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Thank christ it finally lets you export directly to soundcloud. They are listening to the pros.

 

I am happy about track stacks and a potentially improved arrange window, although they were pretty light on the specifics.

 

Going to take the plunge this evening, will report!

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like to know how flex pitch measures up against the new ableton and melodyne. that's one of the few tools that I still really need

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meh. I'll stick with reaper. I'm curious what all they fixed though.

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  On 7/16/2013 at 5:33 PM, cult fiction said:

You might try contacting Apple. They have always had cheap/free upgrade path in the past for new buyers of a previous version.

Also, given Apple's history of royally fucking up the first release of pro products, you might be glad you have Logic 9.

 

That's the thing. I don't want Logic X until someone proves to me that all my plugins will work in X and that it's better than 9.

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I bought Logic 9 like four days ago and after dealing with support lines for a while just now I managed to get a full refund to pay for X. They told me that you can't get a direct upgrade; you have to ask for a refund thru the Mac App Store support. They said it was like a ToS exception that they were willing to make only once for an account.

 

Just so it's known

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there is no upgrade path from 9 to 10? :p


kind of shitty considering that most software companies offer a free or price-difference upgrade if you bought an obsolete version within a certain time frame of the newer release.

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For people who are already quite content with Logic 9, what's the best reason to upgrade? Final Cut X already has such a bad reputation among professionals who relied on Final Cut that the fact it's called Logic Pro X makes me pretty hesitant

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  On 7/16/2013 at 11:59 PM, John Ehrlichman said:

For people who are already quite content with Logic 9, what's the best reason to upgrade? Final Cut X already has such a bad reputation among professionals who relied on Final Cut that the fact it's called Logic Pro X makes me pretty hesitant

Probably the arpeggiator as an actual effect unit and the pitch flex tool. Other than that, not much else apart from a shiny new look. It can only handle 64bit plugins too, so not sure where it stands with 32bit plugins.

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  On 7/17/2013 at 12:02 AM, lawrenke said:

 

  On 7/16/2013 at 11:59 PM, John Ehrlichman said:

For people who are already quite content with Logic 9, what's the best reason to upgrade? Final Cut X already has such a bad reputation among professionals who relied on Final Cut that the fact it's called Logic Pro X makes me pretty hesitant

Probably the arpeggiator as an actual effect unit and the pitch flex tool. Other than that, not much else apart from a shiny new look. It can only handle 64bit plugins too, so not sure where it stands with 32bit plugins.

 

what exactly is different about the flex pitch tool now? It seems the same as in version 9 from the apple website

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The new look is actually pretty nice. I know it seems petty, but if I hate working in an environment that looks disorganized, and how a DAW is designed can help this a lot. I've always thought that this is where Apple's strength lies; user-friendliness and organized design.

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  On 7/17/2013 at 12:08 AM, oscillik said:

 

  On 7/17/2013 at 12:02 AM, lawrenke said:

It can only handle 64bit plugins too

Reaper wins

 

 

Just... don't...

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Initial impressions...

 

The new interface is a mixed bag.

 

The awesome: Step editor for midi parameters, vastly improved hyper draw(now called MIDI draw). Setting up FX chains is a lot easier, you don't have to hold down command to drag them around any more.

 

The good: better layout of the high-level pieces with Xcode style toggles to switch between them. A lot of bizarro UI quirks have been fixed, like hitting command-W actually closes the active AU controls instead of the project. You can view the entire track's worth of regions in the region editor now instead of just 1.

 

The bad: It takes up much more screen real estate than before, I had to switch my retina macbook's resolution to the highest scaled setting to see even 80% of what I used to be able to. Some UI elements have not gotten any love whatsoever, like the awful region/track property sheets where you set flex time and quantization settings.

 

The fucking awful: Somebody forgot to tell the Logic team that skeuomorphic design is out, so they introduced FUCKING TERRIBLE new faders that look like real faders, and are worse in every way than the old ones.

 

The projects can now be stored in packages, which seems pretty useless but if you really want a fake folder to hide all of your files, feel free. It does come with a nice option to consolidate all of your audio date/esx24 instruments/etc. into the package when you convert a Logic 9 package.

 

No 32-bit support - I only had 1 plug-in I was still actively using that was 32-bit, but I just looked and there is a 64-bit version now I downloaded that.

 

The new instruments seem worthless - retro synth is pretty mediocre and the drum designer thing is lol-worthy.

 

Haven't really checked out the other new features like flex pitch/etc., but overall I'm very satisfied with the editor improvements - they will be a major time saver.

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  On 7/17/2013 at 5:30 PM, cult fiction said:

The fucking awful: Somebody forgot to tell the Logic team that skeuomorphic design is out, so they introduced FUCKING TERRIBLE new faders that look like real faders, and are worse in every way than the old ones.

 

Can you elaborate on that a bit? What exactly have they done to them?

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  On 7/17/2013 at 2:55 AM, Ascdi said:

I wonder how the varispeed is. Insane that most DAWs have no good varispeed.

I've just looked up what that is. Isn't that just changing the BPM of the whole track, like what almost all DAWs allow you to do ?!

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