no-one here can identify, why would he go out his way of doing the exact drum sequence (programming)?

Because every song in the analord set is a stylistic tribute to another piece. Could just be a disco preset on the machine that both artists found to sound cool also.

if i had a dollar for every time i have to revert this on wiki

yeah maybe. but i think it's no coincident. pretty sure richard knows the chemical brothers track, as most of us do.

it's a preset

it's like complaining that you keep hearing all this DnB with this fucking amen break nonsense all over it.

preset from what drum machine? i need proof!

  On 6/10/2011 at 2:51 PM, ZoeB said:

  On 6/10/2011 at 2:29 PM, psn said:

Unless someone sampled someone.

If Richard D. James sampled Simons + Rowlands, it's a pretty gratuitous invitation for a lawsuit, as it's trivially easy to punch a house beat into a digital drum machine and get pretty much that same sound, plus it's better to have each drum on a separate track and not yet EQed or compressed to the needs of a completely different mix. So I really doubt it's a sample. There's absolutely no point.As far as things that sound suspiciously similar to Dig Your Own Hole go, compare the titular track to Junkie XL's No Remorse, released the same year.

  On 6/10/2011 at 3:11 PM, psn said:

Seeing as the sound is nearly identical in both productions, it's either:- A stock drum machine in both tracks- A heavily tweaked production of a drum machine in one track, sampled in the other- A heavily tweaked production of a drum machine in both tracks, arriving at same resultThe last alternative would be quite a coincidence.And it doesn't sound like a stock RZ-1 to me, as far as my memory serves from my own not so much used RZ-1. I'll have a go at recreating the beat on it sometime soon.

This has become way more interesting than I initially expected, especially after these posts...Now I really want to know what drum machine(s) were used...(I doubt it's a sample as well, I can't see Richard doing that, especially on an Analord track)

The tempos are also exactly the same, arent' they? And the AFX track has that little extra syncopated snare near the end of the 8 bar turn.

maybe its an old sample bank for an sp1200..Could be anything.

  On 6/14/2011 at 9:36 PM, Mcdergbit said:

sounds to me like he sampled 'it doesn't matter'.

 

even if they used the "same drum machine" which no-one here can identify, why would he go out his way of doing the exact drum sequence (programming)?

Because aphex does that. He recreated flow coma with the original machines for the hell of it

if you asked this question on analog heaven someone will know

Jebus fuck it's just 1 fucking standard drum beat note repeated, of course two artists in the history of mankind might have repeated it.

I mean OMG Neil Young : Fuckin'Up and Radiohead :There There

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKaDCP-wKr8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7AQSLozK7aA

PWSteal.Ldpinch.D via Casio RZ-1:

This isn't the one.

why doesn't someone download this and try each vintage drum sound till you find the right one

Sample party!

it's night / heat debate all over again

SAMPLE

its the LINN LM-1

case closed.

i wonder how much it matters having the original machine when it concerns digital drum machines. Instead of using samples. I know the LM-1 has a looped sample for the hi hats so its always changing. Some think that adds to the swing feel, but other than that what else?

lol well it's better this thread turned out this way. i'm curious too. i've always thought it's a sample

lol (again) ok now i'm convinced it's a drum machine

i'm not convinced. sounds similar to the LM1 but they would have to layer it, higher the pitch of the hi-hats, EQ/compress it to get it anywhere near that drum sound. I doubt aphex would go through all that trouble to make it sound identical to the It Doesn't Matter beat, when he could just easily sample it.

hmm yep. also, -maybe i'm wrong- it sounds slightly off beat if you listen closely

I think I found another instance of it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtoKSoS1i5k

Wikipedia says it's a Linn Drum LM-1.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linn_LM-1

IDM (it doens't matter)

both excellent tracks.