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Guest zaphod
  On 7/12/2013 at 12:01 AM, zazen said:

 

Getting some good reviews, here's one from metafilter user Telf

 

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Saw it. It's great for what it is. First big effects movie I've seen in years that didn't leave me vaguely disappointed. Accept that the initial conceit is that giant robots are fighting giant monsters and everything is internally consistent. Great world building. Made me think there are 100+ great stories behind every scene. Good pacing, great action, actually felt important. Finally, a big action/disaster/giant robot movie that isn't a steaming pile of shit.

 

Still though, haters are gonna hate on it.

 

 

yay for mediocrity!

how do both pilots eject from beneath the surface of the ocean, and don't immediately die of the bends when they surface?

Edited by Rubin Farr

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Guest Jimmy McMessageboard

Saw it last night. Some issues I had:

 

 

- how old is idris elba? he saves the young girl and now shes all grown up and he still looks about 35.

- edited so fast paced in the fight scenes I couldnt always tell what was going on.

- did they really try and elbow a romance in right at the end? with no build up? did they?

- did anyone think the wall would work?

- why did they get an english guy to be australian (he was in eastenders)? and 2 english guys to play americans. and don't get me started on the english character

 

but even with that said I still enjoyed the shit out of it.

Edited by Jimmy McMessageboard
  On 7/12/2013 at 5:45 PM, Rubin Farr said:

how do both pilots eject from beneath the surface of the ocean, and don't immediately die of the bends when they surface?

haven't seen the film, but isn't the bends from breathing the nitrogen laced air mixture from a scuba tank? I'm sure whatever happened in the movie isn't physically possible but I didn't realize you could get the bends from just surfacing too fast by itself.

Guest jasondonervan

Asked if I want to go and see it this afternoon... kinda begrudge the extortionate cinema prices though, especially for a 3D showing. Should I just stay at home with just re-stocked beer supply and new non-rephlex-but-actually-rephlex arrivals instead?

  On 7/12/2013 at 7:39 PM, Jimmy McMessageboard said:

Saw it last night. Some issues I had:

 

 

- how old is idris elba? he saves the young girl and now shes all grown up and he still looks about 35.

- edited so fast paced in the fight scenes I couldnt always tell what was going on.

- did they really try and elbow a romance in right at the end? with no build up? did they?

- did anyone think the wall would work?

- why did they get an english guy to be australian (he was in eastenders)? and 2 english guys to play americans. and don't get me started on the english character

 

but even with that said I still enjoyed the shit out of it.

 

re: fast paced fight scenes: most of it was OK but I was lost sometimes. I suspect it might be easier to understand in 2D.

 

re: Romance at the end: I thought that was good - they obviously had 'a connection', and its hinted at all through the film, but for once a romance is not the centrepiece of an action film. I dont think they even kiss?

 

re: The Wall: its hinted at in various news clips in the film that all the rich/rulers have moved 300 miles inland, and all the poor people still living on the coast (the world economy is wrecked) are left building pointless walls that obviously aren't going to work.

 

I saw it in 3D, its pretty good. About 45 minutes of actual robot ass-kicking, which is very good, the rest is fairly competently done set-up of the world and characters.

 

To really enjoy watching a monster get punched in the face, you've got to care about the pilots, understand the personal challenges they are facing, understand the perils of what might happen if the monster doesn't get punched in the face enough, understand the desperate situation everyone else is in, and so on. And all of that takes time to set up.

 

3D was mostly OK but I'm wondering if 2D might be better to really follow the action.

Edited by zazen
  On 7/13/2013 at 11:39 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

 

  On 7/12/2013 at 5:45 PM, Rubin Farr said:

how do both pilots eject from beneath the surface of the ocean, and don't immediately die of the bends when they surface?

haven't seen the film, but isn't the bends from breathing the nitrogen laced air mixture from a scuba tank? I'm sure whatever happened in the movie isn't physically possible but I didn't realize you could get the bends from just surfacing too fast by itself.

 

 

I thought the bends was too rapid of a transition between spaces of different pressure. For instance, deep sea cod get the bends in reverse when they are fished out of the ocean, causing them to sometimes flip inside out/make their stomachs come out of their mouths etc.

through the years, a man peoples a space with images of provinces, kingdoms, mountains, bays, ships, islands, fishes, rooms, tools, stars, horses and people. shortly before his death, he discovers that the patient labyrinth of lines traces the image of his own face.

  On 7/14/2013 at 12:32 AM, thanks robert moses said:

 

  On 7/13/2013 at 11:39 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

 

  On 7/12/2013 at 5:45 PM, Rubin Farr said:

how do both pilots eject from beneath the surface of the ocean, and don't immediately die of the bends when they surface?

haven't seen the film, but isn't the bends from breathing the nitrogen laced air mixture from a scuba tank? I'm sure whatever happened in the movie isn't physically possible but I didn't realize you could get the bends from just surfacing too fast by itself.

 

 

I thought the bends was too rapid of a transition between spaces of different pressure. For instance, deep sea cod get the bends in reverse when they are fished out of the ocean, causing them to sometimes flip inside out/make their stomachs come out of their mouths etc.

 

yeah i was talking out of my ass, I was confusing the bends with nitrogen narcosis which happens when you dive beyond 100 ft with a scuba tank. If you free dive though you are less likely to get the bends when the pressure changes when resurfacing.

Edited by John Ehrlichman
  On 7/12/2013 at 7:39 PM, Jimmy McMessageboard said:

- why did they get an english guy to be australian (he was in eastenders)? and 2 english guys to play americans. and don't get me started on the english character

 

 

Idris Elbas character is actually meant to be British, and he uses a London accent for most of the film. But they dont really spell it out.

If you over think this one and hate on it for reasons you should reserve for films that are trying to be anything but an action Monster vs Robots film, then you should rethink why you would waste your/our time. This is the summer blockbuster archetype realized. It has some of the best cgi work ever put on film. Robots decimating bad ass scary monsters, along with a much better representation of cities being destroyed than as seen in Men of Steele, the Danielle Steele story. enterfuckingtainment!!!!!

  On 7/14/2013 at 12:37 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

 

  On 7/14/2013 at 12:32 AM, thanks robert moses said:

 

 

  On 7/13/2013 at 11:39 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

 

 

  On 7/12/2013 at 5:45 PM, Rubin Farr said:

 

how do both pilots eject from beneath the surface of the ocean, and don't immediately die of the bends when they surface?

haven't seen the film, but isn't the bends from breathing the nitrogen laced air mixture from a scuba tank? I'm sure whatever happened in the movie isn't physically possible but I didn't realize you could get the bends from just surfacing too fast by itself.

I thought the bends was too rapid of a transition between spaces of different pressure. For instance, deep sea cod get the bends in reverse when they are fished out of the ocean, causing them to sometimes flip inside out/make their stomachs come out of their mouths etc.

yeah i was talking out of my ass, I was confusing the bends with nitrogen narcosis which happens when you dive beyond 100 ft with a scuba tank. If you free dive though you are less likely to get the bends when the pressure changes when resurfacing.
I'm not a diver, but using movie logic I remember at the end of The Abyss, they rapidly surfaced after weeks of being in a pressurized vessel, and Ed Harris said they should be dead from the bends. I know they weren't in the suits for that long, but this was even deeper, being below the ocean floor so wtf.

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  On 7/14/2013 at 9:28 PM, Rubin Farr said:

 

  On 7/14/2013 at 12:37 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

 

  On 7/14/2013 at 12:32 AM, thanks robert moses said:

 

  On 7/13/2013 at 11:39 AM, John Ehrlichman said:

 

  On 7/12/2013 at 5:45 PM, Rubin Farr said:

how do both pilots eject from beneath the surface of the ocean, and don't immediately die of the bends when they surface?

haven't seen the film, but isn't the bends from breathing the nitrogen laced air mixture from a scuba tank? I'm sure whatever happened in the movie isn't physically possible but I didn't realize you could get the bends from just surfacing too fast by itself.

I thought the bends was too rapid of a transition between spaces of different pressure. For instance, deep sea cod get the bends in reverse when they are fished out of the ocean, causing them to sometimes flip inside out/make their stomachs come out of their mouths etc.

yeah i was talking out of my ass, I was confusing the bends with nitrogen narcosis which happens when you dive beyond 100 ft with a scuba tank. If you free dive though you are less likely to get the bends when the pressure changes when resurfacing.
I'm not a diver, but using movie logic I remember at the end of The Abyss, they rapidly surfaced after weeks of being in a pressurized vessel, and Ed Harris said they should be dead from the bends. I know they weren't in the suits for that long, but this was even deeper, being below the ocean floor so wtf.

 

 

Guys, its a movie about monsters from another dimension. You're just supposed to enjoy the ride.

 

e.g. OK the writers could have made up some shit like:

  • Physiological effects of 'drifting' offset the bends
  • or ... they actually came back through another dimension via the tunnel, not just the deep sea, so you could make up some shit about that making a difference.

So if they had had a scene where someone (maybe one of the guys back at the base) explained to the audience (via the pretense of explaining to someone else in movie) that they wouldn't get the bends because of X or Y or whatever ... then you would have been happier? If so, you're watching this film in the wrong way. Giant robots couldn't move that fast without flying to pieces. Giant monsters couldn't move that fast. Trans dimensional bridges dont exist. etc. etc. etc.

don't you get 2 high baby

  On 2/26/2015 at 9:39 AM, RupturedSouls said:

This drugs makes me feel like I'm on song!

  On 9/1/2014 at 5:50 PM, StephenG said:

I'm hardly a closed minded nun. Remember, I'm on a fucking IDM forum.... an IDM forum.. Think about that for a second before claiming people are closed minded nuns.

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