What TV series are you watching at moment?

  On 9/24/2017 at 10:26 PM, eugene said:

if people made the best decisions we would probably have IDM jetpacked nanobots hovering around stuffing food right into people's mouths by now. and they wouldn't even ask for tips!

 

Good point

So I finished the Vietnam War doco, I really enjoyed it, some amazing and touching interviews with people from both sides, and a generally good overview over important events both in country and at the home front. At times it felt like the scope was too wide and they just skimmed the surface, bringing up the same interviewees over and over, and a shitload of home front fluff. Yes, it's important to hear the side of mothers sitting around back home waiting for their sons, but when they continually kept interrupting important events in Vietnam by cutting to that all-American front porch and the acoustic guitar started playing it started feeling like parody.

 

This is a very fascinating war to me as it has produced a lot of good films I grew up with, it had so many incredibly crazy ingredients and is still the modern world's greatest post-colonialism blunder. I was just happy we got a documentary of this scope and production level, it felt long overdue. I would have liked more stories from the actual boots on the ground, and a wider variety of interviews. I missed more honest parts of "in country life", like the day-to-day of the mid and rear echelons, South vietnam and Saigon, and things like Radio First Termer.

 

I've watched documentaries from the N.Vietnamese side and nothing really surprised me as much as it disgusted me, it was pure slaughter. Some of the things that surprised me most was the incredibly disruptive and divisive effect this war had on American communities, and how much France's behavior decades prior was to blame. It was almost inevitable after Diem was installed. I also never got the feeling that Vietminh was a communist uprising in any sincere capacity, Ho Chi Minh based the Vietnamese declaration of independence directly on the American one and sent several pleas for aid to the US administration. There were some real clowns in office after JFK. The complete meaninglessness of it all from start to finish was almost overwhelming.

 

Now people are saying this production is all revisionist propaganda to save face after all these years, and maybe they're right. It's not certain Burns would be able to pull a more vitriolic documentary off and keep the sponsors. But I also felt like the S and N.Vietnamese side was shown in a way few people have seen, including me, and the documentary provided ample reason for why America is so divided today. It is maybe not anti-war in the best way, but it's still anti-war.

Edited September 25, 2017 by chim

how does it compare to fog of war

  On 9/25/2017 at 12:14 AM, dr lopez said:

how does it compare to fog of war

Fog of war is a candid retelling of politics by one figure of importance over what, an hour and a half? This is more than 10 hours of as many aspects as you can cram in about a decades-long war, it's hard to compare. I didn't know much about McNamara before seeing Fog of War and was impressed by his honesty. I'll say that this documentary made me hate him.

  On 9/25/2017 at 12:12 AM, chim said:

This is a very fascinating war to me as it has produced a lot of good films I grew up with,

 

totally, the upcoming war with north korea will do wonders to marvel franchise i feel, it's getting a bit stale and uninspired recently.

  On 9/25/2017 at 1:24 AM, eugene said:

 

  On 9/25/2017 at 12:12 AM, chim said:

This is a very fascinating war to me as it has produced a lot of good films I grew up with,

 

 

totally, the upcoming war with north korea will do wonders to marvel franchise i feel, it's getting a bit stale and uninspired recently.

not sure if you're being caustic or just sarcastic, I knew it came off kinda wrong but I grew up with those films which sparked my interest in the war. I think I saw apocalypse now as early as 16. It'd have taken much longer otherwise, what teenager gives a fuck about atrocities a world away?

try dating a Vietnam vet's daughter

 

trauma is inherited through socialization in specific environments, so the legacy permeates today

  On 9/19/2017 at 9:39 PM, Nebraska said:

also don't think i'll be watching the deuce again. might give it one more try because i thought the second episode was just meh. also, maybe because i never watched the wire i don't have the love for david simon everyone else seems to have, but are people who are enjoying this enjoying it because they think the show is good or because of the creator? 

 

 

 

 

i think i'm done with this show

  On 9/26/2017 at 3:13 AM, Nebraska said:

 

  On 9/19/2017 at 9:39 PM, Nebraska said:

also don't think i'll be watching the deuce again. might give it one more try because i thought the second episode was just meh. also, maybe because i never watched the wire i don't have the love for david simon everyone else seems to have, but are people who are enjoying this enjoying it because they think the show is good or because of the creator? 

 

 

 

 

i think i'm done with this show

 

 

time to come back to star trek

  On 9/26/2017 at 3:13 AM, Nebraska said:

 

  On 9/19/2017 at 9:39 PM, Nebraska said:

also don't think i'll be watching the deuce again. might give it one more try because i thought the second episode was just meh. also, maybe because i never watched the wire i don't have the love for david simon everyone else seems to have, but are people who are enjoying this enjoying it because they think the show is good or because of the creator?

 

i think i'm done with this show

 

time to drop the Deuce

The Tick (2001)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0242949

..lovely.

Deuce is good people

Let it play out

no. I’m infuriated that anyone would even attempt to cover subject material even remotely related to boogie nights

Did anyone watch that new PKD show? Is it terrible?

Edited October 3, 2017 by Gocab

New Star Trek is really good. They put a good amount of money in it and you really see it

  On 10/3/2017 at 9:09 AM, Gocab said:

Did anyone watch that new PKD show? Is it terrible?

pretty much. it's really a misuse of sci-fi as a see it, they only use some (pretty exhausted by now) sci-fi-ish' concepts as a package to deliver some trite emotional punches. pretty much identical feel and structure for the first 3 episodes despite them having very different settings. is that pk dicks guy even good and it's the tv people's fault or is it another intra-watmm ultra overrated thing?

 

i'm really beginning to hate that idea of anthology series that seems to be picking up right now, still can't quite formulate properly why, but there's definitely something brewing.

  On 9/26/2017 at 7:43 AM, Rubin Farr said:

 

  On 9/26/2017 at 3:13 AM, Nebraska said:

 

  On 9/19/2017 at 9:39 PM, Nebraska said:

also don't think i'll be watching the deuce again. might give it one more try because i thought the second episode was just meh. also, maybe because i never watched the wire i don't have the love for david simon everyone else seems to have, but are people who are enjoying this enjoying it because they think the show is good or because of the creator?

 

i think i'm done with this show

 

time to drop the Deuce

 

 

i'm really underwhelmed by the deuce so far. unable to emotionally connect with a lot of the characters so far, but still going to stick with it for a while longer. heard its been renewed for a second season by hbo. 

  On 10/3/2017 at 10:06 AM, xxx said:

 

Anyway, seeing Zoe Kazan slutted out in 70s attire as Frank's "ex-wife" Andrea has really done my head in. Some shots of the sun hitting her ass and eyes are masterpieces. Can't tell if that's enough to keep me on.

 

 

 

its a sparkle-fest that even constant chronic pain wouldnt stop me from diving into,

 

not to leer, but, mein gott, what a derriere

a trucker hat with a built-in cheese grater...i fucking died.

  On 9/25/2017 at 12:20 AM, chim said:

 

  On 9/25/2017 at 12:14 AM, dr lopez said:

how does it compare to fog of war

Fog of war is a candid retelling of politics by one figure of importance over what, an hour and a half? This is more than 10 hours of as many aspects as you can cram in about a decades-long war, it's hard to compare. I didn't know much about McNamara before seeing Fog of War and was impressed by his honesty. I'll say that this documentary made me hate him.

 

 

Almost 18 hours and they still only found like what, 15 minutes for Cambodia and Laos?

Cleverman... just my kind of bad sci-fi.

  On 10/7/2017 at 4:00 AM, chenGOD said:

 

  On 9/25/2017 at 12:20 AM, chim said:

 

  On 9/25/2017 at 12:14 AM, dr lopez said:

how does it compare to fog of war

 

Fog of war is a candid retelling of politics by one figure of importance over what, an hour and a half? This is more than 10 hours of as many aspects as you can cram in about a decades-long war, it's hard to compare. I didn't know much about McNamara before seeing Fog of War and was impressed by his honesty. I'll say that this documentary made me hate him.

 

Almost 18 hours and they still only found like what, 15 minutes for Cambodia and Laos?

Bank of America needed those front porches.

  On 10/6/2017 at 10:57 PM, eugene said:

a trucker hat with a built-in cheese grater...i fucking died.

What? Where?

nathan for you. i assumed that everyone is watching it. you should if you aren't.

Last Man on Earth still delivers, almost trademarking the 1 minute celeb cameo before killing them off.  Forte seems to waffle between cringe comedy and MacGruber type stuff, but it still makes me laugh.  And they continue to rag on Walking Dead, which always gets a smile from me.