Bubba69 Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 On 6/6/2012 at 3:29 AM, Braintree said: On 6/6/2012 at 1:28 AM, The Overlook said: The Last of Us looks potentially even better than Watch Dogs. Anybody have any idea how these sorts of games are functioning, technically speaking? The dynamic dialog and action elements? As far as dialog goes, I think they just put different audio files in a bank and then program the trigger to randomly select one, or select a particular one based on other elements. I'm no programmer, though. I'm pretty sure they use a max/msp patch for it. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Bubba69's signature Hide all signatures https://intervallux.bandcamp.com/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/74032-e3-2012/page/10/#findComment-1829329 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mirezzi Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 On 6/6/2012 at 4:13 AM, usagi said: sandboxes and narrative are in no way mutually exclusive Agreed. Yet, like many gimmicks, the technique often forsakes the function. How many games succeed in this marriage? Skyrim? Surely not. GTA? Blah. On 6/6/2012 at 4:19 AM, Bubba69 said: On 6/6/2012 at 3:29 AM, Braintree said: On 6/6/2012 at 1:28 AM, The Overlook said: The Last of Us looks potentially even better than Watch Dogs. Anybody have any idea how these sorts of games are functioning, technically speaking? The dynamic dialog and action elements? As far as dialog goes, I think they just put different audio files in a bank and then program the trigger to randomly select one, or select a particular one based on other elements. I'm no programmer, though. I'm pretty sure they use a max/msp patch for it. What is that? Intrigued. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/74032-e3-2012/page/10/#findComment-1829339 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest zaphod Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 fallout 3 fell pretty far in terms of writing. there's all sorts of great narrative threads that are just abandoned due to laziness on the part of the writers. the lovecraftian dunwich building comes to mind. i like the idea of user created narratives, like separate experiences creating a unique story for each player, but this is never really the case. in skyrim i would see little hints at something great, like the giants stopping after i killed a mammoth and sort of mourning it, but that isn't really narrative. it's creative programming but it never comes together in a holistic way. watch dogs looks interesting. i'm not ever convinced by trailers like this since they can script everything out and spend lots of time tweaking a specific area and often the game doesn't function on that high a level. but the acting was kind of cool. the asian looking guy had some nice facial expressions. we'll see... probably says something that the best games i played last year were limbo and amnesia, both "indy" games focused more on gameplay than anything else. i think really immersive gaming should put gameplay first above functioning as a sort of interactive movie, which is what these things often do. it's sort of like writing a comic as though it's a film. you miss out on the advantages inherent to the medium. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/74032-e3-2012/page/10/#findComment-1829363 Share on other sites More sharing options...
delet... Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 On 6/6/2012 at 1:13 AM, The Overlook said: Watch Dogs looks great, but I couldn't help but think, why couldn't they save this for the next generation consoles? The current consoles will be lucky to get the framerates of the gameplay video they showed. However, fuck playing games from an office chair. Connect the PC to the TV via HDMI. Loll about on the couch with the keyboard on your lap and the mouse by your side. Works fine for FPS' or anything else. Done it for years now. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures A member of the non sequitairiate. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/74032-e3-2012/page/10/#findComment-1829367 Share on other sites More sharing options...
vamos scorcho Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 going to be weird playing Mario on an Xbox Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/74032-e3-2012/page/10/#findComment-1829381 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 now this is a nice tech demo. http://www.agnisphilosophy.com/en/index.html Next gen here I come. *throws money at screen* Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Silent Member's signature Hide all signatures Some songs I made with my fingers and electronics. In the process of making some more. Hopefully. Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/74032-e3-2012/page/10/#findComment-1829430 Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcbpete Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 I bet it's still not gonna be as good as Chrono Trigger. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures I haven't eaten a Wagon Wheel since 07/11/07... ilovecubus.co.uk - 25ml of mp3 taken twice daily. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/74032-e3-2012/page/10/#findComment-1829432 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 of course not Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Silent Member's signature Hide all signatures Some songs I made with my fingers and electronics. In the process of making some more. Hopefully. Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/74032-e3-2012/page/10/#findComment-1829435 Share on other sites More sharing options...
delet... Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 On 6/6/2012 at 7:28 AM, vamos scorcho said: going to be weird playing Mario on an Xbox hah On 6/6/2012 at 12:46 PM, Gocab said: now this is a nice tech demo. http://www.agnisphil...m/en/index.html Next gen here I come. *throws money at screen* http://youtu.be/UVX0OUO9ptU embedded for ease of checkening. It won't bloody full screen though. My brother was showing me the clip today on fullscreen. I can't be bothered finding that source though. It's probably around the place. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures A member of the non sequitairiate. Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/74032-e3-2012/page/10/#findComment-1829438 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Npoess Posted June 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 On 6/6/2012 at 1:13 AM, The Overlook said: Watch Dogs looks great, but I couldn't help but think, why couldn't they save this for the next generation consoles? The current consoles will be lucky to get the framerates of the gameplay video they showed. However, fuck playing games from an office chair. They haven't said it's a current gen game. And the games press seem to agree that it is a next gen title. Or am I missing something? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Npoess's signature Hide all signatures │ Tumblr │ Last.fm │ Soundcloud │ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/74032-e3-2012/page/10/#findComment-1829502 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squee Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 Ellen Page will be in Sony All-Stars Battle Royale Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/74032-e3-2012/page/10/#findComment-1829517 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mirezzi Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 On 6/6/2012 at 4:42 PM, Npoess said: On 6/6/2012 at 1:13 AM, The Overlook said: Watch Dogs looks great, but I couldn't help but think, why couldn't they save this for the next generation consoles? The current consoles will be lucky to get the framerates of the gameplay video they showed. However, fuck playing games from an office chair. They haven't said it's a current gen game. And the games press seem to agree that it is a next gen title. Or am I missing something? http://kotaku.com/5915685/heres-a-brand-new-game-called-watch-dogs-its-not-a-sequel-or-a-reboot Quote UPDATE 2 - While not initially disclosed, Ubisoft has since announced that the game is due on PC, PS3 and Xbox 360. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/74032-e3-2012/page/10/#findComment-1829542 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 On 6/5/2012 at 11:43 PM, Squee said: On 6/5/2012 at 11:40 PM, Joyrex said: On 6/5/2012 at 11:37 PM, Enter a new display name said: Nothing about The Last Guardian? :( Not a peep. Not a good sign, and probably means it will be delayed even further, if it comes out at all. It has probably been cancelled. Didn't the director leave the company? The latest mention out of Japan (and why it wasn't shown at E3) was they are still having "technical difficulties" - since Sony promotes cross-team sharing of techniques and assets, why not get the current masters of the platform like Naughty Dog or Guerrilla to offer any tips or assistance? I have a feeling it has more to do with the director's absence (even though he's still on contract basis) than anything else. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Follow WATMM on Twitter: @WATMMOfficial Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/74032-e3-2012/page/10/#findComment-1829573 Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpenprol Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 (edited) heh, if they offered tips or assistance, the tips would be: outsourcing. Naughty Dog and Guerrilla make the most heavily outsourced Sony games. Edited June 6, 2012 by lumpenprol Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide lumpenprol's signature Hide all signatures After this I listened to geogaddi and I didn't like it, I was quite vomitting at some tracks, I realized they were too crazy for my ears, they took too much acid to play music I stupidly thought (cliché of psyché music) But I knew this album was a kind of big forest where I just wasn't able to go inside. - lost cloud I was in US tjis summer, and eat in KFC. FUCK That's the worst thing i've ever eaten. The flesh simply doesn't cleave to the bones. Battery ferming. And then, foie gras is banned from NY state, because it's considered as ill-treat. IT'S NOT. KFC is tourist ill-treat. YOU POISONERS! Two hours after being to KFC, i stopped in a amsih little town barf all that KFC shit out. Nice work! So i hope this woman is not like kfc chicken, otherwise she'll be pulled to pieces. -organized confused project Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/74032-e3-2012/page/10/#findComment-1829595 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Npoess Posted June 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 On 6/6/2012 at 5:44 PM, The Overlook said: On 6/6/2012 at 4:42 PM, Npoess said: On 6/6/2012 at 1:13 AM, The Overlook said: Watch Dogs looks great, but I couldn't help but think, why couldn't they save this for the next generation consoles? The current consoles will be lucky to get the framerates of the gameplay video they showed. However, fuck playing games from an office chair. They haven't said it's a current gen game. And the games press seem to agree that it is a next gen title. Or am I missing something? http://kotaku.com/59...uel-or-a-reboot Quote UPDATE 2 - While not initially disclosed, Ubisoft has since announced that the game is due on PC, PS3 and Xbox 360. I hope not. There's no way it will look as good on consoles as in the trailer. Not even Assassins Creed 3 is close to looking so good. Reveal hidden contents Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Npoess's signature Hide all signatures │ Tumblr │ Last.fm │ Soundcloud │ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/74032-e3-2012/page/10/#findComment-1829612 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 On 6/6/2012 at 7:26 PM, Npoess said: On 6/6/2012 at 5:44 PM, The Overlook said: On 6/6/2012 at 4:42 PM, Npoess said: On 6/6/2012 at 1:13 AM, The Overlook said: Watch Dogs looks great, but I couldn't help but think, why couldn't they save this for the next generation consoles? The current consoles will be lucky to get the framerates of the gameplay video they showed. However, fuck playing games from an office chair. They haven't said it's a current gen game. And the games press seem to agree that it is a next gen title. Or am I missing something? http://kotaku.com/59...uel-or-a-reboot Quote UPDATE 2 - While not initially disclosed, Ubisoft has since announced that the game is due on PC, PS3 and Xbox 360. I hope not. There's no way it will look as good on consoles as in the trailer. Not even Assassins Creed 3 is close to looking so good. Reveal hidden contents PC master gaming race ftw Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide oscillik's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/74032-e3-2012/page/10/#findComment-1829617 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Npoess Posted June 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 What? No.... I can't stand pc gaming. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Npoess's signature Hide all signatures │ Tumblr │ Last.fm │ Soundcloud │ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/74032-e3-2012/page/10/#findComment-1829619 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 On 6/6/2012 at 7:32 PM, Npoess said: What? No.... I can't stand pc gaming. Fine, play it on the console where it won't look anywhere near as good as that. No-one is forcing you to play it on the system where it'll look the best. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide oscillik's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/74032-e3-2012/page/10/#findComment-1829634 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan C Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 FIGHT FIGHT FIGHT! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Dan C's signature Hide all signatures On 6/17/2017 at 12:33 PM, MIXL2 said: this dan c guy seems like a fucking asshole Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/74032-e3-2012/page/10/#findComment-1829635 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CraniumXII Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 (edited) I like PCs... I should also mention, I'm very glad about Watch Dogs being on PC Edited June 6, 2012 by CraniumXII Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/74032-e3-2012/page/10/#findComment-1829645 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silent Member Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 (edited) EZ guys, it doesn't get much more epic than iphone gaming, that's where it's at. Edited June 6, 2012 by Gocab Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Silent Member's signature Hide all signatures Some songs I made with my fingers and electronics. In the process of making some more. Hopefully. Reveal hidden contents Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/74032-e3-2012/page/10/#findComment-1829648 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Npoess Posted June 6, 2012 Author Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide Npoess's signature Hide all signatures │ Tumblr │ Last.fm │ Soundcloud │ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/74032-e3-2012/page/10/#findComment-1829649 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Enter a new display name Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 On 6/6/2012 at 7:58 PM, oscillik said: On 6/6/2012 at 7:32 PM, Npoess said: What? No.... I can't stand pc gaming. Fine, play it on the console where it won't look anywhere near as good as that. No-one is forcing you to play it on the system where it'll look the best. Could you please remind me how much money you were planning to spend on your next computer? £4000 if I'm not mistaken. Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/74032-e3-2012/page/10/#findComment-1829655 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joyrex Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 On 6/6/2012 at 6:58 PM, lumpenprol said: heh, if they offered tips or assistance, the tips would be: outsourcing. Naughty Dog and Guerrilla make the most heavily outsourced Sony games. I've heard about that - apparently their core team directs hordes of contract programmers to do the trenchwork while they finesse the details? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide all signatures Follow WATMM on Twitter: @WATMMOfficial Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/74032-e3-2012/page/10/#findComment-1829656 Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscillik Posted June 6, 2012 Report Share Posted June 6, 2012 On 6/6/2012 at 8:33 PM, Enter a new display name said: On 6/6/2012 at 7:58 PM, oscillik said: On 6/6/2012 at 7:32 PM, Npoess said: What? No.... I can't stand pc gaming. Fine, play it on the console where it won't look anywhere near as good as that. No-one is forcing you to play it on the system where it'll look the best. Could you please remind me how much money you were planning to spend on your next computer? £4000 if I'm not mistaken. Could you please realise that figure is not required for a great PC gaming experience? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide oscillik's signature Hide all signatures Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/74032-e3-2012/page/10/#findComment-1829659 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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