A Civilized Discussion on Gender Issues

  On 4/20/2013 at 7:09 PM, chenGOD said:

zeff - been divorced once, working on the second at the moment. way to keep the discourse civil by the way.

 

the selective service issue is bigger than the right to vote. from what i understand historically the ss is a recrnt thing, prior to that there was no draft and thus no registration necessary.

 

your ideas of chattel are ludicrous. men worked dangerous jobs but they got paid. wimen could not wirk those jobs. they simply didnt have the option.

 

anyways im on my phone and supposed to be enjoying my weekend so have at it.

They got paid menial wages and at the end of the day sacrificed those wages over to their woman so they could cook. The on-the-job death rate of men vs women ALONE suggests men resemble chattel more than women do

And -I- am NOT the one making this debate uncivil. YOU are. And everyone else who from the beginning has insulted me as a person and failed to attempt to refute anything I say logically or with evidence and instead resorts to comments like "Grow up, deal with it, men deserve to have their asses handed to them for once, women have had to deal with this for thousands of years it's men's fault"

Honestly

  On 4/20/2013 at 1:17 PM, cqueberel said:

 

  On 4/20/2013 at 11:50 AM, Zeffolia said:

This is not a civil discussion you are having here

 

It is not even a discussion, it's more like chasing a chicken. I mean, when someone is refuting a simple logical argument with "syllogistic logic is so passe", there really exists no basis for any kind of reasonable discussion.

I am a long time-lurker on these forums and read it for music-related/art-related stuff, but the level of idiocy displayed by many posters makes me want to avoid it now. I guess I have to find another source of IDMz and batcock.

 

This exactly

I mean if this was just people popping in for the odd illogical comment it'd be whatever, that always happens, but it's the same people over and over again who insist they are right and blatantly disregard logic

If one of you are reading this and still think men deserve to be punished for their actions against women in the past, and that this is right and just, and that men should just suck it up and deal with it, then...

a) You are a sexist bigot

b) You are not even following the core ideals of feminism (which are theoretically equality, but in practice superiority for women) and you are leading to its downfall.

GoDel I don't know where you live but if it is in the US or any other severely feminized country then you cannot possibly think you are being treated fairly in your divorce cases

Even if you don't want to admit it in this thread I highly suggest you use every legal right you have to attempt to make it close to fair for you, and disregard your feminist preconceptions about what is right and wrong. If you do not, you will be fucked over.

Depends on the woman but even so, if a woman wants she can clean you up real good - many divorce court lawyers specifically instruct them on what lies are safe to tell to try and get more. Many more will instruct them years beforehand as well on how to slowly sift away some of your money without you noticing. And it's completely legal.

Even if it's not happening to you, the fact that it can happen at all, to anyone, is appalling and the reason I will never legally marry.

In the words of a wise man...

"Go to Vegas and bet your house, your car, your friends, and any pussy you’ll be getting for the next seven years on Black. If you can do that, you’re ready to get married." -Dick Masterson

Another comment I'd like to make

I've discussed this issue on forums where the average age is closer to ~16 and had a far more civil, logical and evidence based discussion of this issue than you people are presenting here. And the average age here is what, in the 23 range? Should be ashamed really

relax please.

Yeah GoDel take his advice - relax

somebody please lock this miserable thread

Zeffolia's arguments can basically be summarised with this:

So because some beta faggot shares my views on men's rights I'm the same as him? Give me a break and quit with the personal attacks. You really don't help your case

  On 4/20/2013 at 11:25 PM, Zeffolia said:

So because some beta faggot

ok, can we close this thread now? The "civilized discussion" appears to have ended a while back.

"hey why aren't you faggots being civilized?"

  On 4/20/2013 at 9:22 PM, Glunk said:

i just want all the shit to stop

  On 4/21/2013 at 12:23 AM, disparaissant said:

 

  On 4/20/2013 at 9:22 PM, Glunk said:

i just want all the shit to stop

 

Also, please stop saying 'faggots' it's really hatefully unnecessary language.

GoDel and ChenGOD 4 lyf.

Nothing but love for you guys.

  On 4/21/2013 at 1:06 AM, rixxx said:

 

  On 4/21/2013 at 12:23 AM, disparaissant said:

 

  On 4/20/2013 at 9:22 PM, Glunk said:

i just want all the shit to stop

 

 

 

Also, please stop saying 'faggots' it's really hatefully unnecessary language.

 

GoDel and ChenGOD 4 lyf.

 

Nothing but love for you guys.

 

Yeah ofc the woman loves the guys who insult their own gender by willingly sacrificing their own rights so that women can profit. Misandry at work

yeah okay it's seriously time for you to go fuck yourself

  On 4/20/2013 at 11:25 PM, Zeffolia said:

So because some beta faggot shares my views on men's rights I'm the same as him? Give me a break and quit with the personal attacks. You really don't help your case

Haha you are a seriously dumb fuck.

yeh Im a sucker for men who sell out their gender

  On 4/21/2013 at 1:30 AM, Iain C said:

 

  On 4/20/2013 at 11:25 PM, Zeffolia said:

So because some beta faggot shares my views on men's rights I'm the same as him? Give me a break and quit with the personal attacks. You really don't help your case

 

Haha you are a seriously dumb fuck.

 

How am I seriously a dumb fuck

  On 4/21/2013 at 1:40 AM, Zeffolia said:

 

  On 4/21/2013 at 1:30 AM, Iain C said:

 

  On 4/20/2013 at 11:25 PM, Zeffolia said:

So because some beta faggot shares my views on men's rights I'm the same as him? Give me a break and quit with the personal attacks. You really don't help your case

 

Haha you are a seriously dumb fuck.

 

How am I seriously a dumb fuck

 

I'll give you a hint:

  On 4/21/2013 at 1:51 AM, LimpyLoo said:

 

  On 4/21/2013 at 1:40 AM, Zeffolia said:

 

  On 4/21/2013 at 1:30 AM, Iain C said:

 

  On 4/20/2013 at 11:25 PM, Zeffolia said:

So because some beta faggot shares my views on men's rights I'm the same as him? Give me a break and quit with the personal attacks. You really don't help your case

 

Haha you are a seriously dumb fuck.

 

How am I seriously a dumb fuck

 

 

I'll give you a hint:

 

 

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fuck you, you dumb fuck

 

 

Fuck you bad troll

zeffolia you are like the irl version of that cartoonist from the onion.

  On 4/21/2013 at 2:12 AM, disparaissant said:

zeffolia you are like the irl version of that cartoonist from the onion.

Yeah okay

You guys are the WATMM version of Fox news - except "Liberal"

Reject all facts and keep on with the bullshit

ps

  On 4/21/2013 at 2:13 AM, disparaissant said:

ps

 

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misandry 4 lyfe

 

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PS go fuck yourself

This is the fucking problem right here

I won't even fucking bother anymore

Hopefully some day you feminist bigots will see the light

Look at this kid's life ruined