Premier League Season 2011-2012

Team in the relegation zone will fight harder than everybody else at this stage of the season. United still have Everton and Sunderland, if City win at the Ethijad who knows.

Great effort by Wigan - gutsy, well organized defending and they were very good going forward for much of the match.

We were shit.

ffs United. Now we probably have to suffer another season with Wigan.

Better Martinez and Wigan than Steve Kean and fucking Blackburn. lol

City 5-1 up, Tevez hat-trick. City's superior goal difference could win them the title.

Paul Lambert is a mentalist, decided to play with no defenders and 8-men midfield.

I haven't really been following Norwich this season. But why have they been doing so well? (not counting this result of course)

They have a very organized midfield, they suffocate the opposition. Constructing a team around Grant Holt has helped a lot, he is a beast, he is the sun of the team and rest of them are the planets.

Why the fuck haven't Steve Kean been fired yet.

Funny you say that, the press were tipping Steve Kean for manager of the year. If they sack him, Venkys would have to pay him something like 5 million in compensations.

Ashley Young is a fucking piece of shit diver, i fucking hate that guy somobody please break his fucking face.

He's been so good this season. He's finally begun to fulfill his potential since moving to United.

But yeah, for some reason he's fucking diving.

Another title won by referee favours.

Disgraceful.

lol

ManU Fans: Don't ever say one more fucking word about Argentina, Italy, etc.

Alex Mcleish is one of the worst manager to ever managed the game. Aston Villa are so fucking blah, dull, no creativity, no spark no nothing.

That's what makes Young such a spectacularly cuntish cunt. United should handle this AV side, at home no less, with minimal effort...hell, even a sending off or two shouldn't keep them from all three points.

If Ferguson were half the classy legend he's made out to be, he'd put a stop to it. Period.

Yes Young was clearly going down, but the defender clipped him twice and the ref had little option. it was an extremely soft foul but it was still a foul (I feel a penalty is too harsh of a punishment, and the indirect free kick should be used potentially for soft fouls in the box (i.e. not a bookable offense). The defender shouldn't have dangled a leg, and Villa for the whole game were too far from any United players, which allowed them to be run at time and time again. Villa are shocking, really really poor. United started brightly and then faded, but scored goals at the crucial times.

fucking lol @ how different that post would be if it was Suarez lol

  On 4/15/2012 at 8:02 PM, Rambo said:

fucking lol @ how different that post would be if it was Suarez lol

Not really, I'm not a United fan and not a Liverpool fan. The good thing about lower league football is that diving does seem to be so bad, or at least doesn't suffer from 30 slow-mo's in HD or animated gifs. The problem is that soft fouls, where the contact is very minimal (as it was with Young), is that a penalty is probably a disproportionate punishment. The refs see the contact (that was easy to see in the Young case) but in real-time and in a split decision needs to decide if Young/Suarez whoever is already going down. It seems to be that most of the time the refs back the attacker and give him the benefit of the doubt (which is right, because they have to clearly see it as simulation, if these any doubt then it's probably a foul). Diving is a shame because it could easily cut out (video replays, retrospective punishments, different onfield punishments for fouls in the box etc etc), at the moment it's easy to do and low risk/high reward.

Soft fouls? Contact doesnt mean a foul. I'd love to know where this ridiculous reasoning (which is very popular right now) has come from. It wasn't a foul, soft foul, penalty or anything else. He dived.

  On 4/15/2012 at 8:37 PM, Rambo said:

Soft fouls? Contact doesnt mean a foul. I'd love to know where this ridiculous reasoning (which is very popular right now) has come from. It wasn't a foul, soft foul, penalty or anything else. He dived.

I know contact doesn't mean a foul, but tripping or kicking does. I agree that Young dived, he made it look like the defender tripped him up - and in real time you could see the contact and it clearly looked (IMO) like he had been tripped up. Only when you see the slow-mo do you see that Young has dived across his leg to make the contact. The ref has a hard job, but because he saw the contact that probably persuaded him that he was tripped up and that it wasn't a dive or slip or whatever else.

jhonny's point about retroactive punishment and video replay is all that needed to be said...until progress is made in that arena, the Youngs and Pepes of the world will do what they do.

wtf Wigan. I think they are a ugly club but gotta give them credit, what a run! the great escape.

Young. Fucking embarrassment to the shirt. Keano would have kicked him in the cunt for that display.

We were gonna win the match regardless though - Villa came with no ambition.