the story of feminism, as told by women

hahahahahahaahahahahahaahaha oh my god really?

okay dude, put your money where your mouth is and provide facts and figures for these claims

Oh, right, of course, women being treated equally isn't important as long as they statistically make more money, and ridiculous standards for body image aren't a problem if you have clothes on. Why didn't I think of that sooner! it's so simple!

girls r better than boys get over it

holy shit I gotta see these stats, Zeff.

you could change the world with this evidence, no lies.

just for a start

source: http://www.bls.gov/cps/cpswom2009.pdf

oh look a lying misogynist

I'll just leave this here

http://www.nationalpartnership.org/site/PageServer?pagename=issues_work_epd_map

source: http://www.bls.gov/opub/ted/2011/ted_20110216_data.htm

that known feminist hideaway, the bureau of labor statistics!!!!

Posting a banner means fuck all. Did you look at the site? Every single state's sheet has a list of sources to back it up, and is from 2011. I would love to see you actually disprove it.

thats cute, but seeing as women being paid less than an average male worker for the past 50 years amongst all statisticians and think-tanks, i think this time the burden of proof is on your end, unfortunately.

nice try though.

to zeff

im gonna go ahead and call "troll" at this point. no one can be this stupid.

noted, good evidence, its from the OPINION COLUMN

  On 12/10/2011 at 12:44 AM, disparaissant said:

source: http://www.bls.gov/o...110216_data.htm

that known feminist hideaway, the bureau of labor statistics!!!!

Way to shoot yourself in the foot, even this graph shows that women make about 75% more than men for these careers. Why did you even post this?

i cant even begin to point out the flaws inyour "evidence"

1-its an opinion piece

2-the guy wrote a new book called Why Men Earn More

3-this little gem:

And among workers who have never been married and never had children, women earn 117% of what men do. (This factors in education, hours worked and age.)

Awfully specific demographic for what you claim to be a national widespread truth.

4-Aside from the blatantly manipulated number quoted above, there are NO hard statistics

ah i see, he's trolling

in case you actually are just dumber than a box of rocks, zeff, i'll give you a little tip "as percent of" is a lot different than "percent more"

this is not a sale at wal mart.

  On 12/10/2011 at 12:47 AM, Zeffolia said:

  On 12/10/2011 at 12:44 AM, disparaissant said:

source: http://www.bls.gov/o...110216_data.htm

that known feminist hideaway, the bureau of labor statistics!!!!

 

Way to shoot yourself in the foot, even this graph shows that women make about 75% more than men for these careers. Why did you even post this?

trolling confirmed

It says there numbers in the range of about 70-80

alright, its time to close this thread and ignore this guy

wait i didnt finish what i wanted 2 say

  On 12/10/2011 at 12:53 AM, Zeffolia said:

It says there numbers in the range of about 70-80

r u for real?

Dude is clearly trolling.

eugene - c. wright mills - you might have heard of him?

  On 12/10/2011 at 12:30 AM, Zeffolia said:

  On 12/10/2011 at 12:26 AM, disparaissant said:

well, i am lesbian, so ya got me there.

and in the same stroke proved your misogyny! way to go.

 

Well, I am not a misogynist, so ya didn't get me there

And in the same stroke proved your inability to make a coherent argument rather than resorting to Ad Hominem attacks.

 

"You know nothing about feminism and you're a misogynist."

 

How about you prove me wrong before you insult me?

 

 

Feminists constantly employ invalid and outdated statistics.

 

Women make MORE than men.

Women have an ADVANTAGE in applying for a job

Women have an ADVANTAGE in college acceptance and scholarship acquisition

 

What the hell else is there? Nothing worth complaining about considering the ridiculous amount of other problems which plague men and not women.

 

Going to go complain about the materialistic portrayals of the female body in the media? How about you put some damn clothes on and stop perpetuating those images, geniuses.

i know just the right wretched little corner of the internet for you

girls rule boys drool

  On 12/10/2011 at 12:58 AM, chenGOD said:

Dude is clearly trolling.

 

eugene - c. wright mills - you might have heard of him?

i vaguely remember his term "sociological imagination"..but tbh i'd rather say no.

wow, trolling just made me think of the term "repetition is the mother of knowledge", which was taught to me in 4th grade or something. When I got the hang of irony a couple of years later, I thought that it's probably the true enemy of knowledge. What also springs to mind is how categorizing always fucks argumentations up. To argue, please state your view on the central expressions, so that you know you're dealing with the same things.

In my case, I don't tell ppl actively I'm a feminist, or check a box in a poll if I consider my self feminist - but what does that actually say about my views on women or men? Nothing. I just don't like categorizing too much of my self as I feel it hinders a free life. That said, I do get the need of putting a label on stuff, and defining it, to be able to talk about it or investigate it at all.