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  On 3/11/2012 at 9:04 PM, StephenG said:

 

That's almost identical to what I wrote about 20 pages ago lol. It seems fairly cut and dry obvious... =P

 

I like how you only have 4 posts and you've gone into that detailed exposition. Where did you come from?! =)

 

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Finally got this through the post the other day.

 

Nice stuff - maelstrom especially. As to who made it, it does seema bit far-fetched that some unknown producer would have production/programming chops that advanced, and would then use them to make tracks that sound in places exactly like go plastic-era squarepusher.

 

If it is SP, fair play, always good to have some new stuff. If not, the dude seriously needs to try to make some stuff that doesn't sound so indentical to an existing producer - there's being influenced and then there's flat out ripping-off.

If you want to hear what ‘sampling and re-cutting Squarepusher’ sounds like you can go listen to Twisting Ligneous by Vsnares. Spoiler: it sounds like someone cutting up Squarepusher, not like Squarepusher.

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  On 3/11/2012 at 11:35 PM, danshoebridge said:

Finally got this through the post the other day.

 

Nice stuff - maelstrom especially. As to who made it, it does seema bit far-fetched that some unknown producer would have production/programming chops that advanced, and would then use them to make tracks that sound in places exactly like go plastic-era squarepusher.

 

If it is SP, fair play, always good to have some new stuff. If not, the dude seriously needs to try to make some stuff that doesn't sound so indentical to an existing producer - there's being influenced and then there's flat out ripping-off.

 

Except Cyx x-1 sounds like no one else.

Edited by rotchnock
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  On 3/11/2012 at 8:42 PM, RDX said:
  On 3/11/2012 at 5:07 PM, StephenG said:
  On 3/11/2012 at 5:55 AM, RDX said:
  On 2/10/2012 at 1:57 AM, LIFE RIDES YOUR BONES said:

ugh I had to go back and listen to all of go plastic to be sure that the 2nd sample wasn't just straight up squarepusher. even still i swear i've heard the part about 3/4 the way through as background music on some television interview with tom or perhaps in a live recording.

 

Ooh, gotta listen closer. You mean the alarm sound and the guy saying something like "Fresha"? Because if that's what you're talking about, they are sampled on Go Plastic. The alarm is sampled in My Red Hot Car, and the guy saying "Fresha" is the beginning of the first vocal sample in Go! Spastic. Both samples are originally from the intro to Wheel N' Deal by DJ Gunshot (old school jungle), or from whatever old dub track he originally got them from. Compare the first 13 seconds of Wheel N' Deal by DJ Gunshot (specifically 0:03 and 0:11) with 1:55 in My Red Hot Car, 0:38 in Go! Spastic, 0:58 in Ontrackv2 Sample (AKA Maelstrom on the old Myspace) and 1:10 in Ontrackv2 Sample (this one is blink and you'll miss it).

 

I tried this angle to convince some watmmers a long time ago that steinvord is Tom but got nothing but pushback, especially from Pissflaps (where is he anyway....?)

 

The points I made aren't good enough alone to be convincing evidence, IMO, because the Steinvord samples are taken from Wheel N' Deal and not the Squarepusher tracks (if you compare the "Fresha" part of the sample in all three tracks, the Steinvord sample is from the original, not Go! Spastic; in Go! Spastic it's so mangled that you can't even tell it's the same audio unless you know what you're listening to ahead of time), and because that's a well-known enough sample that any huge jungle fan could know it and sample it (it pops up here and there, for example it's sampled in its entirety in a Dabrye track).

 

IMO, the biggest reason to think that Maelstrom is a Squarepusher track is because give me a break that's obviously Squarepusher. It honestly seems like people aren't using they're heads on this. Has anyone in ever heard anything anywhere near that close to absolutely unique sound of the second half of Bonneville Occident / Go! Spastic / The Exploding Psychology / Greenways Trajectory / My Fucking Sound? Of course not. How many guys on the planet even have the knowhow and the chops to make a track like Maelstrom? Less than 100? Are any of those 100 guys going to waste their time sitting around painstakingly making a Squarepusher soundalike that's that convincing? No.

 

And let's suppose someone did. Like, somebody brought up Clifford Gilberto earlier in this thread: Ok, let's put aside the fact that Feed Me Weird Things and Go Plastic aren't even remotely comparable in terms of how hard to emulate they are, and that Deliver The Weird is an enormously easier track to make than Maelstrom. Supose some enterprising 18 year old spanish kid (lols) could and did sit down and do Clifford Gilberto Goes Plastic. Well, ok. Is that going to impress Grant and Rich back at the ranch, whose mantra is "Make it your music"? Ask yourself this: Would "I Was Young and Needed the Money" ever have seen a Rephlex release in a million billion years? Of course not. Cliford Gilberto admits right in the title that he's a biter.

 

"Ah, but this just isn't lush like Squarepusher! It's obviously not Tom; my super special IDM feelers can just tell." Well, duh. So it's a Go Plastic B-side that didn't make the cut originally seeing the light of day now for funzies. Mystery Solved.

 

Every time a new Rephlex guy pops up, there's either going to be A) a tangible, flesh and blood person tied to the act (Wisp), or B) there are some off-brand shenanegans going on for giggles (Tuss). Why? Because any sane person who isn't already Richard D. James or Tom Jenkinson is going to care about promotion, career, making a living from their music, etc.

 

Come on people. Steinvord is some combination of Tom Jenkinson and/or Richard D. James and its obvious.

 

great post, but again, tracks like backyard or cyg x-1 don't fit on TJ or RDJ style, not the same vibe period. iyff acid is total AFX acid awesomeness tho... but i feel some of the parts have steady "dnb" rythm to it, like on iyff acid, before it goes crazy, there's like a sort of dnb sounding sequence.. whatever. good stuff, I dont stress about this. I gotta admit tho, this:

  Quote

Why? Because any sane person who isn't already Richard D. James or Tom Jenkinson is going to care about promotion, career, making a living from their music, etc.

is kinda weird. Anyone would be all over the place if u got signed to Rephlex, specially being a young kid, but this guy is simply invisible, he has no presence anywhere. So he's either someone already stablished releasing under another alias or he takes not giving a shit to the next level.

  On 3/12/2012 at 1:10 AM, rotchnock said:
  On 3/11/2012 at 8:42 PM, RDX said:
  On 3/11/2012 at 5:07 PM, StephenG said:
  On 3/11/2012 at 5:55 AM, RDX said:
  On 2/10/2012 at 1:57 AM, LIFE RIDES YOUR BONES said:

ugh I had to go back and listen to all of go plastic to be sure that the 2nd sample wasn't just straight up squarepusher. even still i swear i've heard the part about 3/4 the way through as background music on some television interview with tom or perhaps in a live recording.

 

Ooh, gotta listen closer. You mean the alarm sound and the guy saying something like "Fresha"? Because if that's what you're talking about, they are sampled on Go Plastic. The alarm is sampled in My Red Hot Car, and the guy saying "Fresha" is the beginning of the first vocal sample in Go! Spastic. Both samples are originally from the intro to Wheel N' Deal by DJ Gunshot (old school jungle), or from whatever old dub track he originally got them from. Compare the first 13 seconds of Wheel N' Deal by DJ Gunshot (specifically 0:03 and 0:11) with 1:55 in My Red Hot Car, 0:38 in Go! Spastic, 0:58 in Ontrackv2 Sample (AKA Maelstrom on the old Myspace) and 1:10 in Ontrackv2 Sample (this one is blink and you'll miss it).

 

I tried this angle to convince some watmmers a long time ago that steinvord is Tom but got nothing but pushback, especially from Pissflaps (where is he anyway....?)

 

The points I made aren't good enough alone to be convincing evidence, IMO, because the Steinvord samples are taken from Wheel N' Deal and not the Squarepusher tracks (if you compare the "Fresha" part of the sample in all three tracks, the Steinvord sample is from the original, not Go! Spastic; in Go! Spastic it's so mangled that you can't even tell it's the same audio unless you know what you're listening to ahead of time), and because that's a well-known enough sample that any huge jungle fan could know it and sample it (it pops up here and there, for example it's sampled in its entirety in a Dabrye track).

 

IMO, the biggest reason to think that Maelstrom is a Squarepusher track is because give me a break that's obviously Squarepusher. It honestly seems like people aren't using they're heads on this. Has anyone in ever heard anything anywhere near that close to absolutely unique sound of the second half of Bonneville Occident / Go! Spastic / The Exploding Psychology / Greenways Trajectory / My Fucking Sound? Of course not. How many guys on the planet even have the knowhow and the chops to make a track like Maelstrom? Less than 100? Are any of those 100 guys going to waste their time sitting around painstakingly making a Squarepusher soundalike that's that convincing? No.

 

And let's suppose someone did. Like, somebody brought up Clifford Gilberto earlier in this thread: Ok, let's put aside the fact that Feed Me Weird Things and Go Plastic aren't even remotely comparable in terms of how hard to emulate they are, and that Deliver The Weird is an enormously easier track to make than Maelstrom. Supose some enterprising 18 year old spanish kid (lols) could and did sit down and do Clifford Gilberto Goes Plastic. Well, ok. Is that going to impress Grant and Rich back at the ranch, whose mantra is "Make it your music"? Ask yourself this: Would "I Was Young and Needed the Money" ever have seen a Rephlex release in a million billion years? Of course not. Cliford Gilberto admits right in the title that he's a biter.

 

"Ah, but this just isn't lush like Squarepusher! It's obviously not Tom; my super special IDM feelers can just tell." Well, duh. So it's a Go Plastic B-side that didn't make the cut originally seeing the light of day now for funzies. Mystery Solved.

 

Every time a new Rephlex guy pops up, there's either going to be A) a tangible, flesh and blood person tied to the act (Wisp), or B) there are some off-brand shenanegans going on for giggles (Tuss). Why? Because any sane person who isn't already Richard D. James or Tom Jenkinson is going to care about promotion, career, making a living from their music, etc.

 

Come on people. Steinvord is some combination of Tom Jenkinson and/or Richard D. James and its obvious.

 

great post, but again, tracks like backyard or cyg x-1 don't fit on TJ or RDJ style, not the same vibe period. iyff acid is total AFX acid awesomeness tho... but i feel some of the parts have steady "dnb" rythm to it, like on iyff acid, before it goes crazy, there's like a sort of dnb sounding sequence.. whatever. good stuff, I dont stress about this. I gotta admit tho, this:

  Quote

Why? Because any sane person who isn't already Richard D. James or Tom Jenkinson is going to care about promotion, career, making a living from their music, etc.

is kinda weird. Anyone would be all over the place if u got signed to Rephlex, specially being a young kid, but this guy is simply invisible, he has no presence anywhere. So he's either someone already stablished releasing under another alias or he takes not giving a shit to the next level.

 

 

cyg x-1 is almost identical in form to significant others by squarepusher. Same ultra high speed complex drums, although the particular drum kit used for cyg x-1 sounds exactly like "my red hot car".

 

  On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said:

Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. 

  On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said:

don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV

I do agree RE backyard though.

 

  On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said:

Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. 

  On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said:

don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV

Guest rotchnock
  On 3/12/2012 at 1:12 AM, StephenG said:
  On 3/12/2012 at 1:10 AM, rotchnock said:
  On 3/11/2012 at 8:42 PM, RDX said:
  On 3/11/2012 at 5:07 PM, StephenG said:
  On 3/11/2012 at 5:55 AM, RDX said:
  On 2/10/2012 at 1:57 AM, LIFE RIDES YOUR BONES said:

ugh I had to go back and listen to all of go plastic to be sure that the 2nd sample wasn't just straight up squarepusher. even still i swear i've heard the part about 3/4 the way through as background music on some television interview with tom or perhaps in a live recording.

 

Ooh, gotta listen closer. You mean the alarm sound and the guy saying something like "Fresha"? Because if that's what you're talking about, they are sampled on Go Plastic. The alarm is sampled in My Red Hot Car, and the guy saying "Fresha" is the beginning of the first vocal sample in Go! Spastic. Both samples are originally from the intro to Wheel N' Deal by DJ Gunshot (old school jungle), or from whatever old dub track he originally got them from. Compare the first 13 seconds of Wheel N' Deal by DJ Gunshot (specifically 0:03 and 0:11) with 1:55 in My Red Hot Car, 0:38 in Go! Spastic, 0:58 in Ontrackv2 Sample (AKA Maelstrom on the old Myspace) and 1:10 in Ontrackv2 Sample (this one is blink and you'll miss it).

 

I tried this angle to convince some watmmers a long time ago that steinvord is Tom but got nothing but pushback, especially from Pissflaps (where is he anyway....?)

 

The points I made aren't good enough alone to be convincing evidence, IMO, because the Steinvord samples are taken from Wheel N' Deal and not the Squarepusher tracks (if you compare the "Fresha" part of the sample in all three tracks, the Steinvord sample is from the original, not Go! Spastic; in Go! Spastic it's so mangled that you can't even tell it's the same audio unless you know what you're listening to ahead of time), and because that's a well-known enough sample that any huge jungle fan could know it and sample it (it pops up here and there, for example it's sampled in its entirety in a Dabrye track).

 

IMO, the biggest reason to think that Maelstrom is a Squarepusher track is because give me a break that's obviously Squarepusher. It honestly seems like people aren't using they're heads on this. Has anyone in ever heard anything anywhere near that close to absolutely unique sound of the second half of Bonneville Occident / Go! Spastic / The Exploding Psychology / Greenways Trajectory / My Fucking Sound? Of course not. How many guys on the planet even have the knowhow and the chops to make a track like Maelstrom? Less than 100? Are any of those 100 guys going to waste their time sitting around painstakingly making a Squarepusher soundalike that's that convincing? No.

 

And let's suppose someone did. Like, somebody brought up Clifford Gilberto earlier in this thread: Ok, let's put aside the fact that Feed Me Weird Things and Go Plastic aren't even remotely comparable in terms of how hard to emulate they are, and that Deliver The Weird is an enormously easier track to make than Maelstrom. Supose some enterprising 18 year old spanish kid (lols) could and did sit down and do Clifford Gilberto Goes Plastic. Well, ok. Is that going to impress Grant and Rich back at the ranch, whose mantra is "Make it your music"? Ask yourself this: Would "I Was Young and Needed the Money" ever have seen a Rephlex release in a million billion years? Of course not. Cliford Gilberto admits right in the title that he's a biter.

 

"Ah, but this just isn't lush like Squarepusher! It's obviously not Tom; my super special IDM feelers can just tell." Well, duh. So it's a Go Plastic B-side that didn't make the cut originally seeing the light of day now for funzies. Mystery Solved.

 

Every time a new Rephlex guy pops up, there's either going to be A) a tangible, flesh and blood person tied to the act (Wisp), or B) there are some off-brand shenanegans going on for giggles (Tuss). Why? Because any sane person who isn't already Richard D. James or Tom Jenkinson is going to care about promotion, career, making a living from their music, etc.

 

Come on people. Steinvord is some combination of Tom Jenkinson and/or Richard D. James and its obvious.

 

great post, but again, tracks like backyard or cyg x-1 don't fit on TJ or RDJ style, not the same vibe period. iyff acid is total AFX acid awesomeness tho... but i feel some of the parts have steady "dnb" rythm to it, like on iyff acid, before it goes crazy, there's like a sort of dnb sounding sequence.. whatever. good stuff, I dont stress about this. I gotta admit tho, this:

  Quote

Why? Because any sane person who isn't already Richard D. James or Tom Jenkinson is going to care about promotion, career, making a living from their music, etc.

is kinda weird. Anyone would be all over the place if u got signed to Rephlex, specially being a young kid, but this guy is simply invisible, he has no presence anywhere. So he's either someone already stablished releasing under another alias or he takes not giving a shit to the next level.

 

 

cyg x-1 is almost identical in form to significant others by squarepusher. Same ultra high speed complex drums, although the particular drum kit used for cyg x-1 sounds exactly like "my red hot car".

 

Uhh.. do you have ears?

Sorry

  On 3/12/2012 at 2:26 PM, rotchnock said:
  On 3/12/2012 at 1:12 AM, StephenG said:
  On 3/12/2012 at 1:10 AM, rotchnock said:
  On 3/11/2012 at 8:42 PM, RDX said:
  On 3/11/2012 at 5:07 PM, StephenG said:
  On 3/11/2012 at 5:55 AM, RDX said:
  On 2/10/2012 at 1:57 AM, LIFE RIDES YOUR BONES said:

ugh I had to go back and listen to all of go plastic to be sure that the 2nd sample wasn't just straight up squarepusher. even still i swear i've heard the part about 3/4 the way through as background music on some television interview with tom or perhaps in a live recording.

 

Ooh, gotta listen closer. You mean the alarm sound and the guy saying something like "Fresha"? Because if that's what you're talking about, they are sampled on Go Plastic. The alarm is sampled in My Red Hot Car, and the guy saying "Fresha" is the beginning of the first vocal sample in Go! Spastic. Both samples are originally from the intro to Wheel N' Deal by DJ Gunshot (old school jungle), or from whatever old dub track he originally got them from. Compare the first 13 seconds of Wheel N' Deal by DJ Gunshot (specifically 0:03 and 0:11) with 1:55 in My Red Hot Car, 0:38 in Go! Spastic, 0:58 in Ontrackv2 Sample (AKA Maelstrom on the old Myspace) and 1:10 in Ontrackv2 Sample (this one is blink and you'll miss it).

 

I tried this angle to convince some watmmers a long time ago that steinvord is Tom but got nothing but pushback, especially from Pissflaps (where is he anyway....?)

 

The points I made aren't good enough alone to be convincing evidence, IMO, because the Steinvord samples are taken from Wheel N' Deal and not the Squarepusher tracks (if you compare the "Fresha" part of the sample in all three tracks, the Steinvord sample is from the original, not Go! Spastic; in Go! Spastic it's so mangled that you can't even tell it's the same audio unless you know what you're listening to ahead of time), and because that's a well-known enough sample that any huge jungle fan could know it and sample it (it pops up here and there, for example it's sampled in its entirety in a Dabrye track).

 

IMO, the biggest reason to think that Maelstrom is a Squarepusher track is because give me a break that's obviously Squarepusher. It honestly seems like people aren't using they're heads on this. Has anyone in ever heard anything anywhere near that close to absolutely unique sound of the second half of Bonneville Occident / Go! Spastic / The Exploding Psychology / Greenways Trajectory / My Fucking Sound? Of course not. How many guys on the planet even have the knowhow and the chops to make a track like Maelstrom? Less than 100? Are any of those 100 guys going to waste their time sitting around painstakingly making a Squarepusher soundalike that's that convincing? No.

 

And let's suppose someone did. Like, somebody brought up Clifford Gilberto earlier in this thread: Ok, let's put aside the fact that Feed Me Weird Things and Go Plastic aren't even remotely comparable in terms of how hard to emulate they are, and that Deliver The Weird is an enormously easier track to make than Maelstrom. Supose some enterprising 18 year old spanish kid (lols) could and did sit down and do Clifford Gilberto Goes Plastic. Well, ok. Is that going to impress Grant and Rich back at the ranch, whose mantra is "Make it your music"? Ask yourself this: Would "I Was Young and Needed the Money" ever have seen a Rephlex release in a million billion years? Of course not. Cliford Gilberto admits right in the title that he's a biter.

 

"Ah, but this just isn't lush like Squarepusher! It's obviously not Tom; my super special IDM feelers can just tell." Well, duh. So it's a Go Plastic B-side that didn't make the cut originally seeing the light of day now for funzies. Mystery Solved.

 

Every time a new Rephlex guy pops up, there's either going to be A) a tangible, flesh and blood person tied to the act (Wisp), or B) there are some off-brand shenanegans going on for giggles (Tuss). Why? Because any sane person who isn't already Richard D. James or Tom Jenkinson is going to care about promotion, career, making a living from their music, etc.

 

Come on people. Steinvord is some combination of Tom Jenkinson and/or Richard D. James and its obvious.

 

great post, but again, tracks like backyard or cyg x-1 don't fit on TJ or RDJ style, not the same vibe period. iyff acid is total AFX acid awesomeness tho... but i feel some of the parts have steady "dnb" rythm to it, like on iyff acid, before it goes crazy, there's like a sort of dnb sounding sequence.. whatever. good stuff, I dont stress about this. I gotta admit tho, this:

  Quote

Why? Because any sane person who isn't already Richard D. James or Tom Jenkinson is going to care about promotion, career, making a living from their music, etc.

is kinda weird. Anyone would be all over the place if u got signed to Rephlex, specially being a young kid, but this guy is simply invisible, he has no presence anywhere. So he's either someone already stablished releasing under another alias or he takes not giving a shit to the next level.

 

 

cyg x-1 is almost identical in form to significant others by squarepusher. Same ultra high speed complex drums, although the particular drum kit used for cyg x-1 sounds exactly like "my red hot car".

 

Uhh.. do you have ears?

Sorry

 

Yeah I have ears. Do you?

 

Note the bolded word form. It has a similar buildup and same style of ultra fast, complex drums.

 

Do you have a brain?

 

And aren't you pissflaps? Thought duping was against the rules.

 

  On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said:

Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. 

  On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said:

don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV

If you can't hear that cyg x-1 sounds like the bastard child of My Red Hot Car and Significant Others, I'm sorry about your disability.

Edited by StephenG

 

  On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said:

Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. 

  On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said:

don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV

Right enough of this fucking wank bullshit! Nose to the wind and fucking big ears to the wind. Sometimes we are all wrong, it's no fucking big deal.

 

You have to post who you think this is (not that I actually give a shit)

 

I Mr Beerwolf put my hand on the bible and do solemly swear to say the whole truth and nothing but the truth and I say I think it is a mainly Squarepusher. There could be a bit of drunken sunday afternoon help from Aphex but on the whole it's Squarepusher. I don't think it's meant to be a big statement its just a cool fucking ep they decided to release.

 

It seems to me some of you more bothered about who made it, instead of listenening to the music. Put your fucking money were your mouth is.

Edited by beerwolf
  On 3/12/2012 at 5:20 PM, beerwolf said:

Right enough of this fucking wank bullshit! Nose to the wind and fucking big ears to the wind. Sometimes we are all wrong, it's no fucking big deal.

 

You have to post who you think this is (not that I actually give a shit)

 

I Mr Beerwolf put my hand on the bible and do solemly swear to say the whole truth and nothing but the truth and I say I think it is a mainly Squarepusher. There could be a bit of drunken sunday afternoon help from Aphex but on the whole it's Squarepusher. I don't think it's meant to be a big statement its just a cool fucking ep they decided to release.

 

It seems to me some of you more bothered about who made it, instead of listenening to the music. Put your fucking money were your mouth is.

 

I put my money where my mouth is. That's why I have gold teeth. =)

 

 

All things aside, I'm enjoying the ep it's awesome.

 

  On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said:

Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. 

  On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said:

don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV

  On 3/12/2012 at 9:53 PM, THIS IS MICHAEL JACKSON said:

style = ultra fast, complex drums

 

 

LOL

 

well! I didn't know how else to describe it.

 

  On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said:

Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. 

  On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said:

don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV

  On 3/12/2012 at 4:47 PM, StephenG said:
  On 3/12/2012 at 2:26 PM, rotchnock said:
  On 3/12/2012 at 1:12 AM, StephenG said:
  On 3/12/2012 at 1:10 AM, rotchnock said:
  On 3/11/2012 at 8:42 PM, RDX said:
  On 3/11/2012 at 5:07 PM, StephenG said:
  On 3/11/2012 at 5:55 AM, RDX said:
  On 2/10/2012 at 1:57 AM, LIFE RIDES YOUR BONES said:

ugh I had to go back and listen to all of go plastic to be sure that the 2nd sample wasn't just straight up squarepusher. even still i swear i've heard the part about 3/4 the way through as background music on some television interview with tom or perhaps in a live recording.

 

Ooh, gotta listen closer. You mean the alarm sound and the guy saying something like "Fresha"? Because if that's what you're talking about, they are sampled on Go Plastic. The alarm is sampled in My Red Hot Car, and the guy saying "Fresha" is the beginning of the first vocal sample in Go! Spastic. Both samples are originally from the intro to Wheel N' Deal by DJ Gunshot (old school jungle), or from whatever old dub track he originally got them from. Compare the first 13 seconds of Wheel N' Deal by DJ Gunshot (specifically 0:03 and 0:11) with 1:55 in My Red Hot Car, 0:38 in Go! Spastic, 0:58 in Ontrackv2 Sample (AKA Maelstrom on the old Myspace) and 1:10 in Ontrackv2 Sample (this one is blink and you'll miss it).

 

I tried this angle to convince some watmmers a long time ago that steinvord is Tom but got nothing but pushback, especially from Pissflaps (where is he anyway....?)

 

The points I made aren't good enough alone to be convincing evidence, IMO, because the Steinvord samples are taken from Wheel N' Deal and not the Squarepusher tracks (if you compare the "Fresha" part of the sample in all three tracks, the Steinvord sample is from the original, not Go! Spastic; in Go! Spastic it's so mangled that you can't even tell it's the same audio unless you know what you're listening to ahead of time), and because that's a well-known enough sample that any huge jungle fan could know it and sample it (it pops up here and there, for example it's sampled in its entirety in a Dabrye track).

 

IMO, the biggest reason to think that Maelstrom is a Squarepusher track is because give me a break that's obviously Squarepusher. It honestly seems like people aren't using they're heads on this. Has anyone in ever heard anything anywhere near that close to absolutely unique sound of the second half of Bonneville Occident / Go! Spastic / The Exploding Psychology / Greenways Trajectory / My Fucking Sound? Of course not. How many guys on the planet even have the knowhow and the chops to make a track like Maelstrom? Less than 100? Are any of those 100 guys going to waste their time sitting around painstakingly making a Squarepusher soundalike that's that convincing? No.

 

And let's suppose someone did. Like, somebody brought up Clifford Gilberto earlier in this thread: Ok, let's put aside the fact that Feed Me Weird Things and Go Plastic aren't even remotely comparable in terms of how hard to emulate they are, and that Deliver The Weird is an enormously easier track to make than Maelstrom. Supose some enterprising 18 year old spanish kid (lols) could and did sit down and do Clifford Gilberto Goes Plastic. Well, ok. Is that going to impress Grant and Rich back at the ranch, whose mantra is "Make it your music"? Ask yourself this: Would "I Was Young and Needed the Money" ever have seen a Rephlex release in a million billion years? Of course not. Cliford Gilberto admits right in the title that he's a biter.

 

"Ah, but this just isn't lush like Squarepusher! It's obviously not Tom; my super special IDM feelers can just tell." Well, duh. So it's a Go Plastic B-side that didn't make the cut originally seeing the light of day now for funzies. Mystery Solved.

 

Every time a new Rephlex guy pops up, there's either going to be A) a tangible, flesh and blood person tied to the act (Wisp), or B) there are some off-brand shenanegans going on for giggles (Tuss). Why? Because any sane person who isn't already Richard D. James or Tom Jenkinson is going to care about promotion, career, making a living from their music, etc.

 

Come on people. Steinvord is some combination of Tom Jenkinson and/or Richard D. James and its obvious.

 

great post, but again, tracks like backyard or cyg x-1 don't fit on TJ or RDJ style, not the same vibe period. iyff acid is total AFX acid awesomeness tho... but i feel some of the parts have steady "dnb" rythm to it, like on iyff acid, before it goes crazy, there's like a sort of dnb sounding sequence.. whatever. good stuff, I dont stress about this. I gotta admit tho, this:

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Why? Because any sane person who isn't already Richard D. James or Tom Jenkinson is going to care about promotion, career, making a living from their music, etc.

is kinda weird. Anyone would be all over the place if u got signed to Rephlex, specially being a young kid, but this guy is simply invisible, he has no presence anywhere. So he's either someone already stablished releasing under another alias or he takes not giving a shit to the next level.

 

 

cyg x-1 is almost identical in form to significant others by squarepusher. Same ultra high speed complex drums, although the particular drum kit used for cyg x-1 sounds exactly like "my red hot car".

 

Uhh.. do you have ears?

Sorry

 

Yeah I have ears. Do you?

 

Note the bolded word form. It has a similar buildup and same style of ultra fast, complex drums.

 

Do you have a brain?

 

And aren't you pissflaps? Thought duping was against the rules.

 

What drum kit? My Red Hot Car drums are the worm break and others.

Guest ruiagnelo

Bump to ask for confirmation:

 

Iyff Acid e1 - 4:20

Cyg x-1 - 4:15

Ontrack V2 - 4:02

Backyard - 4:03

Maelstrom - 8:58

 

I know some tracks have almost similar lenghts, and rips might be slightly different, but i am still not certain about the right tracklist. need some help please...

  On 3/17/2012 at 2:40 PM, ruiagnelo said:

Bump to ask for confirmation:

 

Iyff Acid e1 - 4:20

Cyg x-1 - 4:15

Ontrack V2 - 4:02

Backyard - 4:03

Maelstrom - 8:58

 

I know some tracks have almost similar lenghts, and rips might be slightly different, but i am still not certain about the right tracklist. need some help please...

 

correct.

but either rephlex (for extra mindjazz) or the vinyl press guys fucked up the sides.

Edited by vincentvc

Я твой слуга, Я твой работник

The tracklist on the label lists the tracks in the the order B1, B2, A1, A2, A3. A simple circular shift over the tracklist will yield the correct playing order.

 

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  On 3/12/2012 at 7:12 PM, StephenG said:

I put my money where my mouth is. That's why I have gold teeth. =)

 

LOL, love it! That's like a cheesy dad joke. :lol:

heheheh =)

 

  On 1/19/2020 at 5:27 PM, Richie Sombrero said:

Nah, you're a wee child who can't wait for official release. Embarrassing. Shove your privilege. 

  On 9/2/2014 at 12:37 AM, Ivan Ooze said:

don't be a cockroach prolapsing nun bulkV

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