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  On 9/17/2019 at 7:22 AM, Lada Laika said:

Did he though?

Sort of. More than the joker, for sure. He at least didn't like pimps and junkies. He also saved Jodie Foster.

In a weird way, he cared. That's more than you can say for the joker.

If choosing the Manson clan murders is a vehicle for "entertainment", that's a shitty vehicle. Saying Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is solely (or even predominantly) entertainment is reductive.

I also find Tarantino's insistence on an alternate narrative to this moment in history to be a weakness. To me, this film feels like conservative fantasy-fulfillment of what could have been in Hollywood, posing the Manson murders as a theft of Hollywood's collective innocence. It's a very narrow perspective and one I find no enjoyment or quarter.

The movie was just Quentin telling Leo & Brad how to pose embedded in a sloppy script. I can not find any of the deeper meaning you guys are seeing in this

“Hey brad pull up your shirt”

”hey Leo look drunk and drive the vintage  car down that road” 

thats about how deep the movie goes

Watched "Wind" lastnight. Its good 9/10 

  On 9/17/2019 at 9:25 PM, Taupe Beats said:

If choosing the Manson clan murders is a vehicle for "entertainment", that's a shitty vehicle. Saying Once Upon a Time in Hollywood is solely (or even predominantly) entertainment is reductive.

I also find Tarantino's insistence on an alternate narrative to this moment in history to be a weakness. To me, this film feels like conservative fantasy-fulfillment of what could have been in Hollywood, posing the Manson murders as a theft of Hollywood's collective innocence. It's a very narrow perspective and one I find no enjoyment or quarter.

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It is not the perogative of the filmmaker to rewrite history, specially to this extent. It is a weakness of his and it's basically a joke, I let it slide for Django unchained and Inglorious Basterds, but can't for this.

yeah it is a joke. that's the point. 

Just saw “In Fabric”. Solid. A bit “I’m 14 and this is deep” in places but the weird more than made up for it. Two men getting off by listening to a third man explain the process of repairing a washing machine, that sort of thing. Very entertaining.

Soundtrack’s by Cavern of Anti-matter (Stereolab offshoot), too, which is nice.

  On 9/18/2019 at 2:40 PM, MadameChaos said:

It is not the perogative of the filmmaker to rewrite history

It definitely is, they can do what they want. Especially when the film isn't a biopic, but even then, they rarely stick to the facts.

  On 9/19/2019 at 9:14 AM, caze said:

It definitely is, they can do what they want. Especially when the film isn't a biopic, but even then, they rarely stick to the facts.

on this topic we'll agree to disagree.

Watched "Parasite", this year's Palme D'or. It is a very well made film, with a clear message and many brilliant moments, but on the other hand, it felt contrieved to me. The story went where it needed to go, everybody perfectly acted out what they needed to do, but I didn't feel honesty in this film. There were also some questionable music choices. No dissing, but it did nothing for me.

  On 9/19/2019 at 12:25 PM, MadameChaos said:

on this topic we'll agree to disagree.

i for one categorically disagree that filmmakers have to make films according what madamechaos likes

I saw this on a plane yesterday.

Quite good. 

Olivier Assayas is one of my current faves. Everything I've seen by him is thought-provoking and unique. This is no exception.

It is "talky" and plays a bit like a couple simultaneous philosophical essays that are woven together with shoe-horned narratives & character viewpoints... though, having said that, those philosophical ideas are challenging and fascinating (the impending fate of print media vs the democratization of artistic ideas via the internet, being the main one). Also, the script/direction/performances are all top notch.

If you are in the mood for something heady with some light domestic conflict and zero explosions/car chases, this is your movie.

+10 points for Julie Binoche

  On 9/19/2019 at 8:50 PM, dr lopez said:

i for one categorically disagree that filmmakers have to make films according what madamechaos likes

hahahahaha calm your tits lopez, I just feel its really disrespectful to rewrite history around people being brutally murdered. AIBU???

oh great Quentin, how kind of you to write a film in which these people didn't die, i wonder how the friends and families feel about it?

  On 9/19/2019 at 12:25 PM, MadameChaos said:

on this topic we'll agree to disagree.

I guess this. I am under no illusion that anything that happened in the film represents reality in any way, nor does it undermine it or make fun of the Manson Murders. They are two separate things in my mind. I'm sure there is a line somewhere when it comes to changing history in a movie, which probably has to do with the writer/director trying to persuade you of something by lying to you. But that movie is not that thing.

How many times have we seen alternate history movies where the nazis won, or video games with that same plot? Same thing. I don't think some video game where you kill nazis  who managed to win WW2 undermines the actual history of WW2.

btw idk why I keep referencing nazis. Just the easiest example in my mind.

great documentary that attempts to give a full document on how timothy mcveigh perpetrated the alfred murrah federal building in oklahoma, resulting in one of the biggest acts of terrorism in .us history.

despite being almost 2 hours, it feels thoroughly edited resulting in such clarity issues- eg. bringing up robert jay mathews and the order and loosely tying him (and the group) with a fringe racist and anti-government organization influenced by the turner diaries and that being mcveigh's inspiration and tutorial for the bombing but only barely mention his (mcveigh's) constant cross-country trips to gun shows that mostly appeal to fanatic right-wingers etc. also- the bombing and capture offer no new insight.

ONCE UPON A TIME IN HOLLYWOOD. 8/10.

Ace movie, has a certain unforcedness , an ease that could point to Quentin's having entered his "old master" phase, which I don't mind. Was impartial to DEATH PROOF, didn't much care for INGLORIOUS BASTERDS, didn't like DJANGO, but really loved THE HATEFUL EIGHT and had a veritable blast in this one. Things are lookin' up for Quentin IMO, I like where he's going.

hateful eight was garbage. one big troll movie. yes yes i'll shoot on 70mm but it will be inside a cabin the entire time. lmao.

hollywood was good tho. brad pitt surprised me

  On 9/21/2019 at 5:22 PM, dr lopez said:

hateful eight was garbage. one big troll movie. yes yes i'll shoot on 70mm but it will be inside a cabin the entire time. lmao.

 

hollywood was good tho. brad pitt surprised me

Best chamber drama since Murnau. 8.4/10, would watch again.

  On 9/21/2019 at 5:19 PM, IDEM said:

Things are lookin' up for Quentin IMO, I like where he's going.

i thought the word was that this was his last movie?

btw i'm 98% out of the loop so apologies if this has been covered

  On 9/21/2019 at 7:55 PM, auxien said:

i thought the word was that this was his last movie?

btw i'm 98% out of the loop so apologies if this has been covered

Not really; he's said that he'll only ever do ten movies in the past, but since he's not counting FOUR ROOMS (nor SIN CITY) at all and apparently considers KILL BILL 1 & 2 one movie, that would put him at nine atm. Plus it's unsure how serious that claim was to begin with, and if he'll really honour it (which seems doubtful IMO). So I definitely don't think that this is the last we've heard from ol' Quentin ...

Downton Abbey 

  On 9/21/2019 at 9:21 PM, IDEM said:

Not really; he's said that he'll only ever do ten movies in the past, but since he's not counting FOUR ROOMS (nor SIN CITY) at all and apparently considers KILL BILL 1 & 2 one movie, that would put him at nine atm. Plus it's unsure how serious that claim was to begin with, and if he'll really honour it (which seems doubtful IMO). So I definitely don't think that this is the last we've heard from ol' Quentin ...

i see okay, i remember hearing he was trying to do a Star Trek movie too and stuff, so i guess it's all based on his own rules and he's not even necessarily for sure sticking with that anyway. i haven't paid all that much attention to his stuff in a bit. Django and Inglorious were a bit too over the top for me so i kinda quit caring, tho i'm sure there's plenty of good stuff in all of his films.

Ad Astra - Wasted opportunity 

  On 9/22/2019 at 3:01 AM, randomsummer said:

Downton Abbey 

lady mary can get it for sure