o00o Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 On 8/5/2011 at 6:41 PM, patternoverlap said: On 8/5/2011 at 6:36 PM, KY said: On 8/5/2011 at 6:05 PM, patternoverlap said: I think that's the biggest misconception: a lot of these electronic labels never really made much money, and some of the ones now that people think have so much money to throw around are actually just struggling to break even. who actually has that misconception? i thought the advent of mp3 sharing made side-effects on small labels like this especially apparent to the music-listening public. I can't recall any specific examples, more just general comments made in various threads about labels like Rephlex having lots of cash to throw around and actually having a big staff of people running the label. Or maybe all of those comments were in jest. Hard to tell sometimes. I wonder if this reason caused release delays at WARP too Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide o00o's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/67916-the-worst-artist-or-record-label-decisions-ever-made/page/3/#findComment-1631742 Share on other sites More sharing options...
awepittance Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 (edited) Richard D James not releasing an Aphex Twin full length in 10 years Quote I was supposed to give them two or three more albums – I can’t remember. Before I gave them this album I said to them: „If I give you another album I have to be not be signed to another label.“ (laughs). I thought they were just going to go: „No way! We’re going to sue you.“ Quote I hadn’t give them a record for like three years. And I said to them: „Alright I’ll give you like a double album but you have let me do my own label afterwards.“ And they just said „Yes“! I tried to do it with Warner Brothers (Aphex Twins record com- pany in the US and Japan) as well but they are more hard to convince. I said like: „I want to do2 Aphex Twin on Rephlex“. And they were just going like: „No way, we’ve bought you, we own you.“ It was going back and forth. I was going: „If you don’t say yes, you will never get anything.“ And then they were like: „Well ok, then we won’t get anything.“ I’m allowed to use AFX on Rephlex so I’ll just have to go back to that. Quote Is the name Aphex Twin important to you?It is really. I mean I could just use other names but I wanted to do Aphex Twin and then just do like very experimental stuff. There are lots of people who are going to buy my (Aphex Twin) album who are not really into my stuff at all, I reckon. And I’m quite into the idea of them buying something very experimental. this interview is from 2001, seems like he's saying simultaneously that he doesnt want to release something rushed or archived as Aphex Twin, instead he wants to be experimental but the dilemma is the aphex twin name is owned by a major record label that probably wouldnt release something unless they approved of it. Yes i understand that analord and The Tuss are technically RDJ, but even here he admits the name Aphex Twin is important to him, which contradicts his earlier statements that it makes no difference to him which pseudonym he releases under. A proper Aphex Twin album on Rephlex would amazing Edited August 5, 2011 by Awepittance Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide awepittance's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/67916-the-worst-artist-or-record-label-decisions-ever-made/page/3/#findComment-1631770 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 5, 2011 Report Share Posted August 5, 2011 On 8/5/2011 at 8:05 PM, Awepittance said: Richard D James not releasing an Aphex Twin full length in 10 years Quote I was supposed to give them two or three more albums – I can’t remember. Before I gave them this album I said to them: „If I give you another album I have to be not be signed to another label.“ (laughs). I thought they were just going to go: „No way! We’re going to sue you.“ Quote I hadn’t give them a record for like three years. And I said to them: „Alright I’ll give you like a double album but you have let me do my own label afterwards.“ And they just said „Yes“! I tried to do it with Warner Brothers (Aphex Twins record com- pany in the US and Japan) as well but they are more hard to convince. I said like: „I want to do2 Aphex Twin on Rephlex“. And they were just going like: „No way, we’ve bought you, we own you.“ It was going back and forth. I was going: „If you don’t say yes, you will never get anything.“ And then they were like: „Well ok, then we won’t get anything.“ I’m allowed to use AFX on Rephlex so I’ll just have to go back to that. Quote Is the name Aphex Twin important to you?It is really. I mean I could just use other names but I wanted to do Aphex Twin and then just do like very experimental stuff. There are lots of people who are going to buy my (Aphex Twin) album who are not really into my stuff at all, I reckon. And I’m quite into the idea of them buying something very experimental. this interview is from 2001, seems like he's saying simultaneously that he doesnt want to release something rushed or archived as Aphex Twin, instead he wants to be experimental but the dilemma is the aphex twin name is owned by a major record label that probably wouldnt release something unless they approved of it. Yes i understand that analord and The Tuss are technically RDJ, but even here he admits the name Aphex Twin is important to him, which contradicts his earlier statements that it makes no difference to him which pseudonym he releases under. A proper Aphex Twin album on Rephlex would amazing That was really enlightening! Now I hate Warner Bros. more than I ever have, and I am excited that he should be able to release as Aphex once more soon. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/67916-the-worst-artist-or-record-label-decisions-ever-made/page/3/#findComment-1631889 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eh Speedy Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 Actually i think it's funny how they put him in check. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide eh Speedy's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/67916-the-worst-artist-or-record-label-decisions-ever-made/page/3/#findComment-1631992 Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 (edited) On 8/5/2011 at 11:44 PM, ganus said: On 8/5/2011 at 8:05 PM, Awepittance said: Richard D James not releasing an Aphex Twin full length in 10 years Quote I was supposed to give them two or three more albums – I can’t remember. Before I gave them this album I said to them: „If I give you another album I have to be not be signed to another label.“ (laughs). I thought they were just going to go: „No way! We’re going to sue you.“ Quote I hadn’t give them a record for like three years. And I said to them: „Alright I’ll give you like a double album but you have let me do my own label afterwards.“ And they just said „Yes“! I tried to do it with Warner Brothers (Aphex Twins record com- pany in the US and Japan) as well but they are more hard to convince. I said like: „I want to do2 Aphex Twin on Rephlex“. And they were just going like: „No way, we’ve bought you, we own you.“ It was going back and forth. I was going: „If you don’t say yes, you will never get anything.“ And then they were like: „Well ok, then we won’t get anything.“ I’m allowed to use AFX on Rephlex so I’ll just have to go back to that. Quote Is the name Aphex Twin important to you?It is really. I mean I could just use other names but I wanted to do Aphex Twin and then just do like very experimental stuff. There are lots of people who are going to buy my (Aphex Twin) album who are not really into my stuff at all, I reckon. And I’m quite into the idea of them buying something very experimental. this interview is from 2001, seems like he's saying simultaneously that he doesnt want to release something rushed or archived as Aphex Twin, instead he wants to be experimental but the dilemma is the aphex twin name is owned by a major record label that probably wouldnt release something unless they approved of it. Yes i understand that analord and The Tuss are technically RDJ, but even here he admits the name Aphex Twin is important to him, which contradicts his earlier statements that it makes no difference to him which pseudonym he releases under. A proper Aphex Twin album on Rephlex would amazing That was really enlightening! Now I hate Warner Bros. more than I ever have, and I am excited that he should be able to release as Aphex once more soon. then he should flip the script and release some meltphace wank as aphex twin and release the next aphex twin album as afx. if he hands an aphex twin album to them, they will release it, no doubt in my mind. Edited August 6, 2011 by jules Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide jules's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/67916-the-worst-artist-or-record-label-decisions-ever-made/page/3/#findComment-1632023 Share on other sites More sharing options...
eh Speedy Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 They should release endless greatest hits records over and over again w/ the same tracks on them. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide eh Speedy's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/67916-the-worst-artist-or-record-label-decisions-ever-made/page/3/#findComment-1632040 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mellow U Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 On 8/4/2011 at 2:46 PM, o00o said: Perlence subrange 6-36 could be the bonus CD in the binder This, sir, is a fantastic idea. Warp - read this and take note! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Mellow U's signature Hide all signatures On 12/3/2011 at 11:42 PM, 'Enter a new display name' said: inb4 Mellow U complaining Milieu Music Listening-techno, bedroom ambient and organic electronic music for the discerning consumer. Recycled Plastics : Bedroom music for electric adults! Psøma Psi Phi : 000BPM sleep fictions for intimate applications. >>> THE STONE IN FOCUS SUBFORUM IS HERE <<< Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/67916-the-worst-artist-or-record-label-decisions-ever-made/page/3/#findComment-1632118 Share on other sites More sharing options...
o00o Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 On 8/5/2011 at 8:05 PM, Awepittance said: Richard D James not releasing an Aphex Twin full length in 10 years Quote I was supposed to give them two or three more albums – I can’t remember. Before I gave them this album I said to them: „If I give you another album I have to be not be signed to another label.“ (laughs). I thought they were just going to go: „No way! We’re going to sue you.“ Quote I hadn’t give them a record for like three years. And I said to them: „Alright I’ll give you like a double album but you have let me do my own label afterwards.“ And they just said „Yes“! I tried to do it with Warner Brothers (Aphex Twins record com- pany in the US and Japan) as well but they are more hard to convince. I said like: „I want to do2 Aphex Twin on Rephlex“. And they were just going like: „No way, we’ve bought you, we own you.“ It was going back and forth. I was going: „If you don’t say yes, you will never get anything.“ And then they were like: „Well ok, then we won’t get anything.“ I’m allowed to use AFX on Rephlex so I’ll just have to go back to that. Quote Is the name Aphex Twin important to you?It is really. I mean I could just use other names but I wanted to do Aphex Twin and then just do like very experimental stuff. There are lots of people who are going to buy my (Aphex Twin) album who are not really into my stuff at all, I reckon. And I’m quite into the idea of them buying something very experimental. this interview is from 2001, seems like he's saying simultaneously that he doesnt want to release something rushed or archived as Aphex Twin, instead he wants to be experimental but the dilemma is the aphex twin name is owned by a major record label that probably wouldnt release something unless they approved of it. Yes i understand that analord and The Tuss are technically RDJ, but even here he admits the name Aphex Twin is important to him, which contradicts his earlier statements that it makes no difference to him which pseudonym he releases under. A proper Aphex Twin album on Rephlex would amazing At the same time he still sneaks the best tracks out as aphex twin (analord 10) putting even more value into it. I am sure he knows its value as gateway for the mainstream / first contact listener into his back cataloge. The major deal is one of his most precious achivements that seperates him from the mortal idm musician besides being on warp in terms of exposure Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide o00o's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/67916-the-worst-artist-or-record-label-decisions-ever-made/page/3/#findComment-1632154 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 On 8/4/2011 at 1:32 PM, Enter a new display name said: I'm impressed nobody mentioned Planet µ's juke direction. that horse has already been beaten, buried, and fossilized. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/67916-the-worst-artist-or-record-label-decisions-ever-made/page/3/#findComment-1632155 Share on other sites More sharing options...
soundwave Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 On 8/6/2011 at 12:42 PM, o00o said: On 8/5/2011 at 8:05 PM, Awepittance said: Richard D James not releasing an Aphex Twin full length in 10 years Quote I was supposed to give them two or three more albums – I can’t remember. Before I gave them this album I said to them: „If I give you another album I have to be not be signed to another label.“ (laughs). I thought they were just going to go: „No way! We’re going to sue you.“ Quote I hadn’t give them a record for like three years. And I said to them: „Alright I’ll give you like a double album but you have let me do my own label afterwards.“ And they just said „Yes“! I tried to do it with Warner Brothers (Aphex Twins record com- pany in the US and Japan) as well but they are more hard to convince. I said like: „I want to do2 Aphex Twin on Rephlex“. And they were just going like: „No way, we’ve bought you, we own you.“ It was going back and forth. I was going: „If you don’t say yes, you will never get anything.“ And then they were like: „Well ok, then we won’t get anything.“ I’m allowed to use AFX on Rephlex so I’ll just have to go back to that. Quote Is the name Aphex Twin important to you?It is really. I mean I could just use other names but I wanted to do Aphex Twin and then just do like very experimental stuff. There are lots of people who are going to buy my (Aphex Twin) album who are not really into my stuff at all, I reckon. And I’m quite into the idea of them buying something very experimental. this interview is from 2001, seems like he's saying simultaneously that he doesnt want to release something rushed or archived as Aphex Twin, instead he wants to be experimental but the dilemma is the aphex twin name is owned by a major record label that probably wouldnt release something unless they approved of it. Yes i understand that analord and The Tuss are technically RDJ, but even here he admits the name Aphex Twin is important to him, which contradicts his earlier statements that it makes no difference to him which pseudonym he releases under. A proper Aphex Twin album on Rephlex would amazing At the same time he still sneaks the best tracks out as aphex twin (analord 10) putting even more value into it. I am sure he knows its value as gateway for the mainstream / first contact listener into his back cataloge. The major deal is one of his most precious achivements that seperates him from the mortal idm musician besides being on warp in terms of exposure schizophrenia or cunning business sense, answers on a postcard? whilst were here what was that story about Mr RDJ fucking off with some advance he got for making an album on the back of Windowlicker? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/67916-the-worst-artist-or-record-label-decisions-ever-made/page/3/#findComment-1632193 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hahathhat Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 On 8/6/2011 at 2:41 PM, soundwave said: schizophrenia or cunning business sense i smell a successful poll in the aphex twin subforum. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/67916-the-worst-artist-or-record-label-decisions-ever-made/page/3/#findComment-1632197 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redruth Posted August 8, 2011 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 mille plateaux issues, flying lotus lack of continuity since 'los angeles', jacaszek before 'treny' + surgeon's artworks for 'breaking the frame lp' . Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/67916-the-worst-artist-or-record-label-decisions-ever-made/page/3/#findComment-1633135 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cazador Mod Unit Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 the surgeon looks like a split collab with carcass circa 1988 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Cazador Mod Unit's signature Hide all signatures no youtube videos in the signature, lolz much love, squee Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/67916-the-worst-artist-or-record-label-decisions-ever-made/page/3/#findComment-1633142 Share on other sites More sharing options...
o00o Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 I am currently unsure if I should like or hate ghostlys way of shitting out binders on a daily basis. most of them look a bit rushed and I wonder if the music they contain can hold up to the glamorous packing Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide o00o's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/67916-the-worst-artist-or-record-label-decisions-ever-made/page/3/#findComment-1633153 Share on other sites More sharing options...
patternoverlap Posted August 8, 2011 Report Share Posted August 8, 2011 shitting out binders? I think Ghostly has gone up in quality overall in the past few years. Pale Sketcher, Shigeto, Gold Panda, Mux Mool, Com Truise, The Sight Below, SMM: Context, all solid releases with (imo) really nice artwork. I like Michael Cina. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide patternoverlap's signature Hide all signatures New Prints Available Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/67916-the-worst-artist-or-record-label-decisions-ever-made/page/3/#findComment-1633170 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghOsty Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 On 8/4/2011 at 2:43 PM, ThatSpanishGuy said: Autechre: A hundred mixes for cash Release this and take my money I'd pay for a collection of Autechre remixes Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ghOsty's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/67916-the-worst-artist-or-record-label-decisions-ever-made/page/3/#findComment-1634645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
patternoverlap Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 On 8/10/2011 at 7:11 AM, ghOsty said: On 8/4/2011 at 2:43 PM, ThatSpanishGuy said: Autechre: A hundred mixes for cash Release this and take my money I'd pay for a collection of Autechre remixes +1 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide patternoverlap's signature Hide all signatures New Prints Available Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/67916-the-worst-artist-or-record-label-decisions-ever-made/page/3/#findComment-1634916 Share on other sites More sharing options...
beerwolf Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 On 8/10/2011 at 7:06 PM, patternoverlap said: On 8/10/2011 at 7:11 AM, ghOsty said: On 8/4/2011 at 2:43 PM, ThatSpanishGuy said: Autechre: A hundred mixes for cash Release this and take my money I'd pay for a collection of Autechre remixes +1 + many thousand Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/67916-the-worst-artist-or-record-label-decisions-ever-made/page/3/#findComment-1634973 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KY Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 i'm upset at myself for giving as much attention to anticon and mush records as i did—the whole lo-fi white angst avant garde folk-hop was a big mistake as far as my music-listening tendencies go. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/67916-the-worst-artist-or-record-label-decisions-ever-made/page/3/#findComment-1634985 Share on other sites More sharing options...
azatoth Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 The Clouddead s/t is still an excellent album. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide azatoth's signature Hide all signatures last.fm the biggest illusion is yourself Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/67916-the-worst-artist-or-record-label-decisions-ever-made/page/3/#findComment-1634991 Share on other sites More sharing options...
o00o Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 venetian Snares not doing another Winter In The Belly Of A Snake with real instruments Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide o00o's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/67916-the-worst-artist-or-record-label-decisions-ever-made/page/3/#findComment-1634993 Share on other sites More sharing options...
azatoth Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 BoC not showing any sign of life and making fanboys insane in the process. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide azatoth's signature Hide all signatures last.fm the biggest illusion is yourself Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/67916-the-worst-artist-or-record-label-decisions-ever-made/page/3/#findComment-1634995 Share on other sites More sharing options...
o00o Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 On 8/10/2011 at 8:52 PM, azatoth said: BoC not showing any sign of life and making fanboys insane in the process. lol I was about to type this but then I stopped and went snares instead. Its weird as if they where suffering some kind of perfectionism loophole or something. since the news of the burnt down facility emerged yesterday I lost all hopes for any warp release in the near future to be honest Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide o00o's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/67916-the-worst-artist-or-record-label-decisions-ever-made/page/3/#findComment-1635031 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KY Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 rye rye not releasing an album/uffie and kid sister releasing an album (after the peak of their popularity, to boot) weezer not breaking up after pinkerton lil b and jay electronica not coming out with legit full-length debuts yet james ferraro not releasing any of his trademark long-form hypnogogic drone this year (excluding the frkwys collab) kreayshawn in general v/vm kind of just disappearing dam funk not releasing any full-band music yet eric copeland's most recent (and imo most accomplished) release coming out on a domestically-near-unreachable label from europe blank dogs oversaturating the music scene with his too-numerous, too-one-note releases ok go discovering youtube instead of unemployment checks joe meek killing himself and his cleaning lady, wtf dude j dilla getting lupus justice releasing a second album (it just doesn't feel...right. maybe it's the whole collapse of the french touch trend) and where is the fucking john carpenter movie soundtrack boxset on vinyl? seriously, people would buy that shit. i'm looking at you, random record label. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/67916-the-worst-artist-or-record-label-decisions-ever-made/page/3/#findComment-1635050 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghOsty Posted August 10, 2011 Report Share Posted August 10, 2011 (edited) Liam Howlett of The Prodigy refusing to let go of the 90's big beat sound and try something new... Always Outnumbered never Outgunned had some good ones but ultimately flopped, Invaders Must Die sucked Edited August 10, 2011 by ghOsty Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide ghOsty's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/67916-the-worst-artist-or-record-label-decisions-ever-made/page/3/#findComment-1635061 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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