Masked gunman kills 14 at Batman premiere in Denver

So how far did they get through this movie? This might change how the hospital visit plays out.

  On 7/21/2012 at 6:14 AM, YO303 said:

kids are idiot

people are theorizing that the kid was drugged/hypnotized to do this, by the CIA, as there is a UN Arms Treaty up for vote next week that supposedly will destroy americas 2nd amendment and enable a clamp down by the us government. have not even heard of this treaty before... need to do some reading.

conspiracy theorists... discuss.

The Unabomber was brainwashed by the CIA so its possible they are still doing it.

the only conspiracy i can think of is that this man wasn't mentally ill, he's a terrorist. i think the media will try to spin it away from that.

  On 7/20/2012 at 11:16 PM, xxx said:

Unfortunately, I can empathize with this guy. I got into neuroscience/psychiatry/psychology because I wanted understand and "fix" my own burgeoning mental illness. That pathway is so much adolescent hubris and those problems cannot be intellectualized away but I was lucky enough to not have dissociative psychosis like this guy probably had. It's sad to me that this thread is 7 pages of gun rhetoric while a mental health crisis burns like wildfire in America. Read the latest issue of Time magazine who did a great article on the epidemic of soldier suicide http://www.time.com/...1981284,00.html

We medicate and don't cure. There's more money in medicating.

  On 7/21/2012 at 6:36 AM, Kcinsu said:

people are theorizing that the kid was drugged/hypnotized to do this, by the CIA, as there is a UN Arms Treaty up for vote next week that supposedly will destroy americas 2nd amendment and enable a clamp down by the us government. have not even heard of this treaty before... need to do some reading.

 

conspiracy theorists... discuss.

no, don't. please.

obligatory.

  On 7/21/2012 at 6:36 AM, Kcinsu said:

conspiracy theorists... discuss.

none of us can top this thread

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hey y'all guys know that Batman bears a striking resemblence to jackal-headed Egyptian afterlife (dark night anyone?) God Anubis...?

The shooting was in Denver Colorado

and look what they erected outside the infamous Denver Airport

 

 

coincidence....?

I believe the statue was there until 9 / 1 / 2011

Denver also home to large secret military facilities....

lone gunmen...

hmmm

It's a sad event.

But I'm strangely interested in how the story of the shooter evolves further. He hasn't blown his own brains out. After an act like that, it's hard to make up any reasons to keep yourself from doing that, I imagine. He had booby trapped his house. Why? What was his point? Trying to blow up his neighbors if they would have entered his apartment because of the loud music?

He's a smart guy, so there must have been some reasoning going on there. I can't imagine him being the "hearing voices" kind of type. After the amount of things he already had achieved, education wise, he either didn't have that problem, or had been extremely good at dealing with it for long periods of time. At least, I don't see many "hearing voices" types reaching the Phd level. Unless it's math and they're uber-brilliant. Mathematicians tend to be exceptional in that regard.

http://www.naturalne...false_flag.html

There were also initial reports of there being an accomplice. The death toll was 14, now it's 12.

https://maps.google....t=h&mra=ls&z=12

Century Cinemas is about a 20 mile drive from Columbine High School, where a similar event occurred involving young white males shooting innocent victims. The Columbine shootings involved 12 students being murdered and 1 teacher being murdered along with multiple people being injured.

Based on my calculations:

If the United States is 3.79 million square miles, then the chance of a dart hitting "20 miles" (or less) away from Columbine High School on a map of the United States is roughly .001% .

If the Earth's land surface is 92149347.808 square miles, then the chance of a dart hitting "20 miles" (or less) away from Columbine High School on a map of the Earth's land is roughly .000043%.

  On 7/21/2012 at 12:10 PM, HoA said:

http://www.naturalne...false_flag.html

 

There were also initial reports of there being an accomplice. The death toll was 14, now it's 12.

 

https://maps.google....t=h&mra=ls&z=12

 

Century Cinemas is about a 20 mile drive from Columbine High School, where a similar event occurred involving young white males shooting innocent victims. The Columbine shootings involved 12 students being murdered and 1 teacher being murdered along with multiple people being injured.

 

Based on my calculations:

 

If the United States is 3.79 million square miles, then the chance of a dart hitting "20 miles" (or less) away from Columbine High School on a map of the United States is roughly .001% .

 

If the Earth's land surface is 92149347.808 square miles, then the chance of a dart hitting "20 miles" (or less) away from Columbine High School on a map of the Earth's land is roughly .000043%.

911

holy shit, this guy's onto something serious you guys.

  On 7/21/2012 at 6:52 AM, Braintree said:

  On 7/20/2012 at 11:16 PM, xxx said:

Unfortunately, I can empathize with this guy. I got into neuroscience/psychiatry/psychology because I wanted understand and "fix" my own burgeoning mental illness. That pathway is so much adolescent hubris and those problems cannot be intellectualized away but I was lucky enough to not have dissociative psychosis like this guy probably had. It's sad to me that this thread is 7 pages of gun rhetoric while a mental health crisis burns like wildfire in America. Read the latest issue of Time magazine who did a great article on the epidemic of soldier suicide http://www.time.com/...1981284,00.html

 

We medicate and don't cure. There's more money in medicating.

all that said though, mental illness is very slippery. Despite big pharma, we're still way better now at treating brain stuff than we used to be, let's keep a little positivity here.

I wonder what percentage of sociopaths and pedos are born that way. Would be weird to feel different growing up, not because you happen to be gay, but because you feel a barely controllable urge to fuck kids or kill people. Probably shouldn't lump the two together, I'm guessing most pedos are so due to environment, not genetics. Should read but am lazy...hmm...

Interesting thoughts here:

http://www.sociopathworld.com/2008/11/sociopath-broken-brain.html

http://suite101.com/article/causes-of-psychopathy-a62417

  On 7/21/2012 at 12:10 PM, HoA said:

http://www.naturalne...false_flag.html

 

I liked this article, but it could do without the conspiracy crap.

Why would some government organisation act so obviously to provide this "lone wolf" with all this expensive equipment which would indeed directly point at those organisations? Wouldn't that be too obvious? So obvious, those organisations would have been smart enough to do it less obvious perhaps? Or are we going into the triple psychology strategies department here? Like it was their strategy to make it obvious, so that public opinion would think nothing of it. Sure.

*puts off tinfoil cap*

  On 7/21/2012 at 11:55 AM, goDel said:

It's a sad event.

 

But I'm strangely interested in how the story of the shooter evolves further. He hasn't blown his own brains out. After an act like that, it's hard to make up any reasons to keep yourself from doing that, I imagine. He had booby trapped his house. Why? What was his point? Trying to blow up his neighbors if they would have entered his apartment because of the loud music?

 

He's a smart guy, so there must have been some reasoning going on there. I can't imagine him being the "hearing voices" kind of type. After the amount of things he already had achieved, education wise, he either didn't have that problem, or had been extremely good at dealing with it for long periods of time. At least, I don't see many "hearing voices" types reaching the Phd level. Unless it's math and they're uber-brilliant. Mathematicians tend to be exceptional in that regard.

With all due respect, you don't seem to have a very firm grasp of how mental illness works. There's no "type". Academic and intelligent people are no less likely to suffer from mental illness. Mental illness is not necessarily a hindrance to academic achievement. And it's the sort of thing that can wax and wane depending on any number of factors.

It's not really a good idea to try and work out who this guy is or what problems he's had from media reports - at least not at this stage.

Also - come on America, hurry up and ban fucking superhero films. So sick to death of them. Also, Batman fans are probably the worst. If you like the Batman movies you're probably a child or a bad person, and if you read the comics - especially the Frank Miller comics - I never even want to talk to you.

i have batdance 12", am i on the mass massacre terrorist watch?

With all due respect, "mental illness" is a very broad qualification. And one that I haven't used either. Not unless "hearing voices types" encompasses every kind of mental illness out there. But that'd be your reading, I guess. Not mine.

edit.: in short, please don't put words in my mouth I haven't said.

Well to be honest I would never use a fucking phrase like "hearing voices type" as if that defines a person. I'm actually taking words OUT of your mouth, and ps I'll do that whenever I want.

Fine, next time just tell me I'm a jerk for using the term the way I did. I can actually see where you're coming from that way, and agree. That's better than the pseudo argument about proving that I have no grasp or whatever based on some created things I didn't mean or said. And yes you can do whatever you want. Do you need to prove that to anyone?

edit.: perhaps you should start with being honest the next time

  On 7/21/2012 at 2:29 PM, Iain C said:

If you like the Batman movies you're probably a child or a bad person.

  On 7/21/2012 at 6:10 AM, Awepittance said:

someone should do a mashup of kids in the hospital Vs christian bale's lighting rant on the set of terminator salvation

  On 7/20/2012 at 12:44 PM, o00o said:

maybe he was angry for not getting a seat

  On 7/20/2012 at 3:47 PM, Dan C said:

Just let them all kill each other, it will make the oil last longer.

WATMM™

Nope.. I'm done.. Need a break.

  On 7/21/2012 at 11:55 AM, goDel said:

He's a smart guy, so there must have been some reasoning going on there.

  On 7/21/2012 at 11:55 AM, goDel said:

I can't imagine him being the "hearing voices" kind of type.

  On 7/21/2012 at 11:55 AM, goDel said:

At least, I don't see many "hearing voices" types reaching the Phd level. Unless it's math and they're uber-brilliant. Mathematicians tend to be exceptional in that regard.

I stand by what I said, you seem pretty clueless about this issue. I wonder how many "hearing voices types" you actually know. But I don't want to get into a boring argument about it.

Perhaps you need some explanation from my side before you make a judgement? Here in Holland, where I happen to live, we had a couple of similar instances. In a recent case it was someone who had been hospitalized for a while and was actually hearing voices. In his notes he described it as a God directly talking to him.

So, from my clueless position I gather: no, this James probably isn't in that category.

And from my experiences at the Uni and the mathematics faculty in particular: there were quite a number of borderline paranoids there. Some of who I still consider to be friends.

But lets keep on being passive aggressive by having no argument and tell each other we're being clueless mindless jerks. Sorry for having stepped on your toes by talking about "hearing voices types". I actually agree with you on that one, but feel free to keep on calling me a clueless jerk if that makes you feel any better.