marf Posted October 9, 2012 Report Share Posted October 9, 2012 have you seen the stuff Cylob has done in supercollider? he's a fucking genius. he made whole apps with it Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75885-maxmsp-pure-data-supercollider-chuck/page/2/#findComment-1888380 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascdi Posted October 19, 2012 Report Share Posted October 19, 2012 The Nord Modular sounds really idiosyncratic and weird though. Getting feature parity with it would be easy (as in, having access to all the "same" filter modules and stuff), but the box itself just sounds so goddamn weird and awesome. It might be a project to reverse-engineer all that personality? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75885-maxmsp-pure-data-supercollider-chuck/page/2/#findComment-1892386 Share on other sites More sharing options...
geosmina Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 there's a pretty neat course at Coursera about ChucK. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide geosmina's signature Hide all signatures https://animanoir.xyz/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75885-maxmsp-pure-data-supercollider-chuck/page/2/#findComment-2080614 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 26, 2013 Report Share Posted October 26, 2013 inreresting, last time i used ChucK (ca. 2009/2010) it seemed kinda incomplete & abandoned.... had a lot of fun with it though! Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75885-maxmsp-pure-data-supercollider-chuck/page/2/#findComment-2080672 Share on other sites More sharing options...
geosmina Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 maybe that's the reason I managed to create a little SinOsc composition in no time! SC seems much harder, imo. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide geosmina's signature Hide all signatures https://animanoir.xyz/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75885-maxmsp-pure-data-supercollider-chuck/page/2/#findComment-2080725 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyxox Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 On 10/26/2013 at 9:11 PM, logakght said: there's a pretty neat course at Coursera about ChucK. damn! why not sc?! Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75885-maxmsp-pure-data-supercollider-chuck/page/2/#findComment-2080892 Share on other sites More sharing options...
geosmina Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 On 10/27/2013 at 2:21 PM, xox said: On 10/26/2013 at 9:11 PM, logakght said: there's a pretty neat course at Coursera about ChucK. damn! why not sc?! Hopefully soon. I've seen about Processing, now ChucK... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide geosmina's signature Hide all signatures https://animanoir.xyz/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75885-maxmsp-pure-data-supercollider-chuck/page/2/#findComment-2080977 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 courses for horses Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75885-maxmsp-pure-data-supercollider-chuck/page/2/#findComment-2080978 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyxox Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 i hope so. i've started with the sc book but for someone who never programmed before it's very hard so i'm searching for any help i can get On 10/27/2013 at 7:36 PM, logakght said: On 10/27/2013 at 2:21 PM, xox said: On 10/26/2013 at 9:11 PM, logakght said: there's a pretty neat course at Coursera about ChucK. damn! why not sc?! Hopefully soon. I've seen about Processing, now ChucK... Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75885-maxmsp-pure-data-supercollider-chuck/page/2/#findComment-2080997 Share on other sites More sharing options...
geosmina Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 at the bottom there are some cool SC tutos: http://funprogramming.org/ Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide geosmina's signature Hide all signatures https://animanoir.xyz/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75885-maxmsp-pure-data-supercollider-chuck/page/2/#findComment-2081002 Share on other sites More sharing options...
geosmina Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 SinOsc sin1 => PRCRev a=> dac; 0.2 => a.mix; while (true) { 0.8 => sin1.gain; for (1 => int i; i <= 5; i++) { 311.127 => sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; 349.228 => sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; 466.164 => sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; 415.305 => sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; 277.183=> sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; } for (1 => int i; i <= 5; i++) { 349.228 => sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; 311.127 => sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; 466.164 => sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; 277.183=> sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; 415.305 => sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; } } so much fun! :D Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide geosmina's signature Hide all signatures https://animanoir.xyz/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75885-maxmsp-pure-data-supercollider-chuck/page/2/#findComment-2081053 Share on other sites More sharing options...
geosmina Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 this one's better: SinOsc sin1 => PRCRev a=> dac; 1 => int con1; 0.2 => a.mix; while (true) { while (con1 <= 2) { con1++; 0.8 => sin1.gain; for (1 => int i; i <= 5; i++) { 311.127*1.5 => sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; 349.228 => sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; 466.164 => sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; 415.305 => sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; 277.183=> sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; } for (1 => int i; i <= 5; i++) { 349.228 => sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; 311.127 => sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; 466.164 => sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; 277.183=> sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; 415.305 => sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; } } for (1 => int i; i <= 2; i++) { 311.127 => sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; 349.228 => sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; 466.164 => sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; 415.305 => sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; 277.183=> sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; } for (1 => int i; i <= 2; i++) { 349.228 => sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; 311.127 => sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; 466.164 => sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; 277.183=> sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; 415.305 => sin1.freq; 0.5 => sin1.gain; 0.2::second => now; } 0 => con1; } Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide geosmina's signature Hide all signatures https://animanoir.xyz/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75885-maxmsp-pure-data-supercollider-chuck/page/2/#findComment-2081059 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyxox Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 looks like fun... thnx for the link Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75885-maxmsp-pure-data-supercollider-chuck/page/2/#findComment-2081068 Share on other sites More sharing options...
geosmina Posted October 27, 2013 Report Share Posted October 27, 2013 yeah thats with chucK Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide geosmina's signature Hide all signatures https://animanoir.xyz/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75885-maxmsp-pure-data-supercollider-chuck/page/2/#findComment-2081069 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyxox Posted May 25, 2014 Report Share Posted May 25, 2014 can someone point me at composers/producers who use supercollider/csound/chuck or any similar language in their production which music doesn't sound like it could have been made in propellerhead's reason 2.0? ...cause i can't find any. they all talk smart but when they have to show their work it's a child's play, no art what-so-ever pure data/max/msp/reaktor? plenty of them Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75885-maxmsp-pure-data-supercollider-chuck/page/2/#findComment-2167541 Share on other sites More sharing options...
ascdi Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 The modern era of Cylob is all SuperCollider, yes? Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75885-maxmsp-pure-data-supercollider-chuck/page/2/#findComment-2167680 Share on other sites More sharing options...
marf Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 https://soundcloud.com/timeblind mostly SC Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75885-maxmsp-pure-data-supercollider-chuck/page/2/#findComment-2167754 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Sensi Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 On 5/25/2014 at 5:59 PM, xox said: can someone point me at composers/producers who use supercollider/csound/chuck or any similar language in their production which music doesn't sound like it could have been made in propellerhead's reason 2.0? ...cause i can't find any. they all talk smart but when they have to show their work it's a child's play, no art what-so-ever pure data/max/msp/reaktor? plenty of them The only thing I can think of is this. It was written in CSound. What you said is definitely a problem for the text based programs you mentioned and I've had the exact same thought. WIth Max, PD, and Reaktor you can point to Exile, Squarepusher, Autechre, etc. to hear them used in solid pieces of music. Hearing examples of SC/CSound/ChucK, it usually sounds like academic wankery. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75885-maxmsp-pure-data-supercollider-chuck/page/2/#findComment-2167766 Share on other sites More sharing options...
psn Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 On 5/26/2014 at 9:55 AM, Oscar said: Hearing examples of SC/CSound/ChucK, it usually sounds like academic wankery. Try this: Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75885-maxmsp-pure-data-supercollider-chuck/page/2/#findComment-2167768 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyxox Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 as i said; all of the examples sound like they could have been made in reason and they're nothing special artistically imo second, bt worked 6 months (!!!) on the upper track (in csound). was it really worth it? cause he could have probably made it in logic in two weeks max. the main problem with programming languages in general is that for programming dominant left brain (logic, linear and analytical thinking, non-visual) is a necessity while art requires dominant right brain (randomness, visual, intuition, creativity) and that's why programs like max/msp are more appropriate for music production imo. i'm still in doubt about cost effectiveness of audio programming languages (in my work) for creating something artistically usable (meaning: to meet my expectations in art, meaning: to artistically justify all the travail). btw, i'm just a supercollider n00b so have that in mind (that i know shit). Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75885-maxmsp-pure-data-supercollider-chuck/page/2/#findComment-2167956 Share on other sites More sharing options...
geosmina Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 well I'm learning those type of programming not for making a melody I could simply make in Reason, or whatever. I'm learning it to make my music/work "alive", to breathe. "Generative" is the usual termn, but I prefer "alive". Like, making decisions based on some parameters I "and the machine" think of. Changing music in infinite ways. And also to add interactivity. Yeah. I don't really see artsy programming languages (about music) to "write music", but to add randomness and shit like that to an actual track made in a DAW or sheet music, yo. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide geosmina's signature Hide all signatures https://animanoir.xyz/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75885-maxmsp-pure-data-supercollider-chuck/page/2/#findComment-2167959 Share on other sites More sharing options...
geosmina Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 and btw that "left/right" brain theory is a myth and debunked. cowpoop. Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide geosmina's signature Hide all signatures https://animanoir.xyz/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75885-maxmsp-pure-data-supercollider-chuck/page/2/#findComment-2167962 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keyxox Posted May 26, 2014 Report Share Posted May 26, 2014 On 5/26/2014 at 7:59 PM, logakght said: well I'm learning those type of programming not for making a melody I could simply make in Reason, or whatever. I'm learning it to make my music/work "alive", to breathe. "Generative" is the usual termn, but I prefer "alive". Like, making decisions based on some parameters I "and the machine" think of. Changing music in infinite ways. And also to add interactivity. Yeah. I don't really see artsy programming languages (about music) to "write music", but to add randomness and shit like that to an actual track made in a DAW or sheet music, yo. i hate randomness in most parts. i only use it sometimes to slightly vary velocity or similar parameters, to 'humanize' music, if that's what you mean. on the other pole is 'machine thinking'. well, i'm not fan of 'machine thinking' either cause i usually want all the decisions to come from me i couldn't find useful situations for using preset rules; every situation requires different rules and if i have to change the rules all the time it's better not to have them in the first place, they just stand on the way of my intuition. so, as you can see, i live somewhere in between those poles and i have to find ways to justify all the travail. maybe i will. i still know too little to be sure in anything i guess. regarding right/left brain, debunked or not - doesn't matter, certain dominant ways of thinking are more associated with programming while others more with creative-artistic outcome, especially in music production Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75885-maxmsp-pure-data-supercollider-chuck/page/2/#findComment-2167982 Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 "what if I could....." (creative thinking) >>>> programmering (aspergers thinking) >>>>>> magic / poop Quote Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75885-maxmsp-pure-data-supercollider-chuck/page/2/#findComment-2168073 Share on other sites More sharing options...
geosmina Posted May 27, 2014 Report Share Posted May 27, 2014 cowpoop Thanks Haha Confused Sad Facepalm Burger Farnsworth Big Brain Like × Quote Hide geosmina's signature Hide all signatures https://animanoir.xyz/ Link to comment https://forum.watmm.com/topic/75885-maxmsp-pure-data-supercollider-chuck/page/2/#findComment-2168076 Share on other sites More sharing options...
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